Dirty Diesel? Anyone else in the Limerick city (Corbally)?

Grogg

All,

I've a problem with some dirty diesel that I got a few weeks back.
A few weeks back I was in the North-East side of Limerick city where I filled my tank with diesel from a mid range player in the fuel business.
It was a petrol station near or perhaps in the Corbally area and will remain nameless for the moment until I can see where I go with this legally.

The cost of repairs to this rare Iveco engine is going to costs me thousands. Perhaps €4,000 of damage. I'm well pee'd off and I'm going to see if I can get a claim in against the station.

I'd like to hear from anyone that has had problems in this area with dirty diesel or any other form of fuel? If so, please can you let me know via this thread or if you'd like to keep it on the down-low, please PM me.

I'd also like to point out to the "your fault" message type people before they post that the station is a known brand in the Republic so please consider this before you post any replies. Thanks.

Regards,

Grogg

EPM

This is just a question - was the tank run low so as to pull in the crap that would lie at the bottom of the tank?

Berty

Hmmm a certain Shannon Banks Petrol Station. (I had named it but edited it as you dont want to name it)

bazz26

OP did you approach the owner of the filling station or get the contents of the fuel tank and filling station tank analyzed?

Also OP you or a mod might want to edit your original post as there are not that many filling stations on that road so it doesn't take a geniuse to work out who you are talking about. It could get this forum in alot of hot water too.

BTW I have no association with the filling station and don't even get my fuel there.

smcgiff

Get my diesel there too, but haven't had a problem so far. It is the cheapest in the region, so would like to know more.

How certain are you the station is at fault?

ttm

So what is the actual engine damage?

Also from the point of view of trying to prove it could only be the garages fault do you have a lockable filler cap thats left locked at all times when your not actually filling up?

Grogg

@ EPM: The fuel light was on by was only on for a few minutes.
The jeep was purchased from a guy that cared for his jeeps like I do with my pet dog. Well groomed and it was kitted out with a body kit that never say a pothole. I think he even cared for more than his mother to be honest
So I'm going on the premise that that tank was average to well clean.

@ Berty: Cheers for that.

@ bazz26: Unfortunatly I did not approach the station yet. The jeep is a very rare model. I think there might be single digit numbers of them here in Ireland. The engine is a Iveco engine so no one in Limerick/Clare could tell me what was wrong with it. I had to get a Iveco Truck Engine Engineer to check it. It took about 4 weeks to get an answer. So I've yet to return to the station.
We are looking at getting a sample from the tank but we might be too late for the fuel at the station. I'll try get there this week to take a sample. I've edited the original just to be fair, thanks.

@ smcgiff: Based upon some PM's that I've already got and from talking to the engineer, it seems that all pointers are at the station.

@ ttm: The actual damage seems to consist of all the fuel and injection pumps in the engine and some internal issues with the rods. But the main report from the engineer (don't have it to hand at the moment) is that the pumps are all shot. The engine will have to be lifted out and all pumps replaced. But from what I can tell there was a good bit more than this.
The filler caps is lockable for sure with the ignition key.

Thanks for all the feedback. Any further PM's would be welcomed. I just want to build up an impression before I take this to another level.

- Grogg

EPM

Annoying situation. Just to clarify though what I meant by the tank thing is that little bits of debris can accumulate at the bottom of fuel tanks no matter how well cared for. When a tank gets low it can drag some of this debris into the injectors with the fuel and cause damage there. Hope you get it sorted out all the same.

Just out of interest-what is it? I'm slightly curious thats all!

h3000

EPM wrote: »

Just out of interest-what is it? I'm slightly curious thats all!

I wonder is it a Santana PS10

EPM

h3000 wrote: »

I wonder is it a Santana PS10

Could well be. I vaguely remember a roadtest in some car magazine a couple of years ago now of some Iveco too that looked like a defender or something...I'll try dig something up...

EDIT - Iveco Massif

Grogg

@ h3000: Spot on. It's a Santana PS10

EPM

Grogg wrote: »

@ h3000: Spot on. It's a Santana PS10

The military spec one looks kinda cool:D

h3000

Grogg wrote: »

@ h3000: Spot on. It's a Santana PS10

Is yours dark blue with spotlights accross the roof?? I think I have seen it around town...

EPM wrote: »

The military spec one looks kinda cool:D

It does :cool:

EDIT: Sorry for being way off topic by the way:)

Grogg

@ h3000: Yeah. Thats the one. I've a full length roof rail system with a 3 man tent on top. A full set of high-lights on the top (4 bright ones), snorkel and more. It "was" running great

Mr Benevolent

It's very unlikely that it was 'dirty' diesel. Far more likely that the crud at the bottom of the tank was sucked into the engine during the low fuel condition. Even if it was the diesel, without a sample of the tank at that time and since so long has passed there's virtually no likelyhood of any compensation.

Bandara

Confab wrote: »

It's very unlikely that it was 'dirty' diesel. Far more likely that the crud at the bottom of the tank was sucked into the engine during the low fuel condition. Even if it was the diesel, without a sample of the tank at that time and since so long has passed there's virtually no likelyhood of any compensation.

Spot on, the likelyhood of 'dirty' deisel is nigh on impossible, it doesn;t happen anymore.

And yes, you've left it way way too long to be able to go back to the station and expect them to be able to do anything for you. You should have immediately returned to the garage the day you realised an issue and the manager there would have went through the procedures with you on the spot.

This is a common occurance in garages, people try to blame anything on 'bad' or 'dirty' fuel.

The tests for it are instant and simple, and analysis in a lab can be easily arranged as well.

Grogg

As you can see from the my posts about.... the jeep is a rare breed. It took over 3 weeks to determine the reason for the engine's complete failure.

If I had an Iveco engine engineer in my pocket I suppose I could have returned that day, or even a few after. But it was 4 garages later and 3 weeks after down in Cork that I got my answers.

I'm going to wait for the report. I have a sample of the fuel from 3 days after.
Time will tell. To all those who added to this discussion, many thanks. And some of those PMs have come in useful too.

-Grogg

Bandara

Grogg wrote: »

As you can see from the my posts about.... the jeep is a rare breed. It took over 3 weeks to determine the reason for the engine's complete failure.

If I had an Iveco engine engineer in my pocket I suppose I could have returned that day, or even a few after. But it was 4 garages later and 3 weeks after down in Cork that I got my answers.

I'm going to wait for the report. I have a sample of the fuel from 3 days after.
Time will tell. To all those who added to this discussion, many thanks. And some of those PMs have come in useful too.

-Grogg

Hi grogg

the problem you have is the sample of the fuel from 3 days after is going to be perfect, a station like that is going to be getting deliveries every 2 days or so, so even in the highly unfeasible event of 'diry' derv ever being there its going to be long long gone out of the system by the time you got a sample.

Also from a purely logical viewpoint if they did have 'dirty' fuel they would have about 700 vehicles (14,000 litre standard derv delivery x €20 average spend) destroyed and the news would be all over the papers, locality etc, its not something that can be hidden.

Sorry, but its nigh on unprovable.

Grogg

Got the jeep back today. Just under 4K in payout.
I'll leave the workings with the oldman and see what he thinks but for now I'm just glad to be able to hit those hills again.

Cheers for the info and advice fellow Boarders.

- Grogg