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Prizefighter: The Heavyweights Part III

  • 17-08-2009 4:18pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 942 ✭✭✭


    Looks like this will be the best Prizefighter ever (if everyone turns up)

    http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/BN08/detail.asp?id=1232

    Danny Williams
    Scott Gammer
    Michael Sprott
    Michael Holden
    Audley Harrison
    Danny Hughes
    Coleman Barrett
    Scott Belshaw

    so who will win? 16 votes

    Danny Williams
    0%
    Scott Gammer
    43%
    nacho librecowzerpObaDaroxtarSugerraysarahitouchmyselfVintagekits 7 votes
    Michael Sprott
    0%
    Michael Holden
    25%
    Big Earsc1979Kess73unknown13 4 votes
    Audley Harrison
    0%
    Danny Hughes
    25%
    Tony AngelinoduagreRob113horsebox09 4 votes
    Coleman Barrett
    6%
    dlofnep 1 vote
    Scott Belshaw
    0%


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭f1dan


    Did I read that correctly? Coleman Barrett? Were there no other willing heavyweights left in these isles?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 942 ✭✭✭Vintagekits


    Scott Gammer
    f1dan wrote: »
    Did I read that correctly? Coleman Barrett? Were there no other willing heavyweights left in these isles?

    you mean the unbeaten warrior that keeps knocking out Russian sparring partners?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 968 ✭✭✭ODD-JOB


    lol !

    Rumours are that Mike tyson and Big Joe Egan will be there ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭joepenguin


    Great line up for a prizefighter tournament!! Audley and Danny arnet exactly thrill a minute fighter in 12 rounders so this will bring out the best in all the boxers involved. Also give the inexperienced guys a chance at british level heavys. Bit of a risk for williams as british champ though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 942 ✭✭✭Vintagekits


    Scott Gammer
    ODD-JOB wrote: »
    lol !

    Rumours are that Mike tyson and Big Joe Egan will be there ;)

    another rumour that has just filtered through is that security is going to be amazing and Coleman is going to have the best footwear available thanks to a certain shoe salesman! :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 159 ✭✭itouchmyself


    Scott Gammer
    f1dan wrote: »
    Did I read that correctly? Coleman Barrett? Were there no other willing heavyweights left in these isles?


    As funny as the thread was about him before he wasn't bad when I last seen him, got a medal in the world Juniors as an amatuer. Never seen him box pro, not that he's fought much and should be a Cruiser.
    Haven't seen much of some the lad's down to be honest, but see William's having to much experience, Audley is a joke but then again it over 4 rounds is'nt it?? and he was a brilliant amatuer wether like admit it or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,004 ✭✭✭Big Ears


    Michael Holden
    No offence dlofnep but if you're voting for Danny Hughes it means you obviously haven't seen him fight, and even Coleman Barrett stands a better chance than him.

    To be fair Joepenguin although John McDermott recently forced Williams into a series of boring fights, Danny has been pretty much thrill a minute most of the time. His first fight with Audley was awful aswell but other than that I think you have to give it to Williams he's a pretty exciting fighter normally.

    Williams is quite a way past his best now, can't hold a shot aswell as he used, seems to have a problem with balance and trains even worse than he did under Jim McDonnell. He still has heart and a good punch, but I'm not sure he'll be consistant enough throughout the tournament to win it.

    Scott Gammer only fights for the money now and lost his hunger long ago(when ko'ed by Williams). He has retired several times in the last few years and come back because the Germans offered him some decent money for another pay day. Motivated and in shape I'd actually have him the favourite for this, but he'll be neither and because of that I can't see him winning.

    Sprott, has slipped a little bit in recent times but is still a good quality gatekeeper at European level and if in the right frame of mind he should take this. Don't expect him to score many knockouts in the tournament but I think he'll be able to win all 3 fights on points.

    Michael Holden, hasn't boxed in years and although I heard he was coming back recently I'm a little bit surprised he's being thrown straight into this.
    Despite winning the British title previously he was only really English title standard and with the time off and his age I don't fancy him to make much of an impact.

    Audley Harrison, clearly the most talented fighter here and like Gammer it'd be a different story if he was motivated. Unlike Gammer he actually usually is in shape nowdays, but the fact he won't apply himself as he should will work against him. He carries a big punch and has the ability to spark any one of these men with his left uppercut. He did only lose to Rogan by a point recently and will be the favourite for this, and 3 round fights may actually suit him if he can convince his opponents to fight to a low tempo. Remember he was doing a number on Sprott over 3 rounds till he got sparked by that hail mary punch.

    Danny Hughes, seem him fight in the flesh once......he's awful. No hint of a jab, all his punches seem to be winged slaps and he's not in very good shape. He does try hard I suppose and can outwork low class opposition that aren't gonna do much but compared to what he's fought this isn't low class opposition. Given the wrong opponent he may actually take a bit of a hammering in his 3 round fight and he draws Holden(and if Holden has lost quite a bit) or Belshaw there's no way he's progressing past the first round.

    Coleman Barrett, a Cruiserweight who really shouldn't be at heavy, not a big puncher and just pretty average all round. A good thing for his opponents here is that they're not Russian........he apparently sees red everytime he faces a Russian and knocks them out with brutal devastating ease. Not a man Valuev would like to face.

    Belshaw, big, carries a decent punch but is extremely crude and lumbering and his power isn't going to matter because he won't land(against anyway of the top guys anyway). He like Barrett is going to need a very nice draw if he's going to make the semi-'s and even then it'd be a struggle. Seems like a nice guy though so I wish him all the best in this but it'll be too tough a task imo and he's gonna pick up a 3rd career defeat.

    1.Michael Sprott
    2.Audley Harrison
    3.Danny Williams
    4.Scott Gammer
    5.Michael Holden(who knows what he's got left, seriously doubt he'll win though)
    6.Coleman Barrett
    7.Scott Belshaw
    8.Danny Hughes

    That's how I see it, any of the top 4 can win. The bottom 4, we'll all of them will have to hope for a good draw to just avoid going out in the first.
    I hope we don't end up with a lopsided draw which could ruin the tournament a little.

    Anyway exciting line up, with the British champion being there and even if some of the fights are bad, they'll be 3 rounds at most.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭colly10


    Big Ears wrote: »
    Coleman Barrett, a Cruiserweight who really shouldn't be at heavy, not a big puncher and just pretty average a good thing for his opponents here is that they're not Russian........he all round. Apparently sees red everytime he faces a Russian and knocks them out with brutal devastating ease. Not a man Valuev would like to face.

    lol, I think he has a thing for the eastern block in general, although they're probably all ducking him now after watching him ko slovakias finest with ease.
    Big Ears wrote: »
    Audley Harrison, clearly the most talented fighter here and like Gammer it'd be a different story if he was motivated. Unlike Gammer he actually usually is in shape nowdays, but the fact he won't apply himself as he should will work against him. He carries a big punch and has the ability to spark any one of these men with his left uppercut. He did only lose to Rogan by a point recently and will be the favourite for this, and 3 round fights may actually suit him if he can convince his opponents to fight to a low tempo. Remember he was doing a number on Sprott over 3 rounds till he got sparked by that hail mary punch.

    I'd be surprised if harrison does enough to win, he's got to be one of the laziest fighters i've ever seen, the other fighters should be capable of fighting at a much higher tempo than normal because theres so few rounds, this won't suit harrison, he's lazy to the bone


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 942 ✭✭✭Vintagekits


    Scott Gammer
    My shout.

    1. Danny Williams
    2. Michael Sprott
    3. Audley Harrison
    4. Scott Gammer
    5. Danny Hughes
    6. Coleman Barrett
    7. Michael Holden
    8. Scott Belshaw

    I only think the top three really have a chance tbh. Danny Williams can turn it on for three rounds but may struggle nearer the final with the lactic acid build up and Audley is the opposite - he might not be able to get even started in three rounds!

    Sprott has the ability to knock them all out but seems to have lost that ability lately.

    Gammer has fallen into the same mould as Sprott but a lower level.

    Barrett and Hughes have padded records and are totally unproven.

    The other two arnt really worth a comment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭joepenguin


    Big Ears wrote: »
    N

    To be fair Joepenguin although John McDermott recently forced Williams into a series of boring fights, Danny has been pretty much thrill a minute most of the time. His first fight with Audley was awful aswell but other than that I think you have to give it to Williams he's a pretty exciting fighter normally.

    Yeah suppose its a little unfair to throw him in that bracket. Its just when i see/hear of 2 british heavyweights i automatically think 12 boring rounds. There have been exeptions, and williams has been in some good fights. just those 12 rounders left a lasting impression. :D:rolleyes:

    audley knocking out williams isnt much to go on because williams was a late stand in but i defo think 3 rounders will suit audly as it will force him to fight and we could see the best of him here. He has a lot to prove.

    Really looking forward to this. Imagine 24/7 for this!! take away the milllion dollar purses, the prima donnas and throw in some last chance saloon fighters, guys looking to make a name, guys looking to make a few bob, follow them in their gyms, at home. Id say it would make for some good tv.
    The prizefighters often have some interesting stories/careers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    Scott Gammer
    This is cool, cant wait for it..

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 585 ✭✭✭Rob113


    Danny Hughes
    Im actually going to say Audley could finally come good in this. He has been muck his entire Pro career but i reckon he must have at least one decent night of boxing in him somewhere. The frantic pace of the prizefighter might actually get him to throw off the shackles and just go for it. He obviously has the skills after winning the medal that time in the olympics. The rest of them in this are just lumbering lumps. Williams was absolutely dire in those 2 fights against McDermott. I think he is too slow and cumbersome for this type of competition.

    Would love to see the mighty Barrett do it though!! Never seen the guy fight but think he is the funniest boxer ever. They should make a movie about him. Bring back Ivan Drago as his nemisis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    Scott Gammer
    Rob113 wrote: »
    Im actually going to say Audley could finally come good in this. He has been muck his entire Pro career but i reckon he must have at least one decent night of boxing in him somewhere. The frantic pace of the prizefighter might actually get him to throw off the shackles and just go for it. He obviously has the skills after winning the medal that time in the olympics..

    The frantic pace does not suit harrisson, thats where he'll struggle, breaking the shackles ruins his whole game.. he'll prob do well but bore us while doing it, slow points wins..

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,378 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Harrison is a waste of space and Williams is really past it.
    My money is on Sprott


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 942 ✭✭✭Vintagekits


    Scott Gammer
    walshb wrote: »
    Harrison is a waste of space and Williams is really past it.
    My money is on Sprott

    I think you could be right but if Williams can get going he will be hard to beat.


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