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God TV

  • 27-08-2009 2:56pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 290 ✭✭


    Has anyone here sat down and watched this muck? Amazing to look at I must say, run by Rory and Wendy Alec, once summed up as the Richard and Judy of the Christian world. In between shows of them asking for 'Donations' to become a God TV 'Angel' is Evangelists preaching on wickedness and spouting homophobic filth.

    'I saved two teenagers from the wickedness of homosexual acts through the power of Jesus' is a stock line from most of them, me and my friend who is gay sat there stunned.

    Also throw in some christian rock with scenes of young people crying and touching the sky leads to a quite surreal viewing experience.

    Whats your views on it, also love to hear from christians on the topic of this money making, hate filled speech that is to be found on every sat box around.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Meh it's TV like, since when does TV = 'real life'?
    TV personalities and TV people (in general) == false,false,false
    Also, did you actually watch something just so you could sit down and complain about it???:P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,969 ✭✭✭robby^5


    It's a combination of two very stupid ideas, what did you expect?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,848 ✭✭✭✭Zombrex


    robby^5 wrote: »
    It's a combination of two very stupid ideas, what did you expect?

    :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    There used to be a second god channel, amusingly called 'God 2'. It's gone now though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    aidan24326 wrote: »
    There used to be a second god channel, amusingly called 'God 2'. It's gone now though.

    Yeah, they disbanded it after accusations of polytheism.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Nick_oliveri


    Awesome footage i watched while entertaining the notion of religious TV one night.




    and more...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,555 ✭✭✭antiskeptic


    Hardrain wrote: »
    Whats your views on it, also love to hear from christians on the topic of this money making, hate filled speech that is to be found on every sat box around.

    Although I don't see anything wrong with seeking donations for whatever your particular cause happens to be, nor anything necessarily wrong with expressing the view that homosexual acts are sinful, I can't say that I see the God channels as accurately expressing the Christian viewpoint - as earlier expressed by eg: Christ or Paul.

    In the main, they appear to range from the downright charlatan (that 'prayer hanky' bloke and Benny Hinn for example) to the doctrinally challenged (the health, wealth & prosperity brigade.)

    I'm sure Jesus would turn in his grave - were it the case that he occupied one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 290 ✭✭Hardrain


    I find it quite distasteful that in this day and age people still spout homophobic hate filled rants.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Watching those videos posted. I think I neeed reminding on what Christianity's take on materialism is..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Jeez, those videos are TERRIFYING...

    Hardain I retract what I said about it just being TV. If people are following this shyte then that's downright disgraceful preying on the weak :

    It seems like nothing more than some sort of elaborate pyramid scheme to me.
    That's assuming the mystery cheques are being sent out by the evangelicals if not it's much much much worse as some people aren't getting any money at all!:(

    EDIT : HOW THE FCUK CAN YOU HAVE BLOOD PRESSURE ABOVE 500?? Are Americana's unets defferent?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 290 ✭✭Hardrain


    I have to take my hat off to this Alec husband and wife. They have created a money making hit. Send us money to become a God Tv 'Angel' the sheer cheek of it has to be applauded!!

    interesting article about this muck
    All sorts of junk ends up orbiting the planet nowadays, especially TV rubbish, gone to the satellite Spirit in the Sky. The Peripatetic Lobster, Judith Chalmers, still bestrides ten-year-old holiday programmes like an orange Colossus, while the ghastly Paul Ross fronts all manner of long-cancelled game shows, thereby demonstrating that he hasn't lost his Midas touch (everything he touches turns to UK Gold). But for digital trash of the very highest grade, look no further than the two stations emanating from God TV: The God Channel (Sky 671) and God Revival (672).



    Don't be fooled into thinking that these twin stations are nothing more than harmless and irrelevant nonsense for the bewildered. Founded by Rory and Wendy Alec, both channels broadcast hour upon hour of hate-filled, rabble-rousing, homophobic bigotry, much of it featuring (and funded by) right-wing American evangelists. Before the ITC lost its few remaining teeth, it roundly condemned The God Channel for its denigration of other beliefs, and fined it £20,000 for its denunciations of homosexuality as an abomination.


    But nowadays, it is allowed to broadcast without official reproach, while its sister channel, God Revival, preaches explicitly about God's prophetic agenda for Israel, and its plans to reposition the European Church to enable it to fulfil its significant end-time role in Europe and the Middle East. A few minutes spent listening to some of these US preachers (whose influence on the Republican Party is as profound as their theology is shallow) gives a sobering insight into the mindset that is currently determining American foreign policy.


    I'm no theologian (unless you count those four years I spent as Archbishop of Canterbury), but I suspect that Jehovah would claim that He was being misquoted if He ever tuned into Friday Night Live on the God Channel. "We welcome you in the precious name of our risen Lord Cheeses", said our hosts, Rory and Wendy, when I watched recently (why do overseas evangellybabies place such a ludicrous over-emphasis on the first syllable of the Saviour's name?), but although they look like a sanctimonious parody of the King and Queen of Stupid Vision (aka Richard and Judy), they're actually even more sinister.



    You see, this oleaginous and thoroughly dubious couple realised several years ago that there was an awful lot of dosh to be made by bringing US-style televangelism to Europe, and negotiated an exclusive deal with the Almighty (Murdoch), who now broadcasts their twin wall-to-wall Sky Gods. All of which makes them a couple of very Smart Alecs indeed.
    Rory introduced us to two of the biggest stars in the UK: "You guys became a phenomena [sic] throughout the UK ... you were a phenomena", and lo, there were Cannon and Ball, telling us solemnly that Jesus died for us (much as they used to die every night during the 70s and 80s, back in the era when this double act with two straight men regularly disgraced our screens).



    It appears that they are now full of God, having both caught Harry Secombe disease and turned to the Lord to revitalise their moribund careers (a miracle beyond even His awesome powers, I fear). There are very few Christian comedians declared Tommybobby sagely, while Bobbytommy nodded conspiratorially, and suddenly I surmised what must have happened. After a long dark night of the soul (or perhaps an unexpected income tax demand), they'd decided for professional reasons to have a mutual Road to Damascus experience.




    There was genuine comedy, however, when a Christian rock band appeared. They're always good for a laugh, because we all know about the wondrous connection between third-rate rock musicians and Christianity. If you've failed in the real rock world, why not turn to Jesus to prop up your flagging career? Learn to love the Lord and he'll reward you with bookings galore on the Christian Festival circuit, where you won't need to be talented, just devout.
    Elsewhere, on both stations, the material mainly comes from the US, and features such shadowy luminaries as Morris Cerullo, Benny Hinn, and the exquisitely-named Dr Creflo Dollar, often at rallies where the blind are made to see, and the lame to walk.



    While claiming to be praying for the sick, they're really preying on them, and the only genuine miracle I ever witness at their huge televised public gatherings is the unerring ability of the preachers to extract thousands of dollars (and now, sadly, euros) from very poor people. It' s what they call sowing a seed for Jesus, and what we sceptics call the miracle of the credit card donation. As the fleecing gets underway, they remind their flocks to make sure to put down their expiration date, which seems odd. Because surely your expiration date is something only the Lord can truly know?


    Not long ago, I sat through an hour-long rant from a hysterical minister, whose sermon was so full of bigotry and hate that I half-expected the supporting Christian rock group to be called Ku Klux Klannad. I was so perturbed that I phoned the station afterwards, to ask why the God Digital moves in such mysterious ways, but Rory and Alec were unavailable, and the second-in-command refused even to talk about the ITC codes. So what could I do, except embark on my usual dray about religion having caused most of the ills throughout the history of this unlucky planet, and announce that I am currently suing God under the Trade Descriptions Act on the grounds that, as a very meek person, I should by now have inherited the Earth, yet I still haven't been offered as much as Majorca, or even a slice of Basildon. The man hurled innumerable insults at me, then slammed the phone down. So much for gentle Cheeses, meek and mild. Aren't Christians supposed to turn the other cheek, not give a load of it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭all the stars


    Malty_T wrote: »
    Meh it's TV like, since when does TV = 'real life'?
    TV personalities and TV people (in general) == false,false,false

    Very true,
    I did watch a documentary last year i think based in America (of course) Where it was this gigantic big Men only religious circus for want of a better word...
    Rocking out on stage - and lots of give us money speech.. and hateful spouting about gays and went into womans place..
    :rolleyes:

    Seriously though - did anyone else see it? It was astounding to watch their ceremony....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭Húrin


    In the main, they appear to range from the downright charlatan (that 'prayer hanky' bloke and Benny Hinn for example) to the doctrinally challenged (the health, wealth & prosperity brigade.)

    It's just plain folk superstition (as opposed to scriptural faith), and these examples serve to show that Protestants are as vulnerable to that as any group.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,555 ✭✭✭antiskeptic


    Húrin wrote: »
    It's just plain folk superstition (as opposed to scriptural faith), and these examples serve to show that Protestants are as vulnerable to that as any group.


    Though inclined to agree I do wonder whether America is to Christianity now what Catholic Ireland was to Christianity then (ie: cultural Christianity and not Christianity in fact). In which case it wouldn't be Protestantism that's vunerable but folk who identify as Protestant. That said, my mam is a Christian who reckons Benny Hinn is okay...

    The non-US God tv doesn't appear anything like as bad as the US stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭Tyler MacDurden


    I'm not sure what way the god-channels are arranged on other platforms, but on Sky they're wedged in between the Documentaries and Children's programming. If it was later and I was feeling paranoid I might elaborate on the theme of religion as a buffer betwixt knowledge and innocence, but I'm neither drunk nor tired enough.

    Anyhow, for your delectation, here's South Park's angle on god-telly:

    Deflector Shields Falling!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,686 ✭✭✭✭PDN


    I generally don't post in this forum anymore, but I couldn't pass up on this one.

    In the early days of Sky TV (before digital) the channels that paid less sometimes had to share the same channel number - 8 hours for one, then the next 8 hours for another etc. on a daytime, evening and night basis.

    Some bright spark put the God Channel (as it was known then) sharing a channel with Playboy TV. I wonder how many old grannies fell asleep watching Benny Hinn and woke up to find Ron Jeremy on their screens.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    PDN wrote: »
    I generally don't post in this forum anymore, but I couldn't pass up on this one.

    In the early days of Sky TV (before digital) the channels that paid less sometimes had to share the same channel number - 8 hours for one, then the next 8 hours for another etc. on a daytime, evening and night basis.

    Some bright spark put the God Channel (as it was known then) sharing a channel with Playboy TV. I wonder how many old grannies fell asleep watching Benny Hinn and woke up to find Ron Jeremy on their screens.

    "And then the lord said, suffer those who come onto me" *BUZZ* "come onto me like the dirty little skank that I am"


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