Is it possible to slave a DAW to a differnet DAW?

SeanHurley

Hi guys is it possible for me to slave my macbook Logic system (using and mbox as interface) my PC Pro Tools system (002)?

I want to be able to press play in Pro Tools and for Logic to start at same time. Is there like some MIDI thing I can set up?

Thanks for the help guys

S

PaulBrewer

I've not done it, but running the MBox as a slave and the DIGI 002 as a master shouldn't be a problem.

Turn on MTC on 002 and switch MTC follow or whaever it's called in the Logic Sync page.

You can also run you SPDIF out from the MB to the 002 but take it in steps ....

woodsdenis

SeanHurley wrote: »

Hi guys is it possible for me to slave my macbook Logic system (using and mbox as interface) my PC Pro Tools system (002)?

I want to be able to press play in Pro Tools and for Logic to start at same time. Is there like some MIDI thing I can set up?

Thanks for the help guys

S

MTC or Midi clock. It all depends what you are doing, and what Interfaces you have. If you are using Logic as a seq with just VI's maybe Midi clock might be better, as the tempo is set on your Master (Protools) and your Logic machine is being used as a Midi seq.
MTC will work aswell, but you need to remember to set the tempo the same on both. I would try to avoid running audio on both machines as this potentially creates another set of problems

studiorat

It may also be useful to connect a digital connector from one machine to the other and digitally sync them too. Though as Dennis says it could open up a whole other kettle of worms.

SeanHurley

BAsically all I want to do is record sequenced virtual instruments into Pro Tools from Logic by running them thru guitar amps and other bits and bobs of outboard and recording that (rather than bounce down in Logic and import into Pro Tools). I amn't looking to run the two systems concurrently all the time it is just to record the secuenced stuff into Pro Tools.

Thanks all for your help will try both MTC and Midi clock.

studiorat

You could just import the midi into Protools and drive the VI's in Logic that way if you were worried about the two systems drifting.

There really are lots of options, it just depends on how hard you want to make it for yourself.

Personally I'd import the .wav files into Pro Tools and run them through amps and the like from there.

SeanHurley

studiorat wrote: »

You could just bounce the file in logic and import it into Pro Tools with a USB stick or something.

Hi Rat, I have been doing this but (and maybe this is just me) bouncing in Logic seems to do something weird to the output of the virtual intruments. They just seem sort of lifeless. The sound of the instruments even D.I.'d to my SSL pre-amps sounds better to me. Now granted this might be me hearing things but I did do some blind tests and I always found myself picking the one that hadn't been bounced and imported.

studiorat

Assuming you aren't doing anything like turning them mono or turning off effects you would think they should sound the same. The Pan laws are different between the two systems and we could start going down the logic and pro tools sounding different road here...

If there were loads of tracks I'd stick a sp/dif lead between the two and lock the digi sync on Logic to the incoming sp/dif sync signal. Then send MTC and Beat Clock from Tools to Logic and off you go.

If it was one or two I'd import the MIDI to protools and play it into logic. My guess is one way or another you are going to get some sort of latency along the way. Either way you aren't going to get absolutely phase accurate sync tight enough to use on a drum kit for instance and not notice some phase distortion in the relationship of all the microphones. For single tracks guitars and vocals and the like the timing shouldn't slip that much what ever way you choose do it.

I'd get to the bottom of those bounces sounding different though. What happens if you decide to mix in Logic?

woodsdenis

SeanHurley wrote: »

BAsically all I want to do is record sequenced virtual instruments into Pro Tools from Logic by running them thru guitar amps and other bits and bobs of outboard and recording that (rather than bounce down in Logic and import into Pro Tools). I amn't looking to run the two systems concurrently all the time it is just to record the secuenced stuff into Pro Tools.

Thanks all for your help will try both MTC and Midi clock.

If this is what you are doing , just use Midi clock. Your Mac/Logic machine is then operating as a slave seq/drum machine/groove box would. Should be easy:eek:

SeanHurley

studiorat wrote: »

I'd get to the bottom of those bounces sounding different though. What happens if you decide to mix in Logic?

That is a very good point. Maybe it is just me hearing differences that aren't there, but to my ears the bounces from Logic sounded more closed in than when I plugged the Logic output into Pro Tools and recorded that.