Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest
Should those on disability allowance have subsidised cars?
-
16-08-2009 10:08pm#1
Comments
-
-
-
-
-
-
Advertisement
-
-
-
-
-
-
Advertisement
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
Advertisement
-
-
-
Yes I thought that was what you meant.
A Primary Medical Certificate confirms you are severely and permanently disabled and:- Are completely or almost completely without the use of both legs or
- Are completely without the use of one of your legs and almost completely without the use of the other leg to the extent that you are severely restricted as regards movement in your legs or
- Are without both hands or both arms or
- Are without one or both legs or
- Are completely or almost completely without the use of both hands or arms and completely or almost completely without the use of one leg or
- Have the medical condition of dwarfism and serious difficulties of movement of the legs.
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/travel-and-recreation/transport-and-disability/tax_relief_for_disabled_drivers_and_disabled_passengers
In a nutshell.
0 -
-
-
plus vrt on cars
.
Partially correct
VRT is reclaimimable to a certain amount
Up to :
Approx €9.5k for a driver
Apparo €15.5k for a passenger
Depending on how much is reclaimable on the given vehicle.vat on petrol
.
Again Partially correct
Excise duty (not VAT) is reclaimable on fuel up to a maximum of approx 2,600 litres per yearexcempt from toll fees
Correctadaptations are done free
Absolutely incorrect.
Adaptations have to be paid for by the purchaser.
ie.
Driver must make adaptations to the vehicle in respect to their disability.
A Passenger MUST spend at least 10% of the final cost of the vehicle on adaptations.
However,
VAT is reclaimable on these adaptations.free parking
In most towns you can only park in the disabled drivers spot.
( Have you ever checked how many Fit driver use and abuse these spots?)
Other towns allow disabled drivers to park anywhere on the street as long as a valid parking disc is displayed.I have no problem with designated parking and modifications being done to cars - but i've seen people in employment earning good wages who were quadroplegics and had a care attendant who was rights paid for getting these benefits. I feel equality should be across the board and if people are to get exemptions from vrt/vat/parking fees this should be on stringent means test and on actual household income.... people in employment should not qualify for these benefits... sorry. We keep hearing of equality - but in these measures outlined above I feel that discrimination is a two-way entity and it adversely affects drivers who are non-disabled. I know it may seem controversial but for me equality means equality for all - equal treatment - regardless of age, sex, family status, member of the travelling community, disability etc.
Would you prefer to see this person at home claiming disability/invalidity pension instead?
Give the people a break
They obviously want to work but need the transport and help to get their. 0 -
-
deise_dudette wrote: »I need my car adapted due to a disability from birth, my right side is restricted so i need a left drive acceleration car. I applied for this scheme and was declined...... But i know of someone fairly close to me who got the full motorised grant and they had their hip replaced (they are only 20). They got a fairly new car and it was never adapted, as there was no need for it....
Is this right??? I also heard of an old man who a stroke a few years ago and is just back on the road and he was also declined for this scheme...
Are you on a disability benefit or something?
I am not sure if this is a requirement but it may be worth your while applying for a primary medical certificate.
You local Community welfare officer will advise you on this.
There is also some scheme I am unsure of that allows certain people to reclaim Vat ( not sure of some vrt ) after purchasing a car to enable them to drive to work
*EDIT*
Just found this on IWAMotorised Transport Grant
The Motorised Transport grant provided funds towards the purchase/adaptation of a car by a person with a severe disability, where the car is considered essential to obtain or retain employment.
To be eligible to receive the Motorised Transport Grant, applicants must satisfy the following conditions:
* be over 17 years and under 66 years
* have a disability that impedes the use of public transport
* hold a driving licence
* be physically and mentally capable of driving
* require a car or other vehicle in order to obtain/retain employment or because you live in a very isolated location. Where your application is made on the basis of obtaining or retaining employment or self employment, the Health Service Executive (HSE) Area must be satisfied that you are capable of holding down a job.
The grant may also be considered in exceptional circumstances for people with severe disabilities who are over 17 years and under 66 years, who live in remote locations and who are impeded from using public transport.
It may be possible to avail of the grant if a person is unemployed but could take up work if they had a car. Self-employed people may also be eligible to apply for the grant. Normally, the grant is payable /to people who drive / where you drive yourself. It may be possible to get approval to have a grant paid where you own the car and arrange for its adaptation and another named person drives it / the vehicle / because you are not physically or medically able to drive.
Since 1 July 2002, if you receive a Motorised Transport Grant, while in receipt of the Mobility Allowance, you will become ineligible to receive the Mobility Allowance for a period of 3 years. The payment of a Motorised Transport Grant is subject to the condition that the Health Service Executive (HSE) Area will not be called upon at any future date to contribute towards the running costs of the vehicle. People are eligible to apply for the Mobility Allowance again, three years after the date of payment of the Motorised Transport Grant.
When a grant has previously been paid towards the purchase of a vehicle, a grant towards the replacement of the car will not normally be paid, unless due to extenuating circumstances, until three years from the date that the previous grant has been paid.
Might be worth your while looking into this 0 -
Are you on a disability benefit or something?
I am not sure if this is a requirement but it may be worth your while applying for a primary medical certificate.
You local Community welfare officer will advise you on this.
There is also some scheme I am unsure of that allows certain people to reclaim Vat ( not sure of some vrt ) after purchasing a car to enable them to drive to work
*EDIT*
Just found this on IWA
Might be worth your while looking into this
Thanks for your research
I was declined for a Primary Medical Certificate for the VRT scheme. I am awaiting a date to be brought before the medical board of appeal.
I am in full time employment so I need my car. i have only started learning. In the next 2 years i will also be having a hip replacement, due to arthritus.
I feel its unfair some people meet the criteria and others dont.... If i dont get this I would be ok but the fact i know someone who has got it and they are perfectly okay, they are even planning on getting a new car.... with no adaptions again.... I know there are people who are worse off then me out there who needs a car and they cant the grant or the VRT scheme, its really frustrating :mad::mad::mad:0 -
Advertisement
-
deise_dudette wrote: »Thanks for your research
I was declined for a Primary Medical Certificate for the VRT scheme. I am awaiting a date to be brought before the medical board of appeal.
I wish you well in this appeal.
And it does seem that there are quite a few anomalies in this scheme which should be looked at by the Department.0 -
deise_dudette wrote: »I am in full time employment so I need my car. i have only started learning. In the next 2 years i will also be having a hip replacement, due to arthritus.
I have been told that Arthritus sufferers come under the criteria of the primary medical Cert.
I do know people with it.
Does it affect your lower limbs?
If so then that is your calling card.
"When your arthritus is bad it leaves you basically immobile. You cannot use your legs 0 -
I have been told that Arthritus sufferers come under the criteria of the primary medical Cert.
I do know people with it.
Does it affect your lower limbs?
If so then that is your calling card.
"When your arthritus is bad it leaves you basically immobile. You cannot use your legs
When I first went for the interview for the primary medical cert i was told within 5 minutes that i didnt qualify. I have arthritus in my hips nearly 10 years and im shown early signs of it in my left hand, i do everything with my left hand. I am only 22. Ive never asked for anything in my life from the state.
People who have disabilities and genuinely need grants for cars are being refused while able bodied people seem to achieve more... Its like banging my head against a brick wall :mad::mad::mad:0 -
-
-
-
Advertisement
-
-
Partially correct
VRT is reclaimimable to a certain amount
Up to :
Approx €9.5k for a driver
Apparo €15.5k for a passenger
Depending on how much is reclaimable on the given vehicle.
Again Partially correct
Excise duty (not VAT) is reclaimable on fuel up to a maximum of approx 2,600 litres per year
Correct
Absolutely incorrect.
Adaptations have to be paid for by the purchaser.
ie.
Driver must make adaptations to the vehicle in respect to their disability.
A Passenger MUST spend at least 10% of the final cost of the vehicle on adaptations.
However,
VAT is reclaimable on these adaptations.
Got it wrong in relation to this - but vat is re-claimable though.
In most towns you can only park in the disabled drivers spot.
( Have you ever checked how many Fit driver use and abuse these spots?)
Other towns allow disabled drivers to park anywhere on the street as long as a valid parking disc is displayed.
I agree with you regarding disabled driving places - and the ignorance shown of able-bodied drivers who park in these spots. It comes down to enforcement however from the county councils and parking enforcement. Certainly, when I worked in this sector - we had no problems parking in non-disabled parking spaces quite legally.
Would you prefer to see this person at home claiming disability/invalidity pension instead?
Give the people a break
They obviously want to work but need the transport and help to get their.
No, I would sooner see equality meaning equality. Provisions put in place to enable disabled people whether these people have physical, mental or learning disabilities get into employment. What I am trying to put across is my experience of the disability sector - which people can agree or disagree with. Part of the remit is social inclusion through equality - and I just think equality should mean equality across the board - no differential treatment including in rights and entitlements, equal opportunities and social policy responses. And in relation to the multitude of organisations that have grown up around the disability sector - why is there so many - there's so much duplication in their action areas.... surely it make better sense to pool resources given many of the challenges are across the board and experienced by people irrespective of the nature of their disability.0 -
-
-
-
Advertisement
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
Advertisement