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Wooden V uPVC Sash windows in wee house

  • 26-08-2009 9:37pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭


    I need to get new windows, sash would be best, wooden better again but need to keep costs down.

    Also a new wooden front door.

    Anyone got any recommendations, tips ?

    Thanks all

    (the pic included is of the 'look' I'm going for, my gaff has the same dimensions)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 758 ✭✭✭gears


    Why not get prices for all types, the way things are you might be surprised at the prices you get back and you might just get those wooden sash you want.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭Rusty Cogs 08


    Well only one place has actually given me a quote and that's because I walked into their showroom. circa €3,000- for the three (uPVC) windows. I've emailed and voicemailed other places but I guess they're not that interested.

    Kind of hard to compare when you've only one quote :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭Builderfromhell


    Might be worth getting timber sash winodws from one of the larger UK manufacturers. Can't recommend one but I'm sure you should find one by googling. Some of the modern timber sash winodws are great.
    You should be able to find someone local who can fit them.

    That uPVC price looks a bit high to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭S.L.F


    Well only one place has actually given me a quote and that's because I walked into their showroom. circa €3,000- for the three (uPVC) windows. I've emailed and voicemailed other places but I guess they're not that interested.

    Kind of hard to compare when you've only one quote :o

    Speaking as someone in the business of sash windows (good ones not uPVC) the thing I hate most is people wasting my time with getting me to do them quotes on the off chance they will go for it.

    If you really want a quote ask someone to call and measure up the windows and give you a quote.

    Speaking for myself it can be 2 to 4 weeks before I get a chance to call and see someones windows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,547 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    SLF you should read the forum charter and post accordingly.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭S.L.F


    Sorry muffler I was trying to give a different side to the post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭Rusty Cogs 08


    S.L.F wrote: »
    Speaking as someone in the business of sash windows (good ones not uPVC) the thing I hate most is people wasting my time with getting me to do them quotes on the off chance they will go for it.

    If you really want a quote ask someone to call and measure up the windows and give you a quote.

    Speaking for myself it can be 2 to 4 weeks before I get a chance to call and see someones windows.

    I'm a bit confused by your post, I'm looking for a general quote and (as shown) am happy to send on a picture of the house to assist in this without the need for the supplier to come out to the house (and use up both of our valuable time). Why shouldn't I seek (and hopefully get) non binding quotes over the phone, via email and then compare different quotes ? Why should I insist that the supplier comes out to the house if it's going to take 2 to 4 weeks ?

    You don't want your time wasted yet you complain about people not arranging a house call when looking for quotes ? I think that maybe you would prefer only to give quotes when on doing so will result in getting the job and that defeats the general idea of giving a quote IMO.

    Anyway, I'll continue in my search for the ever elusive quote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭S.L.F


    Sorry Rusty if I confused you, I did not wish to.

    There are several different window companies in Dublin if that is where you are if you were going for hardwood windows fully finished with proper brass or chrome fittings the price range would be anywhere from €1,500 to €2,200 per window.

    That is if you are getting the complete frame installed too.

    If it is just new sashes then you could be looking at between €800 and €1,200 each.

    I have heard of people who are supplying and installing composite sash windows for €600 each but I find that very hard to believe.

    The only dark cloud is if the wooden lintle above the windows are rotten and you have to replace them that's where it gets very very dirty.

    Just a quick question do you have sashes in the house already?

    If so you could get them draught proofed and restored far cheaper option


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭Rusty Cogs 08


    S.L.F (thanks for your response).

    There are currently single glaze PVC windows, the original sash windows are long gone.

    Unfortunately the prices you helpfully quote would stear me away from having repro sashes fitted. Although it would be my preference, current financial circumstances would not permit an outlay of €5k - €6k for three windows and I will most likely concentrate on the (new) uPVC option.

    And if anyone out there has any good feedback on Dublin area suppliers please let me know.

    Rgrds


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭S.L.F


    Hi Rusty,

    the chances are that your frame is still there it would be a case of just removing the current awful uPVC and putting a new nose on the frame then putting in new pulleys then all the other bits.

    The you would still just be getting 2 new sashes, far far better than getting that plastic rubbish.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭Rusty Cogs 08


    No idea if the frame is still in there, certainly not visable, the house is 100+ years old so I'm not sure what condition it would be in either.

    If it was (the frame still there) would two new sashes (x 3) come in at a more affordable price ?

    (and your more than welcome to go down and look at them if it's necessary, but this whole process will come down to price in the end for me).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭S.L.F


    No idea if the frame is still in there, certainly not visable, the house is 100+ years old so I'm not sure what condition it would be in either.

    If it was (the frame still there) would two new sashes (x 3) come in at a more affordable price ?

    (and your more than welcome to go down and look at them if it's necessary, but this whole process will come down to price in the end for me).

    Rusty can you post a pic of the inside of any the windows and I can tell from that.

    The wood in those old frames is far better than the stuff you get now and will last far longer if maintained (painted once every 5 to 7 years with oil based exterior paints).

    I have restored old frames in the past so it should be possible for someone to restore them even to a point of cutting away old sections and putting new wood in (just try to get whoever to put in the same species of wood).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭Rusty Cogs 08


    S.L.F wrote: »
    Rusty can you post a pic of the inside of any the windows and I can tell from that.

    The wood in those old frames is far better than the stuff you get now and will last far longer if maintained (painted once every 5 to 7 years with oil based exterior paints).

    I have restored old frames in the past so it should be possible for someone to restore them even to a point of cutting away old sections and putting new wood in (just try to get whoever to put in the same species of wood).

    There's a tennent in there at the moment so I'm not completely free to gain access unfortunately (likes their privacy). I'll be sure to have a look, take pictures next time I am though.


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