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Order of precedence itch!

  • 19-08-2009 07:03PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666
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    Could some one please explain as it isn't in my maths book what to do with the order of precedence rules when dealing with fractions of fractions that have brackets with some of the terms, and include exponents, further divison, addition and subtraction.

    Example I photo'd and uploaded (it was faster than writing it out onscreen :D )

    19082009348.th.jpg

    Thanks, I'm not looking for an answer to the problem in the image just the way to attack it using the precedence rules, the order confuses me with so much going on...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 298 brophya2007
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    Could some one please explain as it isn't in my maths book what to do with the order of precedence rules when dealing with fractions of fractions that have brackets with some of the terms, and include exponents, further divison, addition and subtraction.

    Example I photo'd and uploaded (it was faster than writing it out onscreen :D )

    19082009348.th.jpg

    Thanks, I'm not looking for an answer to the problem in the image just the way to attack it using the precedence rules, the order confuses me with so much going on...

    Use BIDMAS

    Brackets
    Indices
    Division
    Multiplication
    Addition
    Subtraction


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 271 Clinker
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    Order of precedence won't help you here: a triple-decker fraction is inherently ambiguous, unless brackets are provided to show which division comes first. Sometimes one of the fraction lines is heavier or longer to give some guidance.

    Consider the expression [latex]\frac{12}{\frac{6}{2}}[/latex].

    If we take the top division first, we have

    [latex]\frac{\left(\frac{12}{6}\right)}{2}=\frac{2}{2}=1 [/latex]

    whereas if we take the second division first, we have

    [latex]\frac{12}{\left(\frac{6}{2}\right)} = \frac{12}{3} = 4.[/latex]

    As it can produce two different values, the expression is not well-defined: in other words it's meaningless, unless brackets are provided. As the two operations are the same, order of precedence can't help you: that tells you the order in which you perform different operations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 RoundTower
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    if you see a triple-decker fraction like this you can expect to see one big thick line and one skinny one. In that case the big thick one takes precedence, which means you have to do the other one first.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,326 waraf
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    Use BIDMAS

    Brackets
    Indices
    Division
    Multiplication
    Addition
    Subtraction

    Shouldn't multiplication come before division as in BOMDAS (Brackets Ordinals Multiplication Division Addition Subtraction)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 DropTables


    It doesn't matter
    (3 * 4 )/5 = 3 * (4/5)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_operations


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 charlie_says
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    Thanks ladies and gentlemen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,595 MathsManiac
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    waraf wrote: »
    Shouldn't multiplication come before division as in BOMDAS (Brackets Ordinals Multiplication Division Addition Subtraction)

    No! Multiplication and division have equal precedence, as do addition and subtraction.

    Generally, operations of equal precedence are evaluated from left to right:

    5 + 4 - 2 = (5+4) - 2 = 7
    5 - 4 + 2 = (5-4) + 2 = 3
    5 * 4 / 2 = (5*4) / 2 = 10
    5 / 4 * 2 = (5/4) * 2 = 2.5


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 FirtY


    @waraf I think you'll find it's BODMAS

    Clinker, mathsmaniac & RoundTower have the jist of it


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