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Bid to smash old habits with safer pint glass

  • 24-08-2009 12:43pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭


    Brit Nanny state strikes again :rolleyes:

    Would you be happy to drink out of plastic glasses in your local?
    I can't say I would, glass is just nicer.

    Indo wrote:
    TIME is being called on the traditional beer glass as Britain's Home Office calls in experts to develop a safer pint pot. The move follows growing concern at the number and extent of injuries caused in violent incidents involving glassware each year.

    Over the next four months a team of designers will produce a range of drinking vessels that are not only a safer pint glass but, crucially, find favour with the public.

    Although there is confidence that the designers can produce a safer glass, the key problem is overcoming the drinkers' attachment to the traditional pint glass.

    Sebastian Conran, who heads the Home Office's Design and Technology Alliance Against Crime, said: "There are existing plastic glasses and if you go to a baseball game in the United States you can buy beer in a paper cup.

    "People are quite used to drinking beer out of plastic and paper things but there is a feeling that in public it is a traditional thing to drink beer out of a glass."

    Mr Conran said that reducing the estimated 87,000 injuries caused every year by glassware is the key behind the initiative. "We want to find something that will end the situation where shards of glass can inflict quite horrible injuries," he added.

    Designers have been asked to look at four specific areas as they develop the next generation of pint glasses: adding a new feature to the glass material that provides safety when it is broken; developing a composite or alternative material; ensuring that plastic and polycarbonate is at the core of any new vessel; and making sure that the new material makes no difference to the consumer's enjoyment of the drink. (© The Times, London)


Comments

  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    I've drank out of flimsy plastic glasses before and they were utter shíte. Pint glasses are the only way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Heavy metal tankards ftw


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,434 ✭✭✭DigiGal


    The lads tell me Guinness tastes ****e out of a plastic glass


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,763 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Drank out of plastic at many festivals and football matches. No biggie.

    EDIT - Not Guinness, though.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    plastic and paper containers makes drink taste muck, if the boffins can't come up with a better solution we shall have to shove pint glasses in their faces for failing us.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,862 ✭✭✭✭inforfun


    Years back i was on holidays in Spain and i accidentally throw over a glass on the bar.
    The glas was real glass and went into hundreds of pieces. Just like a car window.
    Hard to "glass" someone with that i suppose.

    So the solution is there already. No need for plastic, it only makes your drink taste ****e, easier to spill if the plastic is a bit weak.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,082 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    I'd have no problem drinking out of nice hard plastic pint sized cups, but those cheap things that can be squeezed are a nightmare.

    I'd say barstaff would love them to be introduced as there'd be no broken glass to clean up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Over the next four months a team of designers will produce a range of drinking vessels that are not only a safer pint glass but, crucially, find favour with the public.
    The problem there is all they want is a more deadly weapon. If only they could find a way of making the glass deadly without breaking it and consequently making it useless for drinking out of.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Long Onion


    I'd say barstaff would love them to be introduced as there'd be no broken glass to clean up.


    Blah blah blah *some self righteous sh1te about the environment, get back onto high horse bicycle and goes back to mansion in D4* blah blah blah


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,434 ✭✭✭DigiGal


    ScumLord wrote: »
    The problem there is all they want is a more deadly weapon. If only they could find a way of making the glass deadly without breaking it and consequently making it useless for drinking out of.
    couldn't ya stab someone with broken plastic anyway????


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    People are quite used to drinking beer out of plastic and paper things but there is a feeling that in public it is a traditional thing to drink beer out of a glass.

    He neglects to mention that said people are not given a choice and bitch and moan about the fact too. If plastic was brought in and enforced I think I'd stop going over to Liverpool on piss ups.
    Anyway what are they going to do about bottles of beer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,110 ✭✭✭KevR


    I always find I finish the pint quicker out of a flimsey plastic pint container as my grip on the container squeezes it in a bit, therefore tipping a little extra into my mouth when I take a swig.

    Pint plastic containers everywhere will make people drink more and drink quicker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭Adamcp898


    ShooterSF wrote: »
    He neglects to mention that said people are not given a choice and bitch and moan about the fact too. If plastic was brought in and enforced I think I'd stop going over to Liverpool on piss ups.
    Anyway what are they going to do about bottles of beer?

    Take them down and pass them around?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    They're not talking about using flimsy plastics like you do infestivals. They're talking about trying to create something that's close to a glass, but made out of plastic. They'll be sturdy and won't shatter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭Hamiltonion


    anyone ever break a toughened glass window? V hard to break ans if you do they shatter into hundreds of lil pieces without sharp edges, like marbles, so why no just use toughened glass? Harder to break and no sharps, ie no one being glassed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,801 ✭✭✭✭Gary ITR


    anyone ever break a toughened glass window? V hard to break ans if you do they shatter into hundreds of lil pieces without sharp edges, like marbles, so why no just use toughened glass? Harder to break and no sharps, ie no one being glassed

    I'd imagine the cost would be astronomical and also one of those over the head and you're liable to knock somebody out. It's a case of 6 in 1 and half a dozen in the other there.

    The club I work in has been open around 10 years now and I only know of one glassing incident. A girl glassed a guy for no reason at all. In the UK it seems like outside every club every Friday, Saturday and Sunday somebody gets glassed.

    To be honest the biggest problem we have with glasses is running out of the buggers


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Magnus wrote: »
    Heavy metal tankards ftw

    I always preferred classic rock tankards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    humanji wrote: »
    They're not talking about using flimsy plastics like you do infestivals. They're talking about trying to create something that's close to a glass, but made out of plastic. They'll be sturdy and won't shatter.
    They'll shatter the environment though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭Mrmoe


    I always preferred classic rock tankards.

    do they have that on spinal tap?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Doc


    I saw a girl standing right next to me get glassed in a club in England Id drink out of plastic glasses any day to stop that. It was horrific.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭laugh


    inforfun wrote: »
    Years back i was on holidays in Spain and i accidentally throw over a glass on the bar.
    The glas was real glass and went into hundreds of pieces. Just like a car window.
    Hard to "glass" someone with that i suppose.
    .


    Hold one and break it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Long Onion


    I'm against getting rid of the real glasses - I'd have nothing to throw at Glen 'Fcuking' Hansard or Damien 'Fcuking' Rice


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    I'd settle for a pint glass that gave me full pint of beer. It's amazing how you can fill a pint glass (568ml) with a 500ml can. That's more than 11% of a pint missing. Robbing barstewards. Make the container out of recycled newspapers coated in beeswax if you like, just stop ripping me off you fukkers. :mad:

    ROI only


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭RHunce


    DigiGal wrote: »
    The lads tell me Guinness tastes ****e out of a plastic glass

    guinness tastes ****e out of everything :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭Kipperhell


    I worked in a pub with really hard plastic cups instead of pint glasses fro some events. They really effect the taste and don't last very long either. If you have ever seen plastic discoloured or damaged by sunlight you might get the idea of what can happen.

    Some scientists also think the chemicals in plastic are harmful if ingested and that happens when plastic containers are reused.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭xOxSinéadxOx


    First they do it to our milk and now this :eek:


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,581 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    Long Onion wrote: »
    I'm against getting rid of the real glasses - I'd have nothing to throw at Glen 'Fcuking' Hansard or Damien 'Fcuking' Rice
    Plastic cup full of piss?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    ScumLord wrote:
    They'll shatter the environment though.
    So? When's the last time mother nature did anything for us? It's about time we smashed a glass in her face...oh. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Hagar wrote: »
    I'd settle for a pint glass that gave me full pint of beer. It's amazing how you can fill a pint glass (568ml) with a 500ml can. That's more than 11% of a pint missing.

    only if you don't pour it properly and end up with lots of head...

    Holland are the worse for that, half a pint of head:mad:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,801 ✭✭✭✭Gary ITR


    I've heard head is easy to come by in Holland alright


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    Holland are the worse for that, half a pint of head:mad:

    I don't know...I never had any complaints about the head I got in Holland. :pac:

    Anyway, good to know some of my old threads are influencing British domestic policy: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055258188


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Onkle wrote: »
    I've heard head is easy to come by in Holland alright

    Yeah it's everywhere :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    Drinks out of glass just magically taste better.

    But I wouldn't/didn't feel bad stealing plastic glasses


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 553 ✭✭✭Futurism


    Long Onion wrote: »
    Blah blah blah *some self righteous sh1te about the environment, get back onto high horse bicycle and goes back to mansion in D4* blah blah blah

    I'm sorry, what?


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    id be all for this.. my cousins face is deformed pretty bad from a gay hate pint to the face years ago in england. scary what can happen on a night out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭DenMan


    I've had enough glasses fired at me while working in bars/clubs to know that bringing in plastic or paper cups is a great idea. Luckily enough I was never hit with one, flew over my head/shoulder alright but a few friends were, very bad cuts. It's apalling. When drinking in Manchester and London in Metal bars, it's served in plastic pints. Has to be addressed. Next person who says glass all the way may very well be hit in the eye by a pint glass or bottle by some plank off his head.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,817 ✭✭✭✭Dord


    brummytom wrote: »
    Drinks out of glass just magically taste better.

    How would you know? :rolleyes: :p


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Safety glass wot shatters into little pieces ,
    or how about laminated safety glass , with plastic covering so the broken glass doesn't separate

    polystyrene cups would keep your pint cool, but everyone would hate them

    single use plastic glasses are a waste , they crack too easily


    or maybe they could use the existing CCTV cameras to prosecute the few scumbags


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭aDeener


    DigiGal wrote: »
    The lads tell me Guinness tastes ****e out of a plastic glass

    guinness can only be drank out of the tulip pint glass ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭Flying Abruptly


    The japanese have the answer - glasses made of ice!:pac:
    http://weinterrupt.com/2009/07/tokyo-company-sells-beer-mugs-made-of-ice/


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭Epic Tissue


    I don't trust people enough to be able to handle drinking out of a glass container. Plastic ftw!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭smellslikeshoes


    I'd agree with them changing it, handing glass pints out is essentially putting a weapon in a drunk's hands, which is hardly a good idea.
    Hopefully in UK they won't just decide on plastic cups and actually put some work into making it feel like a proper pint. If they actually do go ahead with it I'd assume we won't be too far behind


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,929 ✭✭✭Raiser


    First they do it to our milk and now this :eek:

    :eek:

    You're right - Not to mind glasses, plastic tumblers or cups; Jugs FTW.


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