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is it hard to get secondary teaching jobs

  • 15-08-2009 12:28am
    #1
    paulhealy1991
    Closed Accounts Posts: 104 ✭✭


    hey im just woundering is it hard for Engineering and DCG teachers to get teaching jobs now and what do people they it will be like in four years time? any help would be great asap because offers are out monday!!
    thanks


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  • #2
    spurious
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    There are not huge numbers of people taking those subjects, so they're a fairly rare commodity. That said, it's only some schools will require a teacher of Engineering/DCG. If you could throw Maths into the mix somehow, prospects would be much better.

    A lot of it boils down to luck, being where a new school opens or someone retires in your subject.


  • #3
    gaeilgebeo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭gaeilgebeo


    paulhealy1991 wrote: »
    hey im just woundering is it hard for Engineering and DCG teachers to get teaching jobs now and what do people they it will be like in four years time? any help would be great asap because offers are out monday!!
    thanks

    Engineering is a good subject to have, not a lot of engineering teachers qualifying every year and there'll be loads of retirements in the coming years. Go for it!


  • #4
    ayapatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭ayapatrick


    spurious wrote: »
    There are not huge numbers of people taking those subjects, so they're a fairly rare commodity. That said, it's only some schools will require a teacher of Engineering/DCG. If you could throw Maths into the mix somehow, prospects would be much better.
    do you mean there are few pupils taking that subject or the amount of people taking on the subject to teach it?

    would it be possible to qualify in woodwork or engineering/DCG and then possibly do a year extra to qualify with maths?


  • #5
    spurious
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    AFAIK there are less than 5000 or so people taking Engineering at LC every year. Compare that with 7000 or so for Physics, 7000 or so for Chemistry, 5000 or so for Music or 13000 or so for Home Ec. and you can see it's a minority subject.

    It won't be offered in all schools and schools that do have it would be unlikely to have more than one class group per year doing it, so that's let's say about 6 hours on a timetable (at best) between 5th and 6th years.

    If you could get Maths at all it would make you much more employable, as they can always make up a timetable with Maths.


  • #6
    bdoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 574 ✭✭✭bdoo


    I don't think prospects are as bad as spurious.

    You have to take into account JC metalwork and technology together with Tech. Graphics and DC Graphics. It is rare to see more than one metalwork teacher in a school alright.

    you should have maths in your degree so you'll be able to add up your hours - ring UL they'll tell you exactly what you can teach - I know woodwork teachers who are teaching physics and junior science and others doing maths.

    Who knows what will happen i n 4 years...you may be lucky you may not this time last year people going for the h.dip thougt they'd get jobs .teaching and look what happened so ya never know.

    PS - Woodwork is better that metal by far!


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  • #7
    paulhealy1991
    Closed Accounts Posts: 104 ✭✭paulhealy1991


    bdoo wrote: »

    PS - Woodwork is better that metal by far!
    i know woodwork may be a more popular subject but id hate to be teaching that subject over and over every year!!
    anyway thanks for all the replies. ha i prob should of done this research before filling in the cao!! if anyone has any more information it would be great as im sure im not the only person with this question!


  • #8
    pjtb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 141 ✭✭pjtb


    "ha i prob should of done this research before filling in the cao!! "

    I hope when you say this you're not saying you have regrets! If Engineering and DCG teaching is what you want to do, and you genuinely would like to do it, the job situation should not have too much of an impact on your decision. Teaching may be fairly hard struck by the recession etc., but every career has been to some extent. And i'm sure that there are other options available to graduates of the degree you're doing other than teaching if you didn't want to teach!


  • #9
    ayapatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭ayapatrick


    bdoo wrote: »
    I don't think prospects are as bad as spurious.

    You have to take into account JC metalwork and technology together with Tech. Graphics and DC Graphics. It is rare to see more than one metalwork teacher in a school alright.

    !

    we had two woodwork dc graphics teachers in my school.


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