Lets discuss the Big Slow in here!

Rjd2

I have grown to dislike this man since his return last year and I shall explain why...
The stuff he done with Mayweather was pretty harmless but since then he has nothing of any worth. He floated around on SD squashing jobbers on a weekly basis and then had a horrendous feud with Khali which resulted in some horrid matches.

Now still I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt as Khali is such a dire worker but after that everything he has done has been dreadful. His matches with Taker and Cena two of the best carriers in the business were horrendous and done nothing for either Taker or Cena and now he is dragging down Jericho in this tag team they have.

He also gae Edge his worst match in years before Mania on Raw and him sqashing Bourne and Kofi was depressing to view.

I dunno am I the only one not to love Paul Wright these days?
Oh and his contribution on the Rise and fall of WCW? **** right of.

DM_7

Rjd2 wrote: »

I have grown to dislike this man since his return last year and I shall explain why...
The stuff he done with Mayweather was pretty harmless but since then he has nothing of any worth. He floated around on SD squashing jobbers on a weekly basis and then had a horrendous feud with Khali which resulted in some horrid matches.

Now still I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt as Khali is such a dire worker but after that everything he has done has been dreadful. His matches with Taker and Cena two of the best carriers in the business were horrendous and done nothing for either Taker or Cena and now he is dragging down Jericho in this tag team they have.

He also gae Edge his worst match in years before Mania on Raw and him sqashing Bourne and Kofi was depressing to view.

I dunno am I the only one not to love Paul Wright these days?
Oh and his contribution on the Rise and fall of WCW? **** right of.

No your not the only one.

I don't get the big show. He left and I didn't miss him. He came back and I wished he stayed away.

His matches are awful.

I get the idea of a big guy with Jericho, but they could easily have used Kane in that role as at least he can have a half decent match or a bruiser like Big Zeke.

In fairness to show he can be good on the mic when having some fun but its not enough.

Very few people make me want to switch off wrestling (Like that annoying over acting interviewer from TNA), but Big Show makes me fast forward through it weekly.

rossie1977

he has been pretty horrible since his return alrite, i still watch some of his wcw stuff circa 1995-96 from time-to-time and its hard to believe its the same person, its clear that like andre (a fellow sufferer of acromelagy) before him that his body is breaking down the closer he gets to 40

i think the fact that he now moves in total slow motion makes his matches seem so much worse too, he is dangerously obese, frightening to see how much fatter he was compared to 25 stone shaq a few weeks ago, shaq himself is often ridiculed for being too fat :eek:

SlickRic

he's such a waste now.

when he first came in way back when, he felt legitimate. it might have been more to do with the likes of Rock, Austin and Angle getting the best out of him promo-wise and match-wise, but there was a time when, as i say, he was a legitimate reason to watch.

even his Lesnar/Heyman run was pretty watchable.

i honestly can't put my finger on what went wrong. laziness? weight gain? no Austin, Rock, Angle, Lesnar, etc?

so much potential, yet, he just doesn't allow me to care.

flahavaj

The biggest waste of potential of the last 20 years IMO. When this guy arrived on the scene he was phenomenal, he could hit drop kicks and even moonsaults. He was physically imposing but could actually get around the ring at a decent speed.

Fast forward to 2009 and you have guy who between a combination of terrible booking and letting himself deteriorate quite horribly physically has become more of a stale lame duck than an asset.

What hurt Show more than anything was WWE's insistence on booking him as just another guy. A win over Big Show is looked on as nothing special whatsoever anymore. He should have been booked invincibly for the entirity of his career. No one should ever ever have pinned him under any circumstance. Thus, when it eventually happened a la Hogan/Andre it meant something special as a moment that could springboard a Cena or and Orton in the status of superhero. I would have also booked him as a special attraction. I'd have limited his in ring appearances to once every few months. Make it feel like people were seeing something special each and every time he stepped in the ring. Theres the added advantage of this meaning he wouldn't necessaruily have to beat everyone on the roster week in week out and make them all look like chumps, but rather he could just work squashes on a limited basis. A guy of his size needs not to be working a full schedule as it surely must play havoc with his joints. Maybe then he could keep up with his cardio and not look like a tub of lard.

Bounty Hunter

Although it annoys me when i see people people say that he should be better cos he was in WCW (That was a decade ago! hes not young anymore), that being said he has let himself go and I have to agree with everone here, Big Show is a waste of space atm.

The thing that sums up how bad he has gotten for me is that despite me being a really big Jericho fan I have absolutely no interest at all when their tag team comes on the screen atm.

krudler

Biggest waste of space alongside Mark Henry right now, talk about a heat killing, crowd sapping wrestler, as soon as I hear his music I switch off, the ultimate example of a wrestler coasting along due to downside guarantees since the likes of Hogan and Nash

Jolt2007

krudler wrote: »

Biggest waste of space alongside Mark Henry right now, talk about a heat killing, crowd sapping wrestler, as soon as I hear his music I switch off, the ultimate example of a wrestler coasting along due to downside guarantees since the likes of Hogan and Nash

Hey hey hey!! Attacking Show is one thing (valid and deserved even) but my mind boggles that you mention Mark Henry along the same lines. He's single handedly kept Raw alive. The only bright spot each week is him in his bright red outfit and brighter smile.

Apologies for the off topic. As for Show, flahavaj sums it up pretty much spot on.

Degag

Have to agree with Henry... They're booking him well and pushing him pretty hard but he's putting some effort into it too. Everyone knows he's not going to be the best technical wrestler on the roster by any stretch of the imagination but he's really trying to do his best and get over.

Show, on the other hand hasn't done much. I blame this alot more on Creative than him though. However, he has to shoulder some of it. He worked a great match with Mayweather last year ( considering the circumstances) and could really have built on that BIG TIME but didn't... since then, he's returned to the doldrums.

krudler

Degag wrote: »

Have to agree with Henry... They're booking him well and pushing him pretty hard but he's putting some effort into it too. Everyone knows he's not going to be the best technical wrestler on the roster by any stretch of the imagination but he's really trying to do his best and get over.

It'd be the first time in what, 13 years with the company that he would be over in fairness

Otis Driftwood

He's fat and he sucks.

The only time I ever enjoyed watching him is when he was doing his parodies a number of years ago on Smackdown - Hogan,Fat Bastard etc.He is actually pretty good on the mic.Now he is just an embarrassment.

Lol at the time he called Kaienti a couple of Gooks and tried to say it was goofs he called em.

JP Liz

Teaming him with Jericho as a tag champ is not helping him at all

I think he would be better in ECW

Penn

JP Liz wrote: »

Teaming him with Jericho as a tag champ is not helping him at all

I think he would be better in ECW

I do wonder what would have happened to him if Edge hadn't injured himself. He had been floating round the US title which is just a huge mistake, unless he was going to put Bourne or Kingston over big time

davrho

A bit harsh.
I dont think Show has ever been the most accomplished wrestler(under statement, i know) but he is in wwe as an attraction. His size sells. He is not there for his technical prowess but as someone the crowd will react to no matter what. I was at the Midday Madness(a signing and photo session at wm every year on the saturday) in Orlando and everyone at the session was delighted big show was one of the main attractions.

No one had problems with Andre the Giant being fat and slow when he got on a bit. I dont think anyone here lives the everyday problems of being ,more or less, a giant and the personal problems that it brings .

I would be more worried about the staleness in the title picture and main events than one of the attraction wrestlers lack of talent.

Diabhal Beag

davrho wrote: »

A bit harsh.
I dont think Show has ever been the most accomplished wrestler(under statement, i know) but he is in wwe as an attraction. His size sells. He is not there for his technical prowess but as someone the crowd will react to no matter what. I was at the Midday Madness(a signing and photo session at wm every year on the saturday) in Orlando and everyone at the session was delighted big show was one of the main attractions.

No one had problems with Andre the Giant being fat and slow when he got on a bit. I dont think anyone here lives the everyday problems of being ,more or less, a giant and the personal problems that it brings .

I would be more worried about the staleness in the title picture and main events than one of the attraction wrestlers lack of talent.

I agree with all of this. The strains on his knees and joints are a daily thing and that's why he has to take these breaks off the road. It's not Big Shows problem that for the next decade it will be a Orton-Cena-HHH-Batista main event picture.

michael.etc...

davrho wrote: »

A bit harsh.
I dont think Show has ever been the most accomplished wrestler(under statement, i know) but he is in wwe as an attraction. His size sells. He is not there for his technical prowess but as someone the crowd will react to no matter what. I was at the Midday Madness(a signing and photo session at wm every year on the saturday) in Orlando and everyone at the session was delighted big show was one of the main attractions.

No one had problems with Andre the Giant being fat and slow when he got on a bit. I dont think anyone here lives the everyday problems of being ,more or less, a giant and the personal problems that it brings .

I would be more worried about the staleness in the title picture and main events than one of the attraction wrestlers lack of talent.

This is a good post, and fair play, it goes against the grain.

That's the thing with the Big Show... he is an attraction. I wouldn't want him to be technically good or high-flying- it's not his job.
Though Jeebus, when I saw him live a few months back, I almost fell off my seat when I saw him do a Sunset Flip.
The biggest problem is of course his weight, and it's fair enough to be critical of that, but at the same time, it should be remembered that almost all folks his size end up suffering. I can't blame him for not wanting to hit the gym when his knees and back are knackered, and he's suffering servere joint problems.
It would be really beneficial though if the WWE took him off TV when he gains weight or is injured, as a means of protecting, rather than punishing him. He also should never be booked as badly as he was in 2001-2002. Clever booking and elevating fresh Main Eventers would help prolong guys like Show and allow them to stay valuable.