Ryanair pulling out of Manchester

civildefence

O'Leary and Co. give up landing privileges over penny pinching. No loss IMO.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8205445.stm

Seaneh

Er, except for all the jobs that the region loses because of it...

Ryanair are right in this case imho.

civildefence

Seaneh wrote: »

Er, except for all the jobs that the region loses because of it...

Ryanair are right in this case imho.

The loss of jobs excepted.
I hate them, i'm sorry but I utterly hate them and I'd love to see them getting their comeuppance. They have destroyed my soul on so many occasions. It'd be great to see an airline like Aer Arann coming in there and growing its operations.

Fratton Fred

Pulling out of Feurteventura was the fault of the tourist board, pulling out of valencia was because unfair subsidies were given to a rival airline, cutting down at Stansted was the fault of the airport, as was cutting right down on flights from manchester.

the whole world must be against Ryanair, or they are doing something wrong.

Tabnabs

If you ran an airline and customer numbers were down to the extent that it was no longer profitable to run a route, what would you do...

civildefence

Dyflin wrote: »

If you ran an airline and customer numbers were down to the extent that it was no longer profitable to run a route, what would you do...

Yet they always waffle on about how small Aer Lingus is and how they "can't survive". They are in the same boat and yet Aer Lingus has no issue with the landing charges in Manchester.

Tenger

Dyflin wrote: »

If you ran an airline and customer numbers were down to the extent that it was no longer profitable to run a route, what would you do...

Pax numbers on their routes ex-MAN are not down too much. FR are just trying to get the most return on their routes by bullying airports to drop their fees. Most smaller airports must accept the terms demanded by FR,however MAN as a larger airport can afford to refuse to bow to the demands of FR.

Notice how FR aren't dropping the lucrative DUB-MAN route,I think its their 4th most profitable. How can that be when the fees at MAN are so high? And don't they call DUB a 'high charges' airport too?

silverharp

at least they wont have to listen:D to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1KnBmFDrZY

Bluetonic

civildefence wrote: »

Yet they always waffle on about how small Aer Lingus is and how they "can't survive". They are in the same boat and yet Aer Lingus has no issue with the landing charges in Manchester.

They have no issue with it, is that right?

civildefence

Bluetonic wrote: »

They have no issue with it, is that right?

They're paying it aren't they?

alpha2zulu

It was reported on another travel news (Travel gazette I think) site that the disagreement centred on FR refusing Manchesters offer of a 3GBP charge per departing passenger which seems to be great value given Manchesters position as a established and well connected airport.

Bear in mind that out of that 3 quid,all firefighting/rescue, security and airfield personnel have to be paid for aswell as upkeep and cleaning of the terminals etc so its not exactly an unreaonable charge.

highlydebased

Cawley said not so long ago "they have a problem accepting anything thats not free at the moment...."...

unfortunately thats what happened at Shannon....paying 1 euro or whatever per pax then looking to milk the SAA by asking for free fees for the winter which they thankfully didnt give

Well I say fair play to manchester for givin them the 2 fingers anyway!!

Bluetonic

civildefence wrote: »

They're paying it aren't they?

I just want to clarify your statement.

They have no issue, is that correct?

civildefence

Bluetonic wrote: »

I just want to clarify your statement.

They have no issue, is that correct?

Why don't you enlighten us. You obviously want to tell me i'm wrong. So go ahead and put your two cents in. I don't think my wording will compromise the subject matter of the thread.

N2

Neon-Circles wrote: »

Cawley said not so long ago "they have a problem accepting anything thats not free at the moment...."...

unfortunately thats what happened at Shannon....paying 1 euro or whatever per pax then looking to milk the SAA by asking for free fees for the winter which they thankfully didnt give

Well I say fair play to manchester for givin them the 2 fingers anyway!!

Commercial reality i'm afraid, i would have thought your "research" into long haul op's ex SNN would have confirmed that!

highlydebased

N2 wrote: »

Commercial reality i'm afraid, i would have thought your "research" into long haul op's ex SNN would have confirmed that!

Was not "my" research but indeed thats true