3.0 firmware video

RAIN

If anyone hasent seen what the new firmware update is going to look like, take a look at the official vid - here

Premium theme's, avatars, etc etc

Looks like a major leap to gain the revenue they are going to lose from the price drop from downloadable junk!

AlmightyCushion

Anything about mkv support?

RAIN

Not that I'm aware of.

AlmightyCushion

Bah! Guess it's a good thing. I bought a dell studio hybrid specifically for playing mkvs and if they enabled support now I'd probably be pissed.

CombatCow

Looks like a nice update, looking forward to it.....


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dmcg90

It's out on September 1st if anyone wants to know!

marko91

dmcg90 wrote: »

It's out on September 1st if anyone wants to know!

how do u know?cos i searched and searched and found no info:(hope your right...alota good updates in it especialy the animated themes ill be looking up allps3themes site alot when the update is out:cool:

lendrew1

Will there be cross-game voice chat? If so the xbox is finished:D

Kev_ps3

animated themes look really good

Mossy Monk

lendrew1 wrote: »

Will there be cross-game voice chat? If so the xbox is finished:D

Can someone explain what cross-game voice chat is and what makes it so wow.

amacachi

Wow, never felt so overcome with an urge to say "meh" while watching a youtube video.

Just hope it speeds things up.

Otacon

Mossy Monk wrote: »

Can someone explain what cross-game voice chat is and what makes it so wow.

The ability to chat with friends whether they are in your game or not. Doesn't affect me as the only time I want to talk to people is when I am playing with/against them, but for some, it appears to matter a great deal.

I actually think this is a great update. I started a thread ages ago about what people would like in the next firmware. A revamped friends list and ability to see if you have new messages came up a lot so it looks like they are listening [though this should have been in all along]

Mossy Monk

Otacon wrote: »

The ability to chat with friends whether they are in your game or not. Doesn't affect me as the only time I want to talk to people is when I am playing with/against them, but for some, it appears to matter a great deal.

I see. It gets a big meh from me.

noodler

I think it is a crap update. Almost purely cosmetic and shiny to distract people from the fact they have done f*** all but stick in more ads for the PS Store.

wcarey1975

Any improvment is a welcome bonus. After all it's still free to play opline once you get the console. Small improvements are better than either no improvements or subscription based improvements.

eddhorse

wcarey1975 wrote: »

Any improvment is a welcome bonus. After all it's still free to play opline once you get the console. Small improvements are better than either no improvements or subscription based improvements.

I agree, people give out about the free update every time there is one. At least they are doing something !! Take Apple for example they charge for ipod updates every now and again. €10 for weather, notes and stocks in update 2.0 i think it was. What a pile of plop.

This coincides nicely with the release of the PS3 slim...

Leiva

O.K I wont be greedy ..Yes it is free , BUT !


a) New shortcuts to the PSN Store all all menus:rolleyes:

b) New sparkly graphics on XMB:rolleyes:

c)New themes that move :rolleyes:

d)new avatars (some u need to pay for):rolleyes:

Thats all that 3.0 is all about , purely aesthetic changes , no software changes no .mkv support .

Dont get me wrong i like my aesthetics aswell but I am only on the desktop for no more than 30secs before i load a game or site or Disc .

No great improvments from me , just to be seen to do something if you ask me , I would say these improvements would have not taken more than a week to develop.

M.

amacachi

mixednuts wrote: »

O.K I wont be greedy ..Yes it is free , BUT !


a) New shortcuts to the PSN Store all all menus:rolleyes:

b) New sparkly graphics on XMB:rolleyes:

c)New themes that move :rolleyes:

d)new avatars (some u need to pay for):rolleyes:

Thats all that 3.0 is all about , purely aesthetic changes , no software changes no .mkv support .

Dont get me wrong i like my aesthetics aswell but I am only on the desktop for no more than 30secs before i load a game or site or Disc .

No great improvments from me , just to be seen to do something if you ask me , I would say these improvements would have not taken more than a week to develop.

M.

That's pretty much what I'm thinking, can't see anything that justifies an x.0 number attached to it.

GothPunk

amacachi wrote: »

That's pretty much what I'm thinking, can't see anything that justifies an x.0 number attached to it.

Sony's updates don't work like that though, all the biggest PS3 firmware updates have been decimal points, like when in-game XMB came with 2.40.

I like the look of 3.0, I like the fact that there is now a message notification and friend icon at the top right of the XMB. The 'What's New' section will also list your recently played games so it has some other functionality besides 'ads'.

Edit: Here's a video that explains some of the features and show off a PixelJunk Monsters theme and shows how the 'What's New' section works.

eddhorse

Good link Gothpunk, as he says in the video :
"to improve your playstation network experience"

Give the MKV support some time.

I agree though that you should be able move your icons around and customize your XMB anyways, that isnt hard surely to create shortcuts for the PS Store in all menus. And dont call me Shirley.

AIR-AUSSIE

mixednuts wrote: »

O.K I wont be greedy ..Yes it is free , BUT !


a) New shortcuts to the PSN Store all all menus:rolleyes:

b) New sparkly graphics on XMB:rolleyes:

c)New themes that move :rolleyes:

d)new avatars (some u need to pay for):rolleyes:

Thats all that 3.0 is all about , purely aesthetic changes , no software changes no .mkv support .

Dont get me wrong i like my aesthetics aswell but I am only on the desktop for no more than 30secs before i load a game or site or Disc .

No great improvments from me , just to be seen to do something if you ask me , I would say these improvements would have not taken more than a week to develop.

M.

Why no complete revamp of the music system?

GothPunk

AIR-AUSSIE wrote: »

Why no complete revamp of the music system?

These are incremental updates, who knows what the next year will bring firmware wise. The Slim will surely bring a larger user-base so who knows if that will effect what they add. What in your opinion is wrong with the music system? Do you mean how stuff is arranged? The newest PSP firmware enabled music to be stored in sub folders, so you could have 'Artist - Album - Track' instead of just 'Artist - Tracks' so that would be a good thing for the PS3 to add. Sony did release a Photo Album app so it's likely they could add a music app as well. Unfortunately the 'ignorant masses' scream the loudest for cross game voice chat so if Sony really listen to the userbase they may be focusing on that. You should just ask Sony for what you want, there are two official PlayStation blogs for example that seem to be a good platform for that.

People complained about there not being a more visible friend and message notification icon. 3.0 has it.

noodler

I have plenty of issues with the music system. Why can the PS3 only go off and find album art for CD's it is ripping itself? Why can't it do it for an album I am importing via USB?

Why can't it support higher quality WMAs? Highest I can currently go to is 192. I would have loved some kind of lossless support other than wav becasue WAV files don't retain track/artist/art info so upon importing them you just have 15-odd anonymous tracks.

Also, why can't pads charge on standby? There are third party perphirals available which allow this.

I don't think this update warrents a 3.0 status either although it is bigger than the last few nothing ones.

marko91

this is a great update the animated themes are gonna be amazing:Dnew friends list tab thingy nice...only bad thing is why add so many ps store shortcutsjesus thats stupid you only need one! hopefully you can delete the new shortcuts and just have the original 1

marko91

by the way does anyone have a definate release date?

CombatCow

September 1'st


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Leiva

So i am guessing .mkv support from Sony will be a bit like RON JEREMY ....


......A long time coming !

noodler

mixednuts wrote: »

So i am guessing .mkv support from Sony will be a bit like RON JEREMY ....


......A long time coming !

Thats disgusting.

James74

I'll be happy if they just move the clock so the battery icon icon isn't blocking it!

GothPunk

James74 wrote: »

I'll be happy if they just move the clock so the battery icon icon isn't blocking it!

That's confirmed fixed in 3.0.

marko91

all i keep hearing is cross game chat and .mvk file support or watever....what IS .mvk and why on earth would u wana talk to someone playing a different game than u?its retarted

noodler

.mkv is a video file type which is capable of HD I believe. People say Sony don't wanna implement it on the PS3 for Piracy reasons (Blu Ray conflict of interest etc) but I really think thats p***ing into the wind if true.

I don't actually know what I want from a major firmware update. No idea if BC is possible in that way for a start and not top pushed about .mkv given the increased file size.

amacachi

noodler wrote: »

.mkv is a video file type which is capable of HD I believe. People say Sony don't wanna implement it on the PS3 for Piracy reasons (Blu Ray conflict of interest etc) but I really think thats p***ing into the wind if true.

I don't actually know what I want from a major firmware update. No idea if BC is possible in that way for a start and not top pushed about .mkv given the increased file size.

mkv is actually just a container. HD is possible in plenty of ways but for some reason people ripping HD movies are insistent on including subtitles, multiple audio streams etc. They can be included in regular avi files so I really don't get why mkv is being favoured so much.

marko91

ahh i see i see....i wouldnt mind mkv support then since i got like 80 dvd quality movies from stgaevu:pwouldnt mind a few blurays for when i get a HDTV

noodler

amacachi wrote: »

mkv is actually just a container. HD is possible in plenty of ways but for some reason people ripping HD movies are insistent on including subtitles, multiple audio streams etc. They can be included in regular avi files so I really don't get why mkv is being favoured so much.

Cool so you can have HD avis but they'd just be massive?

amacachi

noodler wrote: »

Cool so you can have HD avis but they'd just be massive?

Like I said, mkv is only a container, not a codec. An mkv will usually be the same size as an avi when they're ripped with the same codec. avi is only a container too, it's not that important to the file size.

thebman

marko91 wrote: »

all i keep hearing is cross game chat and .mvk file support or watever....what IS .mvk and why on earth would u wana talk to someone playing a different game than u?its retarted

MKV is a video format very popular for HD videos.

You'd want to talk to someone playing a different game than you for many reasons.

Your friends and are both online and want to talk to arrange a meet up but don't want to quit the game your playing in order to do that. You are about to start a multi-player game and want to let the other person know your turning up because you arranged to before hand.

You want to have a private chat even though your playing the same game as you don't want the whole public chat in game crowd to know about how your day at the bank was and how the security guy always turns up late on Friday :P

marko91

thebman wrote: »

MKV is a video format very popular for HD videos.

You'd want to talk to someone playing a different game than you for many reasons.

Your friends and are both online and want to talk to arrange a meet up but don't want to quit the game your playing in order to do that. You are about to start a multi-player game and want to let the other person know your turning up because you arranged to before hand.

You want to have a private chat even though your playing the same game as you don't want the whole public chat in game crowd to know about how your day at the bank was and how the security guy always turns up late on Friday :P

thats what mobile phones are for:Pwhat i really want is in game music and better music/movie sorting

Varik

marko91 wrote: »

thats what mobile phones are for:Pwhat i really want is in game music and better music/movie sorting

Among the many features included in the July (08) released firmware 2.40 in-game music was one of them. but there have been very few games to take advantage of this feature

Varik

divx 7 includes mkv support so if the ps3(divx6) get updated to divx7 we get Matroska .

as sony only let each container have set codecs divx 7 will be set with these

taken from http://www.divx.com

With its unique ability to store multiple formats and media features (subtitles, audio tracks, etc.) in a single container, MKV has quickly gained in popularity — becoming the preferred file extension for high definition (HD) video. Millions of online videos use the .mkv file extension, with more coming every day.

Advanced Audio Coding (AAC), the preferred audio format for high definition videos, is a substantial improvement on the well-known MP3 format and has become the standard for high-quality digital audio.
The AAC standard is the perfect complement to the H.264 video technology that powers DivX® 7, providing superior audio to match the HD video on your computer, in your living room or on the go.

H.264 is the new standard for high definition (HD) digital video, and for good reason. A codec based on the H.264 standard compresses a digital video file so that it only uses half the space of MPEG-2 (the DVD standard), to deliver the same quality video. This means you can enjoy stunning HD video the way it was meant to be seen without sacrificing speed or performance.

Initial support for SSA and ASS subtitles which can either be stored within the MKV file or externally

ordered chapters allows you to encode the opening and/or ending sequences of a series into a file of their own, and then have the opening and ending automagically inserted into each episode at the appropriate places. This saves space, because instead of encoding the OP/ED into every episode, they are only encoded once, so the main episode can be made smaller.

marko91

Varik wrote: »

Among the many features included in the July (08) released firmware 2.40 in-game music was one of them. but there have been very few games to take advantage of this feature

was it?oh well thats gay!id like to be able to press ps button on any game anywhere and play any music file:mad:cos in game music makes burnout paradise still good:D

marko91

Varik wrote: »

mkv is a container that can have multiple audio,video and Subtitles in diff codecs.

divx 7 includes mkv support so if the ps3(divx6) get updated to divx7 we get it.

so that means we can play stagevu.com movies?without having to download them ye?

Varik

marko91 wrote: »

was it?oh well thats gay!id like to be able to press ps button on any game anywhere and play any music file:mad:cos in game music makes burnout paradise still good:D

Astro-Tripper - does it both ways

Burn Zombie Burn - 1.02 patch

Comet Crash

Crash Commando

Crystal Defenders

echochrome 1.02 patch

Ferrari Challenge

Flock

Ghostbusters

King of Fighters XII - can't use playlists

PixelJunk Eden - Must beat the game before it unlocks

PixelJunk Monsters

High Velocity Bowling

Killzone 2 - online

Penny Arcade Adventures: Episode One

Penny Arcade Adventures: Episode Two

Rock Band 2 - only during menus.

Skate 2 - recent update

Ski-Doo Snowmobile Challenge

Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection

Sonic Unleashed

Street Fighter IV - offline only

Magic Ball - patch on 4/16/09

Mahjong Tales

Marvel vs. Capcom 2

Midnight Club Los Angeles

Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe

MotorStorm: Pacific Rift

Noby Noby Boy

NovaStrike

Warhawk



Games that support Custom Soundtracks Their Own Way



Burnout: Paradise

Legends of Wrestlemania

LittleBIGPlanet - 1.12 patch - in create mode and in your Pod

MLB 08: The Show

MLB 09: The Show

NBA '09

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Pain

Pro Evolution Soccer 2009

Savage Moon

Super Stardust HD

Super Sonic Acrobatic Rocket-Powered Battle Cars

Shaun White Snowboarding

WipeOut HD

WWE Smackdown vs. Raw 2009

Zen Pinball

Varik

marko91 wrote: »

so that means we can play stagevu.com movies?without having to download them ye?

streaming is still downloading but when you exit the web browser the file is gone.

the ps3 web browser does not support divx in the web browser.

but you can download the video then play it with the web browser

hover over the download icon on the video press triangle then file and save target

eddhorse

Varik,
Thanks for the update on DivX, i dont think a lot of people know that DivX7 will include mkv compatability. Thats good news.

Also the in game music thing is a joke alright, i have warhawk which is great for your own tunes. I was under the impression that all games after that 2.4 update would support it, joke IMHO.

Gummy Panda

eddhorse wrote: »

I was under the impression that all games after that 2.4 update would support it, joke IMHO.

Its something to do with an MS patent i believe. I remember someone posting about how sony to be careful what they do with XMB as MS have a lot features patented.

thebman

Yeah I think they have it patented which is quite sad. It isn't great on 360 anyway TBH.

Its better for a game to have an actual good sound track that has picked tracks that would suit the game.

Otherwise you might as well make your own playlist for each game yourself from your own tracks. However, you can't make playlists on 360 with content from external drives and so the feature is next to useless IMHO.