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Is she right?

  • 25-08-2009 2:59pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    I went to a fortune teller yesterday. I knew she was very accurate from friends and family that have seen her in the past. Almost all of the things she claimed to happen did. so she told me yesterday that my sisters boyfriend is texting an old flame of his and still likes her. i wasnt sure whether to tell her or not. anyways, i did and now she's annoyed and bit upset over it. this physic is 100%. so.. now shes in a situation where she knows there's somthing going on yet, should she say something to him? she cant tell him this...iv messed things up for her or have i?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭Big Knox


    I went to a fortune teller yesterday. I knew she was very accurate from friends and family that have seen her in the past. Almost all of the things she claimed to happen did. so she told me yesterday that my sisters boyfriend is texting an old flame of his and still likes her. i wasnt sure whether to tell her or not. anyways, i did and now she's annoyed and bit upset over it. this physic is 100%. so.. now shes in a situation where she knows there's somthing going on yet, should she say something to him? she cant tell him this...iv messed things up for her or have i?

    :rolleyes:

    So a "fortune teller" told you that your sisters boyfriend is txting an old flame? And you went and told her this?

    I really really really hope this a troll because it's absolutely rediculous, if your serious you really should be ashamed of yourself. Cop on and grow up!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 468 ✭✭snowy2008


    you shouldnt have said anything im afraid! most of these psychics are used for entertainment purposes but then again she might have suspected something was up with her fella! just say your sorry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    im surprised with the feedback i've received. i'm taking this pychic seriously because everything she has said in the past has came true, right down to the minor details. thanks for nothing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 468 ✭✭snowy2008


    whos the psychic? and you asked advice so dont snap!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭Kipperhell


    I can't believe anybody would think a physic's musings mean you "know" something. Aside from your strange idea of proof you would be correct in letting her know.

    Given what your belief is based on it was entirely inappropriate and you should beg for forgiveness and stress what it was based on. If she is equally superstitious then she will see it as proof otherwise I guess she might think you are an idiot.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Hey op im with you on this, I probably wouldant have said anything, maybe done a little investigating myself. Keep us informed. It would be interesting for the other posters to see if he actually is texting the old flame.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,830 ✭✭✭✭Taltos


    OP

    a psychic someone I know went to told them their OH had an inoperable tumor and only had weeks to live...

    That was a while ago.
    Hope it was not the same one you went to.

    Maybe you should ask them for the lotto numbers.

    Not kidding above - but you know it is fine for you to go and seek the advice of people like this. And I am sure there are some very reputable ones out there - however putting the advice you got aside. What were you thinking by interfering in another relationship?
    Seriously - that was bang out of order. If someone came to me with this kind of news I swear to jeebus I would kick em to the kerb so fast the door wouldn't hit them on the way out.

    So in summary - continue to go there if you find it useful. But leave the information you receive there. & think twice about interfering - even with the best of intentions - did you really think this would end well.
    It could be they were spot on - but come on, use your noggin.... The bearer of bad news (even if right) always gets the boot...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,848 ✭✭✭✭Zombrex


    im surprised with the feedback i've received. i'm taking this pychic seriously because everything she has said in the past has came true, right down to the minor details. thanks for nothing

    Psychics aren't real. She is cold reading you.

    Do not act on what predictions she is telling you, she is making it up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 350 ✭✭wexford202


    I cannot believe that you went and said that to your sister.

    That is the most ridicolous thing I have ever heard.

    You have put doubt in someones mind about a relationship and for that you should be ashamed.

    The only way the fortune person would know if your sister's fella was doing that is if she is the person he is texting. You wouldn't need O2 storing messages for years if a person can tell things like that!

    Also your sister may have said the last time she was there that she was suss about her fella and now the psychic is using that to fuel your head.

    I would be very cross at you if I were your sister :mad:


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Wicknight wrote: »
    Psychics aren't real. She is cold reading you.

    Do not act on what predictions she is telling you, she is making it up.
    Exactly. You may believe in this, the "psychic" may even believe it, but there's no evidence for it being true. Certainly not consistently and certainly not to this degree of accuracy. We all have our own quirky notions and that's good, but not when it involves others and may damage relationships on the back of it. As Taltos wrote if yu get comfort from this then cool, but keep it to yourself.

    You need to apologise to your sister. I hope she doesn't believe in this stuff and goes off and causes and argument with her partner, for no logical reason what so ever. If she does believe in this stuff, I really don't know how you can repair this, if you have her believing her partner may be cheating.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 696 ✭✭✭gogglebok


    OP, a stranger told you something nasty about your family, and you believed her because you think she has magic powers. Do you really, deep down, think that this was a good idea?

    Psychics can be very convincing. They have worked hard at developing their tricks. But they are still tricks. You are being deceived, and the only motive for the deception is to get your money. Be very careful. These people are dangerous.

    She has already damaged your relationship with some of the members of your family, which will isolate you, and make you more likely to rely on the fortune teller. This sounds to me like a deeply cynical con artist, like all psychics.

    I am sorry you've been cheated like this, and I hope you don't leave yourself open for any more of it.

    Wicknight mentioned "cold reading". If you want to find out more about it, you can start here - http://www.skepdic.com/coldread.html. It's also very likely that she is using information she has got from her sessions with your friends and family. But you don't have to understand the techniques. Just avoid the perpetrators. If they really had magic powers, then every scientist and every religion since the dawn of time is wrong. And if they really had psychic powers, why would they need your money? Can't they find a betting shop?

    And Wibbs is right. You need to apologise to your sister.

    Please be careful with this huckster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,264 ✭✭✭mood


    I went to a Psychic way back - actually to different ones. They both had amazingly good reputations. Friends told me stuff they were told. Stuff you couldn't guess - or so I thought.

    Nothing I was told by either was true. NOTHING!!!

    I would never go to one again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭xcarriex


    Oh my god i cant believe you would do that, i go to them on a regular basis, and they have told me some really accurate readings, but to be honest unless they tell me someone will get hit by a bus and i see the bus coming for them, i dont go around telling people, i go there for me not for them, and i dont think its right to interfere in someones life unless they ask, and in which case they can go get a reading themselves,

    If your sister is freaked out about said reading, i suggest she go to the same psychic who obv wont know who she is and see if she gets the same reading??

    It should give you a fairly accurate answer!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭RossFixxxed


    This is the greatest thing I've ever seen on boards, and quite possibly the most ridiculous. You should seriously look at yourself and your need for magical powers to explain your life. It is 100% inappropriate to go to yuour sister with this in the first place. You'll upset her and frankly look very foolish in the process.

    Get on with fixing the REAL issues in your life, otherwise my crystal ball says you're not gonna have a great time relying on someone's magical potions to predict what happens you. Frankly half of these chancers take one look at the misfits that walk in and can tell everything about you! You have a long way to growing up I'm afraid.

    Use this to grow, it reflects terribly on you but you can use that! Good luck OP.

    R


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 848 ✭✭✭Dinxminx


    I am not going to judge you on your beliefs, OP. I respect the fact that you wholeheartedly believe this.

    However, planting the seeds of suspicion in another person's mind regarding a relationship is at best, ill-advised and thoughtless, and at worst, cruel. It is very hard to shake off doubt once it has taken root, and if your sister is as superstitious as you are this could destroy the relationship whether the boy is entirely innocent or not.

    You say the psychic has been accurate about everything before, but I am surprised that you believe this to mean that she would be accurate about everything, always. Did you even for a moment wonder if this might be the one time this psychic is wrong? I am also surprised that you would risk your sister's happiness by telling her, rather than waiting for some sort of tangible proof.

    Regardless of any other facts, this will have been damaging to your sister's relationship with her boyfriend. You go to pyschic readings for yourself, not other people. Keep it to yourself in future and spare everybody the drama.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 paymemymoney


    i am glad I don't have a sister like you. You hear something from a physic of all people , take it as gospel and then pass it on.

    I pity your sister.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    op here..

    so the general replies advise me to apologise to her and grow up.

    i still think that i've actually helped her out by letting her know whats hes possibly up to. they're not going out together that long and i'd never forgive myself if this relationship turned into years and he was seeing someone else all along. at least she can pay more attention to whats hes up to and suss him out.

    shes actually been to see her before because the psychic was her patient at hospital and she passed her name on to me. this psychic has no magical powers or the likes..just everything shes said in past has been true.

    i've never been into psychics or anything of the sort...just thought i'd try it out, seeing as she's v.accurate and for a bit of fun. il do almost everything in life once anyways.

    its seems that when a few people post a reply with a similar attitude towards this, it continues on..


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,351 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    i still think that i've actually helped her out by letting her know whats hes possibly up to.

    What he's possibly up to??? Seriously, I'm assuming that you're an intelligent woman and are actually able to see how ridiculous that statement is. He could also possibly be planning a major bank raid, planning to learn how to scuba dive or change jobs and become an undertaker. Just because a fortune teller says it doesn't lend it any more credence than any of the scenarios I've mentioned.
    just thought i'd try it out, seeing as she's v.accurate and for a bit of fun.

    Where exactly is the fun in possibly causing the breakup of a relationship based on a completely unfounded remark? You need to do the decent thing and apologise to your sister. You also need to avoid fortune tellers in the future because I don't need a crystal ball to tell me that no good can come of it.
    its seems that when a few people post a reply with a similar attitude towards this, it continues on..

    So you think that people are jumping on the bandwagon and if the first reply had been supportive of you all the others would have been too? PI doesn't work that way, posters here are not sheep, they generally have strong opinions on just about everything, including charlatans masquerading as fortune tellers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭SarahSassy


    everything she has said in the past has came true, right down to the minor details.

    Why are you paying someone to tell you what has already happened to you??????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Zaph wrote: »
    What he's possibly up to??? Seriously, I'm assuming that you're an intelligent woman and are actually able to see how ridiculous that statement is. He could also possibly be planning a major bank raid, planning to learn how to scuba dive or change jobs and become an undertaker. Just because a fortune teller says it doesn't lend it any more credence than any of the scenarios I've mentioned.


    i dont care about what hes gets up to, as long as he isnt seeing anyone else. that's where she could be more alert incase what the psychic says is true

    Zaph wrote: »
    Where exactly is the fun in possibly causing the breakup of a relationship based on a completely unfounded remark? You need to do the decent thing and apologise to your sister. You also need to avoid fortune tellers in the future because I don't need a crystal ball to tell me that no good can come of it.


    the fun of it all was going to get a reading. i obviously didn't know she was going to say that about my sisters boyfriend! if i knew that i wouldn't need to go! im not psychic myself.


    Zaph wrote: »
    So you think that people are jumping on the bandwagon and if the first reply had been supportive of you all the others would have been too? PI doesn't work that way, posters here are not sheep, they generally have strong opinions on just about everything, including charlatans masquerading as fortune tellers.


    everyones entitled to their own opinion and i'm happy to receive this feedback, be it negative or not. i think some people have posted things that are a bit nasty to be honest. im almost coming across as a malicious trouble-maker where i feel i am being honest and open. she can take what she wants from it herself.


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  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,351 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    i dont care about what hes gets up to, as long as he isnt seeing anyone else. that's where she could be more alert incase what the psychic says is true

    And you should be more alert because a meteorite might hit you on the head. Now what I've just said could turn out to be true (and apologies in advance for not being more forceful with my warning if it does!), but you're hardly likely to be watching the skies every time you leave the house based on something I've just plucked from thin air, are you? Now apply the same logic to what the fortune teller told you...
    i think some people have posted things that are a bit nasty to be honest. im almost coming across as a malicious trouble-maker where i feel i am being honest and open.

    My own opinion is that you're certainly not malicious, but you are coming across as a bit naive to a) place any credence in the words of a fortune teller; and b) repeat what she said to your sister knowing that it could cause trouble where none may exist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,830 ✭✭✭✭Taltos


    Zaph wrote: »
    What he's possibly up to??? Seriously, I'm assuming that you're an intelligent woman and are actually able to see how ridiculous that statement is.

    Unfortunately from the first post and the subsequent ones it is apparent the OP not only sees nothing wrong in what she said but is instead steadfast in her belief that she has saved her sister from a lying cheat.
    So with an outlook like this I do not believe anyone here can really get through to the OP. :(

    OP - some of us have tried not to be cruel to you and to reinforce that what you believe is your choice. Gawd knows some folk believe in angels and the like - just ask Doogle... However you really have no right to pass on not the comments of someone it now turns out already knows your sister... If a 3rd party had told you they witnessed this first hand that would be one thing - but what you did is pass on the information from someone who didn't witness anything but instead has a supernatural insight.

    So go ahead dismiss this post too.
    But in answer to your original question "Is she right?"

    Psychic - who knows...
    Your sister - damn right she should be angry with you, you need to crawl on all fours and beg her forgiveness...

    However I can imagine you are feeling self-satisfied and smug to have put her relationship on the skids. Could you be jealous?
    I am not being vindictive - just trying to understand why a normal - sane - responsible adult would ever consider doing what you have done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 211 ✭✭starchild


    Hi op. I do believe in psychic abilities but in this case i think you were either mislead or perhaps you were at a medium.

    A true psychic can only tell you something about you. Psychics are tuned into the sixth sense which allows them to pick up snatches of thoughts which are emanating from you. Plus they tend to tell you about the future not what is occuring now.

    This psychic would only have been able to tell you something about you personally not what your sisters boyfriend is doing. So if this was genuinely said i would surmise that you were thinking this was occuring, Why you were only you can know.

    Either way you should always be very careful about passing on any information you receive, its no different to hearing a rumour and repeating it, its dangerous for the simple reason that you are taking the word of a person who may be a fraud or a charlatan without any concrete proof.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,937 ✭✭✭implausible


    i dont care about what hes gets up to, as long as he isnt seeing anyone else. that's where she could be more alert incase what the psychic says is true

    im almost coming across as a malicious trouble-maker where i feel i am being honest and open. she can take what she wants from it herself.

    You're not making her more alert, you're planting the seeds of doubt and once they take root, they're extremely difficult to get rid of - that's what she may take from it herself. You're effectively poisoning a new relationship.

    You would be 'honest and open' if you told your sister something you knew as established fact. How would you feel if someone cast doubt on your new romance based on a rumour (about as substantial as a psychic's reading)? You'd be furious too!

    Nobody is saying you're malicious, they're just trying to point out that you didn't think through your actions or don't realise the consequences of them for your sister.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 Dirac


    ...i still think that i've actually helped her out by letting her know whats hes possibly up to.

    You've helped her out by letting her know what he's possibly up to??? How do you rationalise that idea??

    they're not going out together that long and i'd never forgive myself if this relationship turned into years and he was seeing someone else all along.
    With all due respect, it's actually none of your business!

    Have you considered what effect you will have had on their relationship if (sorry, WHEN) what you were told turns out to be a crock???

    this psychic has no magical powers or the likes..just everything shes said in past has been true.
    Please give some concrete examples.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87 ✭✭witchywoman


    A true psychic can only tell you something about you.




    this is the truth


    no point asking if your friends and family are ok .... nor your aunties grannys butchers dog . i think the op was naieve to tell her sister the info but she appeared to be acting in good faith when she did , be warned , charlatans masquerading as psychics are many .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭kelle


    I went to a well-reviewed fortune teller years ago. He told me a few things i would have deemed accurate, then he informed me I was pregnant! I was upset by this as I was just married and wanted to wait a few years before tying myself down, but I wasn't. Amazingly, he also predicted I was going on an activity holiday early the following year - I had booked a ski-ing holiday the day before. If he thought about it, I wouldn't have been able to go if I had been heavily pregnant :D
    So I wouldn't take everything they say as Gospel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭Saucey-Susie


    so, your sister should be suspicious of her boyfriend..... so if your sis goes up to him and tells him she thinks he is cheating on her, or texting another girl, and he asks why she thinks that, and she says, a psychic told my sister.... i can see him look at her, and just burst out laughing!

    Go to you tube and look up Derren Brown and code reading. He has learned to do this over the years and does it to prove the psychics arent real. Just watch it, there is 1 chip from his show where he pretends to be a medium to some american people and is able to tell them things he shouldnt know. Its a skill, a skill that can be learned


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