Bad Energy In House

DigiGal

Hey Guys, dunno if I'm the right forum here, feel free to move it mods.

So I just moved back into my grandparents house and I'm starting to feel very sick etc all the time
Sometimes In my room I feel suffocated, I'm always tired no matter how much I sleep and I have no energy or motivation. I seem to be having bizzare nightmares every night and can't sleep until around 5 in the morning. I felt this way before I moved out but I thouht it was just nerves during my Leaving Cert.

At first I thought it was just me then my OH told me he always feels really sick in my house too, headaches and stomach aches that get better the minute he gets home.

I'm just wondering is it possible if tehre is a bad spirit or energy in the house. I'll give you some house history...
My mam died in the room below me last year it was unexpected.My great grandmother and grandfather both from heart attack aswell as my nannies 3 year old brother from measles.
My great grandmother was beaten and abused by her 2nd husband who died in his sleep in my room. he was an evil man, and the only one that died wher I sleep.

Any help is appreciated...Thanks!

iamhunted

its much more likely to do with the natural environment in some way. is there a gas leakage, high radon, insufficently insulated electrical cabling etc etc. I'd look in that direction first. Sorry to hear about your mam btw

Oryx

First off, do check for physical causes. Carbon monoxide is a big one, make sure all gas appliances have been serviced. Id be concerned if its making multiple people sick that its not spiritual/bad energy. Sensitive people can be affected by places, but for so many to be affected, it could be all kinds of things in the house, particularly if its old and damp.

Sometimes if youve ruled out everything else, it can be worth investigating the 'energy' of the place, but please dont pay someone shed loads of money to 'cleanse' your house. Its really not necessary, if you want to you can do all thats required yourself.

Emme

You might consider getting a dowser or diviner to check out the house for geopathic stress.

Overblood

Emme I've been researching Geopathic stress for the last while and there isn't even a wiki entry on it. Could you explain what it is?

One website says that that when you build a house over an underground water stream, the water's magnetic energy is disrupted, thus causing bad vibrations in the household. These vibrations are what make people sick. Water has feck all magnetism though. So that's that explanation gone out the windi.

Another cause of geopathic stress is when houses are built on "Ley Lines". This causes the Ley Lines to split up into their component rays, which in turn harm humans. Ley Lines are invisible channels of energy, which UFOs use as highways. I must say I'm slightly skeptical...

DigiGal, how about investing in an Energia 7700 Geopathic Stress alleviation system? They cost about 500euro. More info on them here:

http://www.positiveenergy.ie/GS/Products.htm

Emme

Overblood wrote: »

Another cause of geopathic stress is when houses are built on "Ley Lines". This causes the Ley Lines to split up into their component rays, which in turn harm humans. Ley Lines are invisible channels of energy, which UFOs use as highways. I must say I'm slightly skeptical...

Geopathic stress has nothing to do with UFOs as far as I know but then I don't believe that UFOs are anything other than flying Chinese lanterns or secret military operations.

Scientific research has been carried out on earth radiation. In 1951, the physician and radiesthesist Dr. Ernst Hartmann discovered a radiation grid surrounding the earth. He called it the "global-net grid". Today it is called the "Hartmann-grid" or "first grid". See this website for more information:

http://www.biotac-geoline.com/eng/geobiology/hartmanngrid/index.html

Water isn't magnetic in the sense of attracting iron filings, but it does give off some kind of energy. How do dowsers detect underground streams, and how do animals such as elephants know where to locate water? In some countries people would drive sheep onto a potential building site before constructing their house. If the sheep stayed on the site the house got built, if not they looked for another site!

Here is a link to one website which gives an explanation of geopathic stress. Read the case studies, you might find them interesting:
http://www.geopathicstressbuster.com/about-geopathic-stress.htm#whatisgs

Here's another link, no mention of UFOs! The Dulwich Health Society has been doing research on geopathic stress for about 20 years.
http://www.dulwichhealth.co.uk/index.htm

Both websites have contact details where you can get further details on geopathic stress if you or Digigal wishes.

DigiGal

Hey guys I'm looking into all this now.my grandparents reduse to check for Radon etc so i'm going to have to do it myself. I was thinking itmight be something to do with electromagnetic energy

Supertech

The test for radon is non intrusive and involves simply placing radon detectors (supplied by Radiological Protection Institute of Ireland http://www.rpii.ie/radon/) in the room for a period of time. These are then returned to RPII for analysis, and the results sent out to you. There is a small fee.

To be honest, as far as I'm aware, the affects of radon are less obvious and immediate than those you describe.

It is known to be carcinogenic, and that is the reason for radon barriers in our modern houses.

As far as I'm aware the tests for Geopathic stress are similarly non intrusive, but these are less well publicised than radon testing, and are normally carried out by private specialists.

Ciaran500

Emme wrote: »

Scientific research has been carried out on earth radiation. In 1951, the physician and radiesthesist Dr. Ernst Hartmann discovered a radiation grid surrounding the earth.

He found these using dowsing rods, there is nothing scientific about dousing rods and its not accepted by the scientific community so don't call it "scientific research".

Emme wrote: »

how do animals such as elephants know where to locate water?

Elephants find water by memorizing where there has been water and digging in these areas, there's no mystery in that.

Emme

Ciaran500 wrote: »

He found these using dowsing rods, there is nothing scientific about dousing rods and its not accepted by the scientific community so don't call it "scientific research".

I apologise for the wrong use of words, Ciaran. I'm just trying to help DigiGal here.

Overblood

Emme wrote: »

Scientific research has been carried out on earth radiation. In 1951, the physician and radiesthesist Dr. Ernst Hartmann discovered a radiation grid surrounding the earth. He called it the "global-net grid". Today it is called the "Hartmann-grid" or "first grid". See this website for more information:

http://www.biotac-geoline.com/eng/geobiology/hartmanngrid/index.html

Sorry Emme but that is some of the worst "science" I have ever seen. The fact that this Hartmann Grid can only be detected with dowsing rods should send anyone running. Pity it doesn't send people running though... The last paragraph on that page is pretty funny.

Sleeping on a Hartmann-grid leads mostly to muscle cramps. Modern medicine tries to dam these symptoms up by prescribing magnesium. But these symptoms are not necessarily indicating a lack of magnesium, but often their reason lies in the irritant radiation. By the way, Bananas contain magnesium.

LOL!

Also, that site talks about Tachyons and how they can be put to good use, as if Tachyons were actual real things. Tachyons are theoretical particles. They only exist in Star Trek at the moment.

That site is one EPIC piece of baloney.

Emme wrote: »

Water isn't magnetic in the sense of attracting iron filings, but it does give off some kind of energy.

What kind of energy is this?

Emme wrote: »

How do dowsers detect underground streams,

They can't.

and how do animals such as elephants know where to locate water?

Eh... let me see, they can tap into the psychic crystal powers of water? Is that it?

Or maybe it's because elephants stay close to water sources on purpose, and memorize their locations. They also dig wells. Elephants are pretty smart you know. A lot smarter than the goons who wrote that previous website anyway.

In some countries people would drive sheep onto a potential building site before constructing their house. If the sheep stayed on the site the house got built, if not they looked for another site!

Where the feck is this? Kazakhstan?

Here is a link to one website which gives an explanation of geopathic stress. Read the case studies, you might find them interesting:
http://www.geopathicstressbuster.com/about-geopathic-stress.htm#whatisgs

Yeah the first thing I see on that page is some numpty with two coat hangers getting ready to dowse his garden. It's looking pretty good already. Where are the case studies? Is that link really the best explanation of geopathic stress you can find? It doesn't explain a thing really.

Here's another link, no mention of UFOs! The Dulwich Health Society has been doing research on geopathic stress for about 20 years.
http://www.dulwichhealth.co.uk/index.htm

I don't trust this site. It's disingenuous. Sly. Sneaky. Snake-oil. So this site says that Geopathic Stress causes "sick building syndrome". Then they say that this is an EPA and WHO recognized phenomenon.

Hmmm... so let's look at what the EPA has to say about magic energy vibrations:

Causes of Sick Building Syndrome

• Inadequate ventilation
• Chemical contaminants from indoor sources
• Chemical contaminants from outdoor sources
• Biological contaminants

http://www.epa.gov/iaq/pubs/sbs.html

No mention of vibrational earth water magnetism energies.

But on that Dulchiwealth site, right after they say that Sick Building Syndrome is a WHO recognized phenomenon, they go on to explain that:

[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]The natural frequencies from the earth, which humans cannot live without are interfered with by modem building materials, such as reinforced concrete and plastics, creating Faraday's Cage Syndrome.[/font]

How can they say that the WHO is backing them, then totally make up pure bollox? Very dishonest. I'm not going to read any more of this hogwash. By the way does anyone have any idea what Faraday Cage Syndrome is?

Overblood

By the way, if there was such thing as geopathic stress, wouldn't we all be dead now? I mean we've been living near or on water systems for about 12,000 years, and GP "expert" Rolf Gordon says that geopathic stress causes:

• Cancer, M.E., Asthma, P.M.S., Cot Death & Heart problems.
• Long-term physical & mental illnesses where present treatment does not seem to work.
• Children who are hyperactive - have learning difficulties - difficult to control.
• Children born with defects.
• Long-term stress in relationship/at work.
• Miscarriage, premature birth, not able to conceive & difficult pregnancies.
• Allergy to food & drinks.
• Child Abuse.
• Road Rage

12,000 years of all those symptoms should have obliterated us.

DigiGal

Just to give you some updates...

I got a carbon monoxide alarm all seems to be fine.

I hoovered out all the wardrobe, got rid of all the old stuff, cleaned up, dusted and burned some insense , noticing an improvement

sambuka41

Great to hear that you are noticing an improvement. i think most of the posters here are right in saying that ppl should explaore all physical options first. It might also be worth a mention to say about the psychological side too, im sure it hasnt been easy moving back to a house that holds so many memories for you,happy as well as sad. This may also contribute to someone feeling uneasy.

Just to say that i think it is great that you are open to all the possible explainations. And to the posters that criticised the different explainations surely its more important that OP explores all her options?? Whether they are regarded "scientific" in your eyes or not. This is someones home we are talking about and they have the right to explore every avenue to feel comfortable again. If thats by dowsing rods, blessings, paranormal investigators then what does it matter?

A side note the only way to know if something is going to hold up as a theory is to test it, not shoot it down as rubbish as soon as its mentioned.

Ghost Girl

definitely worth checking out all environmental factors first. Also are you living near any factories that could be polluting the area, are other houses in the area the same? Is there any thing in the water making you ill, is it a well, whats the water supply?? all this stuff needs to be checked. If it was a spirit or negative energy, id say there would be other stuff happening besides feeling ill etc.

doctor evil

sambuka41 people have a responsibility against bad science/absolute quackery as this at the core takes advantage of people and likes to hit them in the pocket.

Overblood

sambuka41 wrote: »

Just to say that i think it is great that you are open to all the possible explainations. And to the posters that criticised the different explainations surely its more important that OP explores all her options?? Whether they are regarded "scientific" in your eyes or not. This is someones home we are talking about and they have the right to explore every avenue to feel comfortable again. If thats by dowsing rods, blessings, paranormal investigators then what does it matter?

A side note the only way to know if something is going to hold up as a theory is to test it, not shoot it down as rubbish as soon as its mentioned.

ZWEI_VIER_ZWEI

I'm kinda surprised that Overblood hasn't been banned by now...

Not that he's been doing anything wrong or anything...

But suggesting any sort of rational inquiry into things and dismissing nonsense as, well, nonsense seems, from personal experience, to be a very fast way to get banned.

suey71

ZWEI_VIER_ZWEI wrote: »

I'm kinda surprised that Overblood hasn't been banned by now...

Not that he's been doing anything wrong or anything...

But suggesting any sort of rational inquiry into things and dismissing nonsense as, well, nonsense seems, from personal experience, to be a very fast way to get banned.

He's a likable rogue.

Overblood

ZWEI_VIER_ZWEI wrote: »

I'm kinda surprised that Overblood hasn't been banned by now...

Not that he's been doing anything wrong or anything...

But suggesting any sort of rational inquiry into things and dismissing nonsense as, well, nonsense seems, from personal experience, to be a very fast way to get banned.

She can investigate her house whatever way she wants, I'm hardy going to be able to stop her. But as other people here have commented, it's better to try and find out if the sickness is due to a proven natural cause like radon or even sick building syndrome! Duncan Stewart style.

Dowsing & evil spirits etc. should really be left till last. Gandalf style.

ZWEI_VIER_ZWEI

Overblood wrote: »

She can investigate her house whatever way she wants, I'm hardy going to be able to stop her. But as other people here have commented, it's better to try and find out if the sickness is due to a proven natural cause like radon or even sick building syndrome! Duncan Stewart style.

Dowsing & evil spirits etc. should really be left till last. Gandalf style.

Oh, I totally agree.

Just, I remember saying something about crystal healing, and getting instab& for questioning people's deeply cherished beliefs on, er, crystal healing.

icbarros

If you're still looking for answers you may want to check if there is any Geopathic Stress lines crossing your room, I think it costs about €300.

I've just finished a post about Geopathic Stress Lines, you can check it here http://isabelbarros.blogs.ie/2009/10/21/why-you-should-check-your-site-or-house-for-geopathic-stress-lines You may finding it interesting and with useful links.

Many argue that Geopathic Stress has no basis in legitimate science and that a variety of modern devices cause the same problems. I let you decide what to do but as they say in Portugal : “I don’t believe in witches, but that they exist, they exist ”. :cool:

Jessica xxx

Overblood wrote: »

Sorry Emme but that is some of the worst "science" I have ever seen. The fact that this Hartmann Grid can only be detected with dowsing rods should send anyone running. Pity it doesn't send people running though... The last paragraph on that page is pretty funny.

LOL!

Also, that site talks about Tachyons and how they can be put to good use, as if Tachyons were actual real things. Tachyons are theoretical particles. They only exist in Star Trek at the moment.

That site is one EPIC piece of baloney.



What kind of energy is this?



They can't.

Eh... let me see, they can tap into the psychic crystal powers of water? Is that it?

Or maybe it's because elephants stay close to water sources on purpose, and memorize their locations. They also dig wells. Elephants are pretty smart you know. A lot smarter than the goons who wrote that previous website anyway.

Where the feck is this? Kazakhstan?

Yeah the first thing I see on that page is some numpty with two coat hangers getting ready to dowse his garden. It's looking pretty good already. Where are the case studies? Is that link really the best explanation of geopathic stress you can find? It doesn't explain a thing really.

I don't trust this site. It's disingenuous. Sly. Sneaky. Snake-oil. So this site says that Geopathic Stress causes "sick building syndrome". Then they say that this is an EPA and WHO recognized phenomenon.

Hmmm... so let's look at what the EPA has to say about magic energy vibrations:

No mention of vibrational earth water magnetism energies.

But on that Dulchiwealth site, right after they say that Sick Building Syndrome is a WHO recognized phenomenon, they go on to explain that:
How can they say that the WHO is backing them, then totally make up pure bollox? Very dishonest. I'm not going to read any more of this hogwash. By the way does anyone have any idea what Faraday Cage Syndrome is?

I think you need to relax a bit there!! Theres no need to tear Emme's head off like that! So what if he/she got some of the facts wrong, BIG WOOP! Get over it........

Leave out the smart remarks lads!!

Longboard

DigiGal wrote: »

At first I thought it was just me then my OH told me he always feels really sick in my house too, headaches and stomach aches that get better the minute he gets home.

How long does it take him to get home?
Is there any relief when you leave the house for extended periods of time?

Try changing bedrooms and leaving the window open (new bed linen) . It might not be a bad idea to go for a routine check up and have a chat with your GP rather than here. He would be better able to diagnose the problem from your symptoms.

stevenmu

ZWEI_VIER_ZWEI wrote: »

I'm kinda surprised that Overblood hasn't been banned by now...

I'm inclined to agree, but luckily I've been able to correct the situation