jeff hardy

cena

so is this it jeff actually gone or it some story line thats coming up. i can't believe that some one that is fan favorite right now would leave.

also the croowd were stoke to the deadman come back

Penn

cena wrote: »

so is this it jeff actually gone or it some story line thats coming up. i can't believe that some one that is fan favorite right now would leave.

also the croowd were stoke to the deadman come back

I don't know. This is from wwe.com:

In the end, the Chicago native proved he didn’t need the Money in the Bank contract to win the title, but he has already learned that being on top makes you a target. With Undertaker returning to Smackdown and Jeff Hardy eager for a rematch, The Straightedge Champion will be at no loss for challengers.

I know the ending of the match was to show Takers return, but surely they wouldn't let Hardy retire like that. Just slinking under the ring, never to be seen again, with the only mention of retirement coming one week before. I think he might actually be staying. Unless Teddy Long, Matt Hardy or CM Punk open Smackdown by announcing Jeff is gone, but that'd be a hell of a cop-out to do it like that

JP Liz

Jeff is on SD this week but i think its to say his goodbyes - hope he gets a good send off

Penn

From Matt Hardys twitter page last friday:

Here's an update for the "sheets"-Jeff & I might not team again due to pursuing singles careers. And Jeff will be with WWE after Summerslam.

Although as JP Liz said, maybe this is only referring to Jeff appearing on one more show to announce he's retiring

cena

if this is whats going to happen it sucks. didn't he go on about how the doctors have told him that he can't going on doing this job.

Ridley

JP Liz wrote: »

Jeff is on SD this week but i think its to say his goodbyes - hope he gets a good send off

Bah, transforming into the Undertaker should have been the way to go. Man's supposed to be an artist.

Penn

Ridley wrote: »

Bah, transforming into the Undertaker should have been the way to go. Man's supposed to be an artist.

haha. That'd be great. Have Taker walk into Matts changing room, say "Hey bro, how's it go....aarrgrrghhh (eyes roll back) aarragghhhh...... IN.... PEAAACCCCEEEE....." and walk back out

JP Liz

This week on SD

Days after they squared off in a brutal TLC Match at SummerSlam, new World Heavyweight Champion CM Punk and Jeff Hardy will go to war again in a Steel Cage Mage for Punk’s gold.

http://www.wwe.com/shows/smackdown/?cid=2009NEWTOPNAV-00

hyn-zie

JP Liz wrote: »

This week on SD

Days after they squared off in a brutal TLC Match at SummerSlam, new World Heavyweight Champion CM Punk and Jeff Hardy will go to war again in a Steel Cage Mage for Punk’s gold.

http://www.wwe.com/shows/smackdown/?cid=2009NEWTOPNAV-00

Jeff will lose this and then anounce his retirement!!! make a return in the rumble win it then win at wrestlemania!!!

Penn

hyn-zie wrote: »

Jeff will lose this and then anounce his retirement!!! make a return in the rumble win it then win at wrestlemania!!!

But this is the thing, last week on Smackdown he said he wouldn't be retiring. For him to retire just because he keeps losing to Punk goes against everything we know about Hardy, about how he never gives up and keeps trying and all that. I think the only way he could leave is through a kayfabe injury. Have Punk cut a promo beforehand talking about how Jeff lost because he takes such huge risks, then have Hardy jump off the cage or something, injure himself, get carried out.

Then the next week, Matt or Teddy Long announce Jeff is injured and may not be back, then have Punk come out and gloat. Matt V Punk main event that Smackdown, Taker comes out during the match, sets up Taker/Punk for Breaking Point

DM_7

paddyirishman85 wrote: »

But this is the thing, last week on Smackdown he said he wouldn't be retiring. For him to retire just because he keeps losing to Punk goes against everything we know about Hardy, about how he never gives up and keeps trying and all that. I think the only way he could leave is through a kayfabe injury. Have Punk cut a promo beforehand talking about how Jeff lost because he takes such huge risks, then have Hardy jump off the cage or something, injure himself, get carried out.

Then the next week, Matt or Teddy Long announce Jeff is injured and may not be back, then have Punk come out and gloat. Matt V Punk main event that Smackdown, Taker comes out during the match, sets up Taker/Punk for Breaking Point

That would work nicely.

liam09

jeff hardy retire how can he betray his fans like muppets and leave espieally when he winning for fun plz dont leave jeff

D.Q

liam09 wrote: »

jeff hardy retire how can he betray his fans like muppets and leave espieally when he winning for fun plz dont leave jeff

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuation

EdK

IMO Jeff Hardy is an idiot, he's just walked away from the hottest run he's ever had and might ever have again because they may never give him the ball again, He was literally on top of the game but chose to pack it all in, in favour of painting a few pictures and riding his bike

He is 31 years old wrestling is his job, not just a hobby, even if he stuck at until 35 he could have had a hugely successful run and retired early in a very comfortable position

But no he's thrown everything he built away because he's tired or burned out or whatever, he knew what he had signed upto when he came back

In short I think he's blown everything and is a big crybaby

Penn

EdK wrote: »

IMO Jeff Hardy is an idiot, he's just walked away from the hottest run he's ever had and might ever have again because they may never give him the ball again, He was literally on top of the game but chose to pack it all in, in favour of painting a few pictures and riding his bike

He is 31 years old wrestling is his job, not just a hobby, even if he stuck at until 35 he could have had a hugely successful run and retired early in a very comfortable position

But no he's thrown everything he built away because he's tired or burned out or whatever, he knew what he had signed upto when he came back

In short I think he's blown everything and is a big crybaby

I have to say I kinda agree. He should have taken a few months off if he needed them, definitely, but becoming the top face in the company, becoming a 3-time world champion in about 8 months, and continuously having great fueds and matches. To just fully leave now is ridiculous. He'll be back though.

savemejebus

EdK wrote: »

IMO Jeff Hardy is an idiot, he's just walked away from the hottest run he's ever had and might ever have again because they may never give him the ball again, He was literally on top of the game but chose to pack it all in, in favour of painting a few pictures and riding his bike

He is 31 years old wrestling is his job, not just a hobby, even if he stuck at until 35 he could have had a hugely successful run and retired early in a very comfortable position

But no he's thrown everything he built away because he's tired or burned out or whatever, he knew what he had signed upto when he came back

In short I think he's blown everything and is a big crybaby

What's the point of success if you can't enjoy it? Jeff is 31 but he's already put his body through more than any of us ever will. If he doesn't take a break now he could end up like the Dynamite Kid and I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

Jeff is throwing away nothing, he's had his hugely successful run and he's leaving on his own terms and on good terms with the office. He's the most over guy in the company and he hasn't been devalued by being made look weak or turned heel without it making sense (think Jericho before he left wwe) and lost popularity with the people that buy the merch which wwe use as an indicator of bankability.

When/If he comes back, he will make a huge splash and the fans will eat it up. Plus he'll be on a clean sheet wellness wise.

On the other hand he could stay, go through the gruelling schedule and fall back into the substance abuse problems he had before and get fired. Or he could let all those nagging injuries catch up with him and not be able to work his preferred style and lose the support of the fans through lackustre matches. Or he could just lose interest like in TNA.

BTW

Jeff & Punk have a loser leaves wwe steel cage match on smackdown this week. I think you can guess the result

Dancor

Smackdown spoiler:

Hardy lost the loser leaves town match and said his goodbyes afterwards to the fans

hyn-zie

That sucks a$$, serious punk and taker's fued will be good, but undertaker will retire afer wrestlemania cause he can't afford any more hip replacements so he has to make sure he lasts until then!!!!

liam09

punk is cheap come on taker

flahavaj

Would have to disagree with you strongly EdK. While Jeff is relatively young at the age of 31, his body has to be in absolute ribbons at this stage. Hes been taking hellacious bumps on a more regular basis for a decade now, in fact his entire gimmick is based around doing so.

I can never understand paople who would condemn people like him or indeed the Rock for choosing their health over wrestling. Perhaps Jeff would like to be able to play with his kids when he's in his fifties instead of being in a wheel chair? Perhaps he doesn't wnat to have arthritis before hes fifty and the fifetime of chronic pain that goes with it, or have two false hips like Hogan at his age? How many guys like Benoit or Dynamite Kid or Hayabusa or even Angle have to turn out so tragically before people realise that wrestling is an insanely dangerous business to be in and which takes an appalling physical toll on your body and indeed brain. Anyone who has the good sense to walk away from it with their marbles intact and their body in reasonable shape is to be applauded for having the cop on to do so, not condemned IMHO.

pingu_girl

wicked pills

EdK

While I completely agree on the health and risk issue, his attitude pisses me off so much he's been given so many shots despite being unbelievably unreliable, by right he should have never gotten near a world title and now he is going to walk out and come back whenever he can be arsed

Sorry I'm not buying it

Rjd2

EdK wrote: »

IMO Jeff Hardy is an idiot, he's just walked away from the hottest run he's ever had and might ever have again because they may never give him the ball again, He was literally on top of the game but chose to pack it all in, in favour of painting a few pictures and riding his bike

He is 31 years old wrestling is his job, not just a hobby, even if he stuck at until 35 he could have had a hugely successful run and retired early in a very comfortable position

But no he's thrown everything he built away because he's tired or burned out or whatever, he knew what he had signed upto when he came back

In short I think he's blown everything and is a big crybaby

People said the same when he was suspended last year and they turned out to be very wrong. The bottom line is Jeff Hardy is money. He sells a ton of merchandise and is probably the most over person on the whole roster bar Taker and maybe Cena. Vince is not an idiot he knows he is lacking stars so why on earth would he not use Jeff properly when he comes back. ?

Jeff will be fine when he comes back and he knows it, while us on the Internet may be looking forward to Edge's return more, we know who the children will prefer to come back to the WWE.

They are the ones who make Vince his millions and Vince most certainty will not ignore them.

Jeff is to profitable to be rotting in the mid card and Vince knows that.

savemejebus

EdK wrote: »

While I completely agree on the health and risk issue, his attitude pisses me off so much he's been given so many shots despite being unbelievably unreliable, by right he should have never gotten near a world title and now he is going to walk out and come back whenever he can be arsed

Sorry I'm not buying it

Sorry but that comes off like he was given everything on a silver platter. From what i can see he wasn't 'given so many shots', he worked his arse off and has without a doubt sacrificed a lot of comfort in later life to 'earn' those shots.

One shouldn't forget that Hardy's push and success came about despite rather than because of office plans. The fans reaction to him is what determined his shots, not the office having plans for him. He's the total opposite of what is seen as a main eventer in wwe sizewise and in terms of being 'a company man' like cena.

Look at koslov, khali and the other monsters that wwe attempted to force down the audiences throats. If you were talking about them, or even Bobby Lashley, I could agree, but I don't think Jeff was handed anything. He's over because of working hard, and being hugely popular with the fans. It wasn't the creative office writing good storylines for him and pushing him from the start that got him over. He got himself over to a point where the office couldn't ignore him or the fans and had two choices, take him to the next level or lose out on the opportunity to cash in off of his hard work and sweat.

Doing that is no mean feat, and as far as i'm concerned he's earned the right to do whatever he wants.

JP Liz

Jeff returns as a surprise entry into Royal Rumble 2010 and wins and goes on to face Bryan Danielson for WWE title at Wrestlemania 2010 - i can dream

Melion

I cant believe people are condemning him for walking away now. Would you rather log on one morning in 3-4 years and see that he has died in a hotel room, i.e Eddie?

Utopia Parkway

Him taking a break now could extend his career. Give his body time to rest and heal properly and when he comes back it is guaranteed to be a big deal. He's not like most of the other guys. He has taken by far some of the worst bumps in the entire company and they take a serious toll on the body.

EdK

Melion wrote: »

I cant believe people are condemning him for walking away now. Would you rather log on one morning in 3-4 years and see that he has died in a hotel room, i.e Eddie?

That sensationalism is somewhat acceptable if he was walking away for good but give it six months to a year he'll be back to jump off more ladders

Fozzy

Jeff's attitude has been great. He's performed as good as he ever has in the last few months. Wrestling obviously isn't his number one passion in life though and you can't fault him for that

I think that it's telling too that the other wrestlers are happy for him to be taking time off like this. I haven't heard of any resentment towards him from within the company

flahavaj

Again, whats the harm in him taking 6 months off? As savemejebus said, hes had a long hard road to the top of WWE. And he made it there in spite of rather than because of his booking. They literally HAD to push him to the top of card because of the his amazing popularity, hes easily their most popular guy at the moment bar none.

Theres no denying that Jeff has had a questionable attitude in the past (and I've been his harshest critic in the world for that), but to me hes a guy who made many mistakes in the past, but has grown as a person and learned from them. Hes never been as good as he has been this past year and thats mainly down to him applying himself properly and making the most of his undoubted talent. Most admirable of all has been the way he has worked his ass off onthe way out the door. Most guys would have coasted along until the time came to leave. But instead he has near killed himself these last coulpe of weeks to made Punk look as good as possible both at Summerslam and on RAW the other night. From what I've read WWE have been hugely impresed with his work ethic and have even been raving about his performances on house shows. Others coud learn from his example to be honest, I'm looking at the likes of Goldberg and Lesnar in particular who completely half assed ther last matches with the company.

If it is 6 months hes taking off (and no one knows for sure how long it actually will be), then 6 months of pure rest could easily add years to his career. It would certainly give him the chance to rest up those niggling injuries that never heal when your working 250+ nights a year. I've actually been saying for a long time that WWE should give each of their Main Event stars exactly this kind of rest on a regular basis and rotate them around. OK you lose a few stars on a short term basis, but if it recharges their batteries and extends their careers, surely thats got to be well worth it?

Certainly his Main Event spot isn't in danger, he'll be even more over on his return and the Main Event scene is likely to be without HBK and Taker for a start.

Penn

I definitely agree that he should take time off before he does more harm than good. I just think that 'retire' is a strong word. If he is retiring, that should mean that he never intends to come back.

Taking 6 months off to have a break could have been done quietly, without all the will he/won't he. A kayfabe injury from the TLC match to put him out of action for a few months until he decides to come back.

Fozzy

paddyirishman85 wrote: »

Taking 6 months off to have a break could have been done quietly, without all the will he/won't he. A kayfabe injury from the TLC match to put him out of action for a few months until he decides to come back.

Where was the will he/won't he? Dave Meltzer reported months ago that it was Jeff's intention to leave when his contract was up and he never changed that story. WWE never mentioned it and I guess it was only Matt who tried making people believe that Jeff would be sticking around

The only will he/won't he stuff came from people who dared to doubt Meltzer :pac:

Snakeblood

EdK wrote: »

That sensationalism is somewhat acceptable if he was walking away for good but give it six months to a year he'll be back to jump off more ladders

He worked his contract, then he didn't re-sign. He's rich enough to decide what he wants to do with his life. He has a chance to heal and play with his crappy band if he likes, after working his arse off for most of the last ten years.What exactly do you want from him?

Edit: Should he stay until no one cares about him any more?