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Sports Clubs

  • 19-08-2009 9:30pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭


    I'm going to Trinity this year and I was just wondering what the story was with joining the sports clubs? I want to join a few and I'm wondering do you have to be at a certain level in the respective sports or can complete beginers join? Can you join them just to play and have fun without being too serious? Thanks for any replies


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 359 ✭✭t0mm


    During fresher's week most clubs and societies will have stands in front square where you can go up and join. Entry costs between €2 and €4 usually. I can't think of a single club that doesn't take beginners, in fact I can't think of a reason why a club wouldn't take beginners. In fact I'm pretty sure they have to take beginners. The rifle club definately takes beginners. So does the mountain biking/cycling club. Not I have anything to do with either of those clubs *cough*, just saying that I know for a fact both take beginners :).

    And if you're an incoming first year, JOIN EVERYTHING. It's worth spending €50 (seriously) joining every club that takes your fancy to find that one that suits you :).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭RexMundi


    Just wondering, what is the football team like?
    Are there low committment/ low quality teams in Trinity just to get a bit of footie in in college?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    RD77 wrote: »
    I'm going to Trinity this year and I was just wondering what the story was with joining the sports clubs? I want to join a few and I'm wondering do you have to be at a certain level in the respective sports or can complete beginers join? Can you join them just to play and have fun without being too serious? Thanks for any replies

    College is one of the few times you can join a club as a complete novice. Take boxing, alot of trainers won't even consider you if you're over 21-22 starting out. But in trinity, its no problem, you may even compete. It's a good place for beginners.
    RexMundi wrote: »
    Just wondering, what is the football team like?
    Are there low committment/ low quality teams in Trinity just to get a bit of footie in in college?

    Yes, there's a league. The trinity team is difficult to get onto, but the indoor soccer area is very active with lads just playing each other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,592 ✭✭✭Dante


    Is there a first-year only football team or is it mixed about all the years or what? Also while I'm near the subject, how much is the gym and are you allowed bring guests?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    Trinity FC is a very different animal to playing soccer. I don't know if theres a first years only Trinity team, but I highly doubt it. You pay for gym membership with your registration fee, and you can now bring a guest but they will be raped at the door for all they're material items.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭p1akuw47h5r3it


    Boston wrote: »
    Trinity FC is a very different animal to playing soccer. I don't know if theres a first years only Trinity team, but I highly doubt it. You pay for gym membership with your registration fee, and you can now bring a guest but they will be raped at the door for all they're material items.

    Anyone know if the Tennis club is any good?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭Dr Gradus


    This will be my first year and im wondering if anyone could reccomend a martial art?

    I see they have aikido, judo, karate and tae kwon do?

    Any use? Aikido seems to be my sorta thing but looks like it may be too bogged down in philosophy? Would Karate be the best bet. ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 553 ✭✭✭Futurism


    Dr Gradus wrote: »
    This will be my first year and im wondering if anyone could reccomend a martial art?

    I see they have aikido, judo, karate and tae kwon do?

    Any use? Aikido seems to be my sorta thing but looks like it may be too bogged down in philosophy? Would Karate be the best bet. ?

    I was thinking of joining Judo. The training seems the most practical anyway. Boxing also had me interested.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    Dr Gradus wrote: »
    This will be my first year and im wondering if anyone could reccomend a martial art?

    I see they have aikido, judo, karate and tae kwon do?

    Any use? Aikido seems to be my sorta thing but looks like it may be too bogged down in philosophy? Would Karate be the best bet. ?
    Futurism wrote: »
    I was thinking of joining Judo. The training seems the most practical anyway. Boxing also had me interested.

    Aikido train just before us (Judo) and the philosophy does seems to be a major part of it. I've no idea if that means its bogged down or not. The instructor seems to my untrained eye to know his stuff, but if you're expecting sword fighting, think again.
    Aikido in trinity appears to be a small serious club.

    tae kwon does appears to have several higher level instructors and would be have a rather large membership. Making it good for meeting people. There seems to be a strong emphasis on form and technique.

    Judo is extremely tough. We do fitness and technique training in the first hour or so and then move onto randori including both Newaza and Negawaza. It's essentially a grappling and throwing sport. Some of it will be applicable to real life situation, but a lot honestly wont. We take it seriously in terms of showing respect towards you opponents and the instructors and just generally having the right attitude, but we're not huge on the philosophy behind Judo.

    Jujutsu / Jujitsu Depending on which instructor is giving the lesson it will either focus more on style or more on street fighting, either way whatever you learn will be more practical then the other martial arts. unlike judo there is striking with fists, knees, elbows and feet.

    See website here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 539 ✭✭✭piby


    Most of the individual orientated sports will be welcoming, if not actively seeking, beginners ie. boxing, surfing etc. Some of team sports can be a little harder to get into if you're not up to a certain level. For example, the soccer club has a Freshers team but they only have 18 places AFAIK and up to a 100 people try out! On the other hand rugby, which I played, has 2 U20's teams and 3/4 senior teams so you'll always find your suitable level there. Others like the American Football team have just started up recently and may be worth a look.

    But when you're a fresher I'd go with what others are saying and try nearly everything while you've got the time :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭gamma23


    Is there a first-year only football team or is it mixed about all the years or what? Also while I'm near the subject, how much is the gym and are you allowed bring guests?
    piby wrote: »
    For example, the soccer club has a Freshers team but they only have 18 places AFAIK and up to a 100 people try out! On the other hand rugby, which I played, has 2 U20's teams and 3/4 senior teams so you'll always find your suitable level there.

    Yep, there is a Freshers soccer team and it's pretty competitive to get into the 1st team, there was 2 rounds of trials last year (they still got stuffed by UCD in the end) I think they organised a 2nd team for those who didn't make it though so you could still get involved in that. Other societies run 5 a-side comps though (PhySoc and Pharmacy for example)

    Yeah there are other clubs that do well that you could get into the team as a beginner even. In water polo we always need new players and because we have rolling substitutions they always get a game.
    DanDan6592 wrote: »
    Anyone know if the Tennis club is any good?

    Yeah I know a few people in it, they are quite competitive to sending teams to competitions all over the place, but good for beginners too.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Boston wrote: »
    Trinity FC is a very different animal to playing soccer. I don't know if theres a first years only Trinity team, but I highly doubt it. You pay for gym membership with your registration fee, and you can now bring a guest but they will be raped at the door for all they're material items.

    DU AFC is a very good team. Played with them for 3 years in college and had a blast

    Terry and Jimmy are goose lads. There is a first year team for tournament and same does the seniors.

    The Senior team did well. Won a league and cup double. Great set up there


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭p1akuw47h5r3it


    gamma23 wrote: »
    Yeah I know a few people in it, they are quite competitive to sending teams to competitions all over the place, but good for beginners too.

    Ye dats good cause I'm jus a beginner


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭RD77


    Is there any table tennis in Trinity? If so anyone got any experience with it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Dr Gradus wrote: »
    This will be my first year and im wondering if anyone could reccomend a martial art?
    I see they have aikido, judo, karate and tae kwon do?
    Any use? Aikido seems to be my sorta thing but looks like it may be too bogged down in philosophy? Would Karate be the best bet. ?
    Depends on what you want from the sport.
    I did Aikido for the four years I was an undergrad, and found it fun, very good for coordination, balance, and not breaking my neck coming out of the shower room in the Luce Hall when I stepped on a wet tile and had both feet go out from under me. (in other words, you learn to breakfall really well - better than in judo for my money :D ).

    You won't be sparring inside of four years (and since the first technique usually taught would break your elbow backwards if done wrong in a sparring match, that's a good thing).

    You don't do philosophy much. There's a little on how you don't just stand there and punch each other; there's a little on how when training, there's a degree of cop-on needed (ie. if practicing a form, you don't muck about or people get hurt, usually badly). Beyond that, well, the founder certainly had a lot of philosophy, but you don't see it on the mat in the first few years.

    You *will* get a pretty excellent cardio workout. You *won't* get your nose broken (there was a standing joke back then that if you asked anyone in shotokan how they broke their nose this year, they could tell you ;):D ). In the four years I was there, training twice to three times a week, I saw four injuries; and three of them were either to or from me. I hyperextended my knee during a warmup - and then stupidly trained on it all weekend and didn't walk right for a week; I threw someone badly when training after class and broke his shoulder - again, my stupidity; I was thrown badly and broke/chipped all my teeth - that was more because of a girl who didn't wear underwear; and I saw one of the higher-ranked guys take a throw badly and hurt his knee, but not to the point of tearing anything. Now that's over four years and half it was avoidable if I'd had more cop-on; other sports had far worse safety records.

    Basically, I found it to be fun, safe, a good cardio workout, good for coordination and balance (and oddly, for target shooting as a result).

    But I think the best advice might be to join all four, try them all for a fortnight, then decide!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭Gloom


    Hi, I haven't played Tennis in years but I've vowed to take it up again.

    If I join the TCD one, I'm going to assume they have one, can I just join for fun or is it competitive?

    (I want to play for the exercise and just for the laugh, will also need to be shown how to do stuff again :P)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭p1akuw47h5r3it


    Gloom wrote: »
    Hi, I haven't played Tennis in years but I've vowed to take it up again.

    If I join the TCD one, I'm going to assume they have one, can I just join for fun or is it competitive?

    (I want to play for the exercise and just for the laugh, will also need to be shown how to do stuff again :P)

    Ye I jus want to join to mostly have a laf but to be semi competitive at the same time... I'll have to be shown how to do everything tho!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭Borneo Fnctn


    Why is there no cycling club?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 485 ✭✭AlanSparrowhawk


    Sparks wrote: »
    Depends on what you want from the sport.
    I did Aikido for the four years I was an undergrad, and found it fun, very good for coordination, balance, and not breaking my neck coming out of the shower room in the Luce Hall when I stepped on a wet tile and had both feet go out from under me. (in other words, you learn to breakfall really well - better than in judo for my money :D ).

    You won't be sparring inside of four years (and since the first technique usually taught would break your elbow backwards if done wrong in a sparring match, that's a good thing).

    You don't do philosophy much. There's a little on how you don't just stand there and punch each other; there's a little on how when training, there's a degree of cop-on needed (ie. if practicing a form, you don't muck about or people get hurt, usually badly). Beyond that, well, the founder certainly had a lot of philosophy, but you don't see it on the mat in the first few years.

    You *will* get a pretty excellent cardio workout. You *won't* get your nose broken (there was a standing joke back then that if you asked anyone in shotokan how they broke their nose this year, they could tell you ;):D ). In the four years I was there, training twice to three times a week, I saw four injuries; and three of them were either to or from me. I hyperextended my knee during a warmup - and then stupidly trained on it all weekend and didn't walk right for a week; I threw someone badly when training after class and broke his shoulder - again, my stupidity; I was thrown badly and broke/chipped all my teeth - that was more because of a girl who didn't wear underwear; and I saw one of the higher-ranked guys take a throw badly and hurt his knee, but not to the point of tearing anything. Now that's over four years and half it was avoidable if I'd had more cop-on; other sports had far worse safety records.

    Basically, I found it to be fun, safe, a good cardio workout, good for coordination and balance (and oddly, for target shooting as a result).

    But I think the best advice might be to join all four, try them all for a fortnight, then decide!

    While I respect the fact you enjoy Aikido it is worth noting all you do is spend your time failling down and getting back up again. How this is a good cardio workout I don't know. boxing and judo are much more enjoyable and athletic sports.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    Enjoyment is relative, not everyone enjoys a full on (Note full on as opposed to full) contact sport like Judo, or getting smacked in the head in a sport like boxing. Both require a level of inherent aggressiveness your average person doesn't have. Aikido would never be my cup of tea, but sparks main selling points (good cardio and low injury rates) are accurate.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 485 ✭✭AlanSparrowhawk


    Boston wrote: »
    (good cardio )

    I'll take your word for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    While I respect the fact you enjoy Aikido it is worth noting all you do is spend your time failling down and getting back up again. How this is a good cardio workout I don't know. boxing and judo are much more enjoyable and athletic sports.
    It's a good cardio workout because all you do is spend your time being thrown and getting back up again. And then getting thrown again. And on, and on. And there's no break - it's get thrown, get up, get thrown, get up, get thrown, get up, get thrown, get up, throw, throw, throw, throw, and repeat. The forms where someone ends up pinned are less cardio exertion, but trust me, you're either breaking a good sweat moving about or you're building flexibility by stretching stuff.

    And I did try some judo and some boxing. I'm not saying they're not athletic, but "fun" is a pretty subjective term and frankly I'm one of those people who finds that kind of one-on-one contact sport to be not fun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭Brian


    RD77 wrote: »
    Is there any table tennis in Trinity? If so anyone got any experience with it?

    There is ... but I wasn't able to find them during Freshers' Week last year so never got to join.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Why is there no cycling club?
    Same reason there's no archery club (TCD's the only college in the country that doesn't have one). Not enough student interest and staff support.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    Sparks wrote: »
    Same reason there's no archery club (TCD's the only college in the country that doesn't have one). Not enough student interest and staff support.

    DUCAC limit the number of sports clubs to 50. It doesn't matter how much support a club might have, if there isn't a free slot then it wont get officially recognised. Just look at American football.


  • Posts: 16,720 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    t0mm wrote: »
    The rifle club definately takes beginners. So does the mountain biking/cycling club. Not I have anything to do with either of those clubs *cough*, just saying that I know for a fact both take beginners :).
    Why is there no cycling club?

    There looks like there is indeed a cycling club (and I think it was mentioned before too) but I don't think that they have a website.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Boston wrote: »
    DUCAC limit the number of sports clubs to 50.
    Is that a recent act of stupidity or a legacy act of stupidity? :D
    There are days I'm really glad DUCAC doesn't run sport at a wider level...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    Legacy act of stupidity. It's so they can be selective about the types of sports they allow in trin trin. Everyone hates it, but there's nothing stopping the American Football Club or whomever else attending the DUCAC agm on mass and changing the rules. It would be a lot quicker then waiting around for a slot to free up. From memory there was one new Club accepted last year (might have been The moutain biking/Cycling club) bringing the total to 50 after I think windsurfing closed up shop.

    I'm not 100% on those details, I find DUCAC politics even more boring then SU politics, but the 50 club max figure is accurate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭tennessee time


    is the gaelic football team as good as ucd??? , my friend is going to ucd and i wanna play against him and hammer them, i heard ucd are good though


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭gamma23


    Sparks wrote: »
    There are days I'm really glad DUCAC doesn't run sport at a wider level...
    Most people have these days, some more often then others.

    Boston wrote: »
    Everyone hates it, but there's nothing stopping the American Football Club or whomever else attending the DUCAC agm on mass and changing the rules.
    oooooo the powers at be won't like this, encouraging a revolution against the hallowed DUCAC are we now?????
    is the gaelic football team as good as ucd??? , my friend is going to ucd and i wanna play against him and hammer them, i heard ucd are good though
    +1 we all wanna hammer ucd, unfortunately only 1 fresher in trinity will get a scholarship and ucd have 2 panels full of academy players on scholarships. they do have a third team though and we were up at half time against their Freshers 2nd's this year so it depends what team he gets into.
    As a general principle assume UCD have better teams in everything until proved wrong (blame DUCAC everyone else does) and then when you get to fight play them fight to prove yourself wrong. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭shay_562


    Seemed easier to bring this thread back up than start a new one - random question about sports clubs, I remember hearing ages back (sometime around the gym levy referendum) that postgrads aren't automatically members of DUCAC and have to pay extra for the privilege, and in order to officially join sports clubs. Can any postgrads shed any light on how true that is? Tried finding it on the DUCAC website but it seems to be a little ****ed at the moment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    Nope, you're thinking of staff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 485 ✭✭AlanSparrowhawk


    I can't help you with your exact question. But I was under the impression that general members of the gym (students, staff, graduates and other) are entitled to par take in club activities. Obviously participation in Intervarsities etc. is still only available for people who are students (either under or post-grad).

    I've never heard that post-grads are in any way different to undergrads in the eyes of ducac.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 485 ✭✭AlanSparrowhawk


    is the gaelic football team as good as ucd??? , my friend is going to ucd and i wanna play against him and hammer them, i heard ucd are good though

    UCD's premier gaa team are an order of magnitude greater than TCDs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    I can't help you with your exact question. But I was under the impression that general members of the gym (students, staff, graduates and other) are entitled to par take in club activities. Obviously participation in Intervarsities etc. is still only available for people who are students (either under or post-grad).

    I've never heard that post-grads are in any way different to undergrads in the eyes of ducac.

    You need to be a member of ducac to join a club. Staff can/were able to pay a reduced rate to gain access to gym facilities and not clubs. If I recall correctly the cost of joining ducac was several hundred euro.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 485 ✭✭AlanSparrowhawk


    Obviously your knowledge is more current than mine. But I distinctly remember stating the point that what's to stop "gym users" using the "sports clubs" and I wasn't told they weren't entitled to join at a DUCAC meeting. From reading this

    http://www.tcd.ie/Sport/index.php?nodeId=5&title=Membership

    they currently aren't accepting public membership (at least not officially) and it's 335 fee for non staff/student members to use clubs. How exactly a club can check if the people on the mat (in our case) have paid this I don't know. Does any of it filter directly to the clubs?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    tbh, I've no idea. It could have been a thing that the special rate was a deal only some staff had.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭shay_562


    Boston wrote: »
    Nope, you're thinking of staff.

    Awesome, cheers!


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