through the green

uberwolf

playing partner Yesterday. Embedded a ball on the tee box of another hole. Took relief. I wasn't comfortable with it, and we marked both scores down. Apparently it was clarified in the pro shop, and he got his one point, and ultimately won the comp.

I'm still not happy to be honest. I felt through the green meant on the hole in play only. Now that I've signed for the score, am I right or wrong, and should I do anything now

Rather_b_diving

Interesting - the pro is right in terms of any closely mowen area qualifies for relief.

However when you say you marked both scores- the question is what relief was taken. For instance relief from a plugged ball is free drop within one club length - I assume this is what happened. It also assumes there's no local rule that says drop away from tee boxes?

BoardsRanger

uberwolf wrote: »

and should I do anything now

Certainly not. The decision has already been made on the matter and any post action on your part will just reek of sour grapes.

FlutterinBantam

http://golf.about.com/cs/rulesofgolf/g/rules_throughgr.htm

OilBeefHooked2

uberwolf wrote: »

playing partner Yesterday. Embedded a ball on the tee box of another hole. Took relief. I wasn't comfortable with it, and we marked both scores down. Apparently it was clarified in the pro shop, and he got his one point, and ultimately won the comp.

I'm still not happy to be honest. I felt through the green meant on the hole in play only. Now that I've signed for the score, am I right or wrong, and should I do anything now

You've no reason not to be happy about it other than highlighting your lack of knowledge of the rules and/or faith in others who do i.e the person in the pro shop. What your playing did is perfectly ok and within the rules.

Nemesis

Say you hit your tee shot and it got embedded into the Teeing ground of the hole your playing can you get free relief?.

25-2 Embedded Ball
A ball embedded in its own pitch-mark in the ground in any closely mown area through the green may be lifted, cleaned and dropped, without penalty, as near as possible to the spot where it lay but not nearer the hole. The ball when dropped must first strike a part of the course through the green.“Closely mown area” means any area of the course, including paths through the rough, cut to fairway height or less.

Through the Green
"Through the green" is the whole area of the course except:
a. The teeing ground and putting green of the hole being played; and
b. All hazards on the course.

The T-box (of the hole you are playing) is a closely mown area but it isn't Through the green.

Last winter when the notice was put up in our club about relief through the green,I asked several members if they knew what 'through the green' meant,
best answer was "when your ball runs across the green and off the back of the green" !!!???

uberwolf

Strange attitudes here to someone asking a question and trying to improve their knowledge. The reason it didn't make sense to me is that I thought the rule was designed to make sure players weren't punished for poor conditions when they've hit good shots. An errant shot wouldn't merit the same consideration. Given I quoted the rule to my more experienced playing partners I couldn't presume their interpretation to be correct. As for sour grapes, it wasn't me he beat! I was 13 shots astray, but thanks for your leap to judge

FlutterinBantam

Nemesis wrote: »

Say you hit your tee shot and it got embedded into the T-box of the hole your playing can you get free relief?.

:eek:
That would be one hell of a shot son.

Sandwich

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

:eek:
That would be one hell of a shot son.

Why? Many a hole has several distinct tee boxes. Hitting a low scud from one into the upslope of one of the more forward ones doesnt seem an impossibility.

Jasonw

Sandwich wrote: »

Why? Many a hole has several distinct tee boxes. Hitting a low scud from one into the upslope of one of the more forward ones doesnt seem an impossibility.

A tee box is not the teeing ground. See definition of teeing ground below. If for example you hit a lob wedge from the teeing ground. It goes vertically up and embeds itself on the teebox a foot forward of the marker you are playing off. You would be entitled to relief under rule 25-2.

Teeing Ground

The “teeing ground’’ is the starting place for the hole to be played. It is
a rectangular area two club-lengths in depth, the front and the sides of
which are defined by the outside limits of two tee-markers.A ball is

outside the teeing ground when all of it lies outside the teeing ground.