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Vacant Places Thread

  • 17-08-2009 4:24pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭


    Sure you could use this for any questions on vacant places, as it would be handy for people like me who will be keeping an eye on them.

    Anyway, my questions, say if I see a course with a vacant spot tomorrow, and apply for it and get it, can I then apply for a vacant spot of a course on round two, which will then cancel out my original application for a vacant spot. Get what I mean?

    Also, a fairly general question, but for people who have done the LC before or whatever, do many courses come up on the vacant places list? Anyone know if WIT or CIT use the vacant list often or in previous years?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭manutd4life


    can you apply for a vacant place if you've accepted an offer already?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭aisling.laura


    Do you have to have already applied through cao this year to apply for a vacant place?

    Or can anyone apply, regardless of whether they did the leaving this year or not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    From CAO vacant places

    About Available Places/Vacant Places

    If any places remain unfilled in particular courses after all offers have been made and the waiting lists of applicants meeting minimum entry requirements have been exhausted, such vacancies will be advertised.

    Where there are Available Places/Vacant Places in specific courses, HEIs will advertise these on the CAO website. Before making an “Available Place/Vacant Place” application, those matching the description “Restricted Categories of Applicant” on Page 3 of the CAO handbook should first consult with the Admissions Office of the HEI concerned.

    Persons who have not applied already may make an Available Place application on payment of a fee of €45.00.

    Persons who have applied already (whether placed or not) may apply for an Available Place on-line without payment of a further fee (when available).

    Applicants for Available Places/Vacant Places must meet the normal minimum entry requirements for the course(s) in question. Previously published points in an earlier round of offers should not be taken as an indication of the points required for entry to Available Places/Vacant Places.

    Mature applicants and applicants who have qualifications other than 1985-2007 Irish Leaving Cert and/or 2000-2007 FETAC Level 5/6 are categorised as Non-Standard Applicants. Such applicants must contact the appropriate HEI before completing an application.



    Lists will be available here from 12 noon tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    If you didn't get offered anything but are still hopeful of getting your 1st choice in Round 2, if you apply for a vacant course will that become your 1st choice???

    Or will your 1st choice still over -rule it even if you apply for one of the vacant places???

    Confused!:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    As far as I understand it (and I don't work for the CAO! :pac:) if you apply for / get offered / accept a vacant place, it will be just as if you accepted the offer you got in Round 1 ... i.e. if one of your higher preferences becomes available in Round 2 you will still get offered it.

    I'd be 95% certain about that, but I haven't seen that particular scenario play out in real life, so can't be 100%.

    Someone else may be able to confirm ... or when the Vacant Places facility re-opens tomorrow, they may give you more information about it as part of the "how to ..." instructions.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭CyberWaste


    DO all the courses or at least most of them come up for the vacant spaces option today during round 1, or do more come up during round 2? What was it like in previous years?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 853 ✭✭✭Idjit


    well the vacant places service is meant to be open now but its still displaying that message about it being closed until...well...now...i wonder if its on automatic update or if they give it a few minutes before opening it while people flood on?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭CyberWaste


    Wa hoping for Something in Carlow IT or WIT... ahh well.

    Do more courses come up like during round 2 or is this the lot for this year?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 884 ✭✭✭ya-ba-da-ba-doo


    Hey can someone please stick up the list of courses cause my pc wont open the page, cheers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 79 ✭✭happyfeet22


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭CyberWaste


    Available Place Course List 2009
    Last updated: 18-AUG-2009 13:01
    Correct as of: 18-AUG-2009

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    AC120 International Business
    AC121 Accounting and Finance
    AC141 Behavioural Science (Psychology)

    ATHLONE INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY
    AL033 Toxicology
    AL035 Construction Technology and Management

    NATIONAL COUNSELLING INSTITUTE
    CI101 Counselling and Psychotherapy

    CORK INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY
    CR105 Chemical and Biopharmaceutical Engineering
    CR116 Software Development and Computer Networking
    CR305 Science (Level 8 - Common Entry)
    CR500 Common Engineering Honours Degree Entry
    CR570 Quantity Surveying

    DUBLIN BUSINESS SCHOOL
    DB512 Business Studies
    DB514 Business and Law
    DB515 Business with Human Resource Management
    DB516 Business with Financial Services
    DB517 Marketing with Event Management
    DB519 Business Management with Leisure and Recreation
    DB521 Accounting and Finance
    DB531 Marketing
    DB553 Film, Literature and Drama
    DB561 Arts (General)
    DB562 Psychology
    DB564 Media and Cultural Studies
    DB565 Journalism
    DB566 Social Science
    DB567 Film Studies
    DB568 Law
    DB569 Business and Psychology

    DUBLIN CITY UNIVERSITY
    DC156 Languages for International Comm. - English Stream - non-native speakers
    DC191 Electronic Engineering
    DC192 Information and Communications Engineering
    DC193 Mechatronic Engineering
    DC195 Mechanical and Manufacturing Engineering
    DC196 Manufacturing Engineering with Business Studies
    DC197 Biomedical Engineering
    DC199 Digital Media Engineering
    DC200 Common Entry into Engineering (Undenominated Entry)

    DUNDALK INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY
    DK815 Public Relations
    DK820 Computing in Games Development

    UNIV. COLL. DUBLIN(NUI)
    DN022 Arts - Part time Evening

    DUBLIN INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY
    DT205 Mathematical Sciences
    DT501 Music

    GRIFFITH COLLEGE DUBLIN
    GC203 Law (Cork)
    GC400 Business Studies (Dublin)
    GC401 Accounting and Finance (Dublin)
    GC403 Law (Dublin)
    GC404 Business and Law (Dublin)
    GC405 International Hospitality Management (Dublin)
    GC406 Business Studies (Marketing - Dublin)
    GC430 Computing Science (Dublin)
    GC450 Journalism and Visual Media (Dublin)
    GC489 Interior Architecture (Dublin)
    GC494 Fashion Design (Dublin)

    NAT. UNIV. OF IRELAND,MAYNOOTH
    MH301 Electronic Engineering with Computers
    MH302 Electronic Engineering
    MH303 Electronic Engineering with Communications
    MH304 Common entry to Computer, Electronic and Communications Engineering

    TIPPERARY INSTITUTE
    TI007 Social and Community Studies
    TI008 Environmental and Natural Resource Management
    TI010 Accounting and Finance
    TI013 Business
    TI015 Computing - Software Development
    TI018 Computing - Games Design and Development
    TI113 Business
    TI117 Information Technology - Creative Multimedia

    INST OF TECHNOLOGY, TRALEE, CO. KERRY
    TL182 Travel and Tourism Management
    TL285 Business Studies
    TL299 Information System Management


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    ATHLONE INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY
    AL005 Front Office Management
    AL016 Science (Bioscience/Chemistry)
    AL018 Hospitality Business Management
    AL021 Biotechnology
    AL023 Accounting Technician
    AL025 Business (Equine Studies)
    AL040 Financial Services
    AL046 Mobile Communications and Electronics

    INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY, BLANCHARDSTOWN
    BN013 Computing (Information Technology)
    BN015 Engineering (Common 1st Year)
    BN016 Business (Common 1st Year)
    BN039 Engineering (Sustainable Electrical Control Technology)

    INST OF TECH AND BUSINESS,SWORDS
    BY001 Business
    BY051 Business

    NATIONAL COUNSELLING INSTITUTE
    CI001 Counselling Studies and Psychometric Testing
    CI002 Counselling Skills and Addiction Studies
    CI005 Youth and Counselling Studies

    DUBLIN BUSINESS SCHOOL
    DB513 Business
    DB522 Business in Accounting
    DB533 Business in Marketing
    DB563 Cultural Studies
    DB571 Business Studies
    DB572 Business in Accounting
    DB573 Business in Marketing
    DB574 Business in Information Technology
    DB575 Social Studies
    DB576 Film and Media
    DB580 Legal Studies
    DB581 Legal and Business Studies
    DB582 Legal Studies
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    DK711 Business and Information Systems
    DK721 Computing (incorporating 3 award options)
    DK743 Engineering - Building Services Engineering
    DK744 Engineering - Civil Engineering
    DK745 Construction Technology
    DK760 Applied Cultural Studies
    DK761 Applied Cultural Studies (Language)
    DK781 Science - Applied Bioscience
    DK783 Science - Pharmaceutical Science

    DUBLIN INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY
    DT527 Music Foundation

    GALWAY-MAYO INST OF TECHNOLOGY
    GA173 Gnó agus Cumarsáid
    GA373 Bar Management
    GA374 Tourism Management
    GA375 Retail and Customer Service Management
    GA869 Business in Computer Applications
    GA872 Heritage Studies
    GA877 Business
    GA878 Accounting and Financial Management

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    GC210 Marketing (Cork)
    GC211 Business (Cork)
    GC216 Business (Cork)
    GC265 Journalism (Cork)
    GC416 Business (Dublin)
    GC435 Computing (Dublin)
    GC440 Computing (Dublin)
    GC465 Journalism (Dublin)
    GC470 Photographic Media (Dublin)
    GC490 Interior Design (Dublin)
    GC495 Fashion Design (Dublin)

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    LY117 Administrative Management
    LY207 Law
    LY407 Graphic Design
    LY517 Building Energy, Services and Design
    LY607 Electronic Engineering
    LY737 Computer Security and Digital Forensics
    LY817 Bioscience

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    SG135 Business in Tourism
    SG137 Computing - Systems and Networking
    SG138 Computing - Database Management
    SG232 Creative Design and Innovation
    SG532 Marketing with Languages
    SG533 Marketing

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    TI003 Computing
    TI006 Computing (IT Support)
    TI009 Computing
    TI016 Computing - IT Support
    TI019 Business
    TI101 Business
    TI104 Information Technology - Creative Multimedia
    TI114 Information Technology - Creative Multimedia
    TI119 Business

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    TL187 Adventure Tourism Management
    TL630 Construction
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭ayapatrick


    If i accept my first round offer can i apply then for a vacant place?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    Yes.

    See post 6 above by the way.

    Also, from CAO handbook (page 18):

    Acceptance of an offer of an Available Place/Vacant Place course automatically cancels and supersedes any previous offer(s) and acceptance(s).

    I would read this to mean that you can apply for a vacant place and still retain / accept your first round offer ... it is only if / when you are offered a vacant place (which is different from applying for one!) and accept that offer that your previous acceptance of your Round 1 offer is cancelled.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭ayapatrick


    Yes.

    See post 6 above by the way.

    Also, from CAO handbook (page 18):

    Acceptance of an offer of an Available Place/Vacant Place course automatically cancels and supersedes any previous offer(s) and acceptance(s).

    I would read this to mean that you can apply for a vacant place and still retain / accept your first round offer ... it is only if / when you are offered a vacant place (which is different from applying for one!) and accept that offer that your previous acceptance of your Round 1 offer is cancelled.

    thanks. i hope now that more courses will come up on the vacant places!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    ayapatrick wrote: »
    thanks. i hope now that more courses will come up on the vacant places!
    You should see some more certainly ... esp. after Round 2

    Depends what you're looking for though ... taking it to the extreme for illustration purposes, Med in Trinity isn't likely to appear!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭CyberWaste


    You should see some more certainly ... esp. after Round 2

    Depends what you're looking for though ... taking it to the extreme for illustration purposes, Med in Trinity isn't likely to appear!

    I was told by WIT in an email, that they have NEVER had any courses on the vacant list. I find that hard to believe, but has anyone ever seen courses on the vacant list for WIT?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    CyberWaste wrote: »
    I was told by WIT in an email, that they have NEVER had any courses on the vacant list. I find that hard to believe, but has anyone ever seen courses on the vacant list for WIT?
    I honestly don't know, I've never paid much attention to the vacancies list before this year.

    I'd be somewhat dubious though ... unless it's WIT policy simply not to take applications in this way, but to simply run with smaller numbers in some courses if that's what they end up with?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭CyberWaste


    I honestly don't know, I've never paid much attention to the vacancies list before this year.

    I'd be somewhat dubious though ... unless it's WIT policy simply not to take applications in this way, but to simply run with smaller numbers in some courses if that's what they end up with?

    I don't really understand what your saying there :confused:

    But yeah, I dont get it, I never imagined WIT being THAT popular of a college that they have NEVER had any vacancies. Strange... im still hoping though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 884 ✭✭✭ya-ba-da-ba-doo


    Hes trying to say rather than get 5 extra students for a course, for example, that has room for 60 people and only has 55 accepted, they stick with the 55 as they dont want to kinda tarnish their reputation yeno?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭CyberWaste


    Hes trying to say rather than get 5 extra students for a course, for example, that has room for 60 people and only has 55 accepted, they stick with the 55 as they dont want to kinda tarnish their reputation yeno?

    Ah right, if thats the case, if emailing them, and implying this to them, and telling them what you got in the LC, and that you really want to get into the course, would they be able to offer a place just to me? Or is that against CAO rules or what?:o


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭CyberWaste


    CyberWaste wrote: »
    Ah right, if thats the case, if emailing them, and implying this to them, and telling them what you got in the LC, and that you really want to get into the course, would they be able to offer a place just to me? Or is that against CAO rules or what?:o

    Anyone know? :( I just really would like to get into WIT.


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