Would you cross a Picket Line ?

WIZE

I was listening to the FM104 phone show last night and they were talking about the security staff who went an official strike on Tuesday night at Tomangoes at The White Sand Hotel Portmarnock.
The DJ who has being DJing their of over 28years did not cross the Picket line which ment they did not have a DJ .
The consequence of his actions was the managers not renewing his contract .
This leads me to ask ''Would you cross a Picket Line at work or anywhere else that there was an official Strike?

funk-you

BVB wrote: »

I was listening to the FM104 phone show last night and they were talking about the security staff who went an official strike on Tuesday night at Tomangoes at The White Sand Hotel Portmarnock.
The DJ who has being DJing their of over 28years did not cross the Picket line which ment they did not have a DJ .
The consequence of his actions was the managers not renewing his contract .
This leads me to ask ''Would you cross a Picket Line at work or anywhere else that there was an official Strike?

If I agreed with the people who were picketing - No.

If I thought they were unreasonable, lazy union bastards with no idea of how the real world works - Yes.

-Funk

Biggins

funk-you wrote: »

If I agreed with the people who were picketing - No.

If I thought they were unreasonable, lazy union bastards with no idea of how the real world works - Yes.

-Funk

Good surmised answer. Same would apply for myself.
If I felt there/they had a genuine case, no, I'd not cross.

WIZE

But does the Hotel have the right to fire the DJ after 28 years service to the Hotel

Biggins

BVB wrote: »

But does the Hotel have the right to fire the DJ after 28 years service to the Hotel

If the security strike was unofficial and subsequently illegal, then the DJ was not sticking to the terms of his contract to play a specified number of times within a set period.
They would indeed have a strong case to legally let him go.

But as the strike was legal - that's a different case. There might be cause of action on the DJ's part for redress.

Riskymove

BVB wrote: »

But does the Hotel have the right to fire the DJ after 28 years service to the Hotel

if he is on a contract its quite simple, you dont renew it

firing himfor his action would mean him having a case


on the topic, I wouldn't cross a picket placed by people doing same work as me

if it was others, it would depend on the situation

Gillo

For me it depends on the reason for the picket some I will pass and some I won't. What really annoy's me though is people telling you you can't, I was walking by a store a while ago and looked in the window, there was a group of picketer's outside and one of then pretty aggressivly told me I couldn't cross the line. I'd on intention me actually going in but after that I went in and bought a load of stuff just to make a point that I could.

IvySlayer

BVB wrote: »

But does the Hotel have the right to fire the DJ after 28 years service to the Hotel

Of course they do!

He didn't turn up for work and had no medical excuse, therefore, he got fired. Nor was he on official strike sanctioned by his union.

The staff moaning can go and **** off. They should keep their noses out of management decisions.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

IvySlayer wrote: »

Of course they do!

He didn't turn up for work and had no medical excuse, therefore, he got fired. Nor was he on official strike sanctioned by his union.

The staff moaning can go and **** off. They should keep their noses out of management decisions.

Think that would only get you a warning, not a firing. Unless he's done it before and been warned of course.

hands up who's never taken a "sickie" in his life?

General Zod

IvySlayer wrote: »

Of course they do!

He didn't turn up for work and had no medical excuse, therefore, he got fired. Nor was he on official strike sanctioned by his union.

The staff moaning can go and **** off. They should keep their noses out of management decisions.

Even when the decisions of the managem,ent directly affect their economic and personal welfare and safety?

Tomango's, where the William Martin Murphy Gang goes.

IvySlayer

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Think that would only get you a warning, not a firing. Unless he's done it before and been warned of course.

hands up who's never taken a "sickie" in his life?

How much business do you think they would have lost?

We've all done it :P

In All Fairness

What's important here is the DJ's actions. I would never cross a picket line myself, but I have also been fortunate in having employers who never needed a union. I don't think I would have the courage that that DJ has. He is a true follower of James Connolly. To risk your own job in solidarity with those less well off is a noble gesture. But to do it, knowing the game you're in, that you have the securest job in DJing (along with the resident in Club 92) that you probably won't get a gig anywhere else, is extraordinary imho.

Btw Tomangoes where the gang goes. Radio Duudlin 253.Ohh 253.

IvySlayer

General Zod wrote: »

Even when the decisions of the managem,ent directly affect their economic and personal welfare and safety?

Tomango's, where the William Martin Murphy Gang goes.

They don't like it, they can quit. No-one is forcing them to work there.

I imagine the nightclub is not breaking any laws when it comes to safety and pay.

And the funny thing about that particular phoneshow topic, no offical rep from the strikers came on air. Afraid of the sack?

amacachi

My answer wouldn't have anything to do with agreeing with a strike or not. If there had been a vote by a union I was part of to go on strike then I would obey that vote. If it's another union it's not my problem.

Caoimhín

Sure would, damn Communists.

stovelid

Nope.

maggy_thatcher

I wouldn't cross the picket if all these conditions are true:

1. It was a union I was a member of (though I'm very unlikely to join one)
2. I was satisfied that all other avenues of resolving the solution were attempted before jumping to the "strike" option
3. A legitimate vote was taken for the strike - at least 80% of members were given voting cards (and had adequate time to return them); at least 50% of those vote for strike.
4. It was an official strike, with the legal amount of notice provided.
5. I was employed by the organisation that is striking (i.e. say I was a member of SIPTU, and they were crying about something in the airport; I wouldn't feel compelled to support them.).

If any of these conditions fail, then I'd cross the picket.

hidinginthebush

The security sataff in toamngoes are pricks

renraw

No chance I'd ever cross a picket line. The protestors are there for a reason

anniehoo

The head bouncer there earns something like €85/hr (thats his part time job), averaging over the 6 bouncers that went on strike it works out at €40+/hr each. They can go and whistle...id be crossing and dancing on their picket line.

General Zod

IvySlayer wrote: »

They don't like it, they can quit. No-one is forcing them to work there.

so you have no issue with Employer exploitation?

General Zod

anniehoo wrote: »

The head bouncer there earns something like €85/hr (thats his part time job), averaging over the 6 bouncers that went on strike it works out at €40+/hr each. They can go and whistle...id be crossing and dancing on their picket line.

citation needed.

iregk

I would have no problem passing the picket line if I thought all avenues of resolving the situation had not been explorerd or if I didn't agree with the reasoning for the strike.

jum4

I would,

Unions along with striking should be made illegal.

If you don't like your pay/work conditions, find another job.
simple

my opinion

connundrum

General Zod wrote: »

citation needed.

Citation for what?

narwog81

BVB wrote: »

The DJ who has being DJing their of over 28years did not cross the Picket line which ment they did not have a DJ .
The consequence of his actions was the managers not renewing his contract .

ouch, maybe they never liked him anyway?:D

anniehoo

General Zod wrote: »

citation needed.

The general manager was interviewed for the 6pm news on Q102 yesterday...i can only go by what she said.

General Zod

anniehoo wrote: »

The general manager was interviewed for the 6pm news on Q102 yesterday...i can only go by what she said.

thanks, I didn't hear the interview.

General Zod

jum4 wrote: »

I would,

Unions along with striking should be made illegal.

If you don't like your pay/work conditions, find another job.
simple

my opinion

Welcome to a race to the bottom pay scale.