Advice pls is this value specialized Allez comp

biggus

Is this value @ 750 ?


http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/bicycles/966543

copacetic

it's reasonable value, it looks like its a few years old, but at the time the quoted rrp is about right.

biggus

Thanks for that So at 500 be worth a punt ?

niceonetom

Good God NOOOOOOO!

€750 is WILDLY ambitious. €500 is still more than it's worth in my estimation.

It may have cost €2400, but that was a fair few years ago - if it's 18 speed ultegra then it's pre 2005 (I think) - and that's enough time to need new bearings throughout and things like cables, cassette, chainrings etc etc will be questionable.

At the end of the day it's a second hand alu bike with a 9 speed drivetrain. -> I'd consider paying €300.

Look at what you can get new for the money he's asking - that's what he's competing with, not the original RRP.

copacetic

it all depends on how much use it has. the above may be true, but it appears to have the original saddle in good conditon and all original equipment which would be unlikely if it was as well used as above suggests. Ilooks to have the aerotec frame with carbon seat stays, carbon forks, carbon seatpost with zetz insert etc and full ultegra including wheels (with stickers still on them, they don't last long if in constant use). Thats a much better spec and bike that you can get for the price new. Certainly €500 would be a good value purchase imo.

niceonetom

Maybe it's worth 500 of your euros, it's not worth that many of mine.

OP - the ad says nothing about size - it really, really matters what size it is. A road bike is like a pair of shoes that way.

Lumen

The way I look at depreciation is that one day it'll be almost worthless, and it has to get there sooner or later.

I reckon a bike loses 25% as soon as it leaves the shop, then about a third of it's value each year, eventually converging on somewhere around 6% of it's new price*.

Here is my attempt at a depreciation model:

New price|€2,400|€1,000
2009|€1,800|€750
2008|€1,204|€502
2007|€822|€343
2006|€578|€241
2005|€422|€176
2004|€322|€134
2003|€258|€107
2002|€217|€90
2001|€191|€79
2000|€174|€72
1999|€163|€68


This gives a price of around €320 for bike that cost €2400 new in 2004.

Obviously condition will vary the value somewhat.

In other words, I agree with Tom in a needlessly complicated fashion.

* These facts have been revealed to me in the runes at the bottom of my brandy glass.

Raam

Lumen wrote: »

stuff

pure genius

DualFrontDiscs

Lumen wrote: »

New price|€2,400|€1,000
2009|€1,800|€750
2008|€1,204|€502
2007|€822|€343
2006|€578|€241
2005|€422|€176
2004|€322|€134
2003|€258|€107
2002|€217|€90
2001|€191|€79
2000|€174|€72
1999|€163|€68

That looks like an appreciation model!