Recommend a winter training jacket

lukester

In the spirit of tracking down early bargains, and as I need a warm training jacket, I'd like to solicit recommendations.

Most important criterion is style. Budget is sub €100. Intended use is depths of sh1tty winter training rides.

ednwireland

i use an aldi one !!!!!!!!!! best thing i've bought in years

lukester

ednwireland wrote: »

i use an aldi one !!!!!!!!!! best thing i've bought in years

No offence, but

lukester wrote:

Most important criterion is style.

ROK ON

lukester wrote: »

In the spirit of tracking down early bargains, and as I need a warm training jacket, I'd like to solicit recommendations.

Most important criterion is style. Budget is sub €100. Intended use is depths of sh1tty winter training rides.

http://www.rapha.cc/winter-jersey-08

Morgan

I just use a black bin-liner. Cut holes for your arms and neck and it'll keep out the worst of the weather. If you get the fancy ones with the pull-ties you can use these to cinch it around your waist and prevent it flapping around so much on fast descents. If you only have regular bags, a few wraps of sellotape around your waist will have the same effect. There's no real reason to spend money on anything more.

ednwireland

ahhh takes me back to the monsters of rock festivals - black bin liners most waterproof substance know to man

Ghost Rider

I knew there was another reason you didn't buy my Cannondale jacket, Morgan...

Which reminds me: OP, check this out:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055591665

Morgan wrote: »

I just use a black bin-liner. Cut holes for your arms and neck and it'll keep out the worst of the weather. If you get the fancy ones with the pull-ties you can use these to cinch it around your waist and prevent it flapping around so much on fast descents. If you only have regular bags, a few wraps of sellotape around your waist will have the same effect. There's no real reason to spend money on anything more.

Running Bing

Here you go http://www.bikesportz.com.au/products/santini/winter_jj/jak_luzon.html

Style dont come cheap. If your only going to spend a paltry €100 you'd be better off with the Lidls one or one of Morgans bin liners.

Bambaata

i bought me this yesterday - http://chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=32188

Admittedly i haven't got it or used it but its a serious drop in price!! I went for XL knowing its Italian to (1 step up from what i normally wear)

lukester

I ain't looking for anything waterproof, but I like the bin liner idea. I might start wrapping some of old Dunne's plastic bags round my shoes too to keep them clean and dry. Might stick one on the saddle too.

I'm liking ROK_ON's Rapha suggestion, cheaper than I'd have thought. I looked at that Giordana jacket, and couldn't muster anything more than a meh.

Running Bing wrote: »

Here you go http://www.bikesportz.com.au/products/santini/winter_jj/jak_luzon.html

Style dont come cheap. If your only going to spend a paltry €100 you'd be better off with the Lidls one or one of Morgans bin liners.

I find that kinda fugly. Expensive and fugly.

blorg

Morgan wrote: »

I just use a black bin-liner. Cut holes for your arms and neck and it'll keep out the worst of the weather. If you get the fancy ones with the pull-ties you can use these to cinch it around your waist and prevent it flapping around so much on fast descents. If you only have regular bags, a few wraps of sellotape around your waist will have the same effect. There's no real reason to spend money on anything more.

It's a popular choice in road events.



@Bambaata- I had noticed that jacket on sale and was going to post about it. Let us know about fit etc. when you get it, I was thinking of buying one. RRP used to be £100 before fall in sterling. Got a good review here.

Raam

@lukester: the Nalini stuff tends to be pretty sharp
I have this
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=24380

Raam

I suppose I should add... you can't buy it because I already have it

ryan_sherlock

It has been mentioned before (and I know lots on here like them) but the Assos AirJack 851 is amazing. A little expensive, but the quality, cut is perfect. Warm enough for any day in Ireland.

zzzzzzzz

ryan_sherlock wrote: »

It has been mentioned before (and I know lots on here like them) but the Assos AirJack 851 is amazing. A little expensive, but the quality, cut is perfect. Warm enough for any day in Ireland.

I was just going to mention this one. Definitely the best money I've ever spent.
I'm actually looking forward to it getting cold so I can start wearing it again!

As an aside, I saw someone cycling up my road the other day, in Rathmichael, wearing one of these and full length tights! wtf?!

DirkVoodoo

After freezing myself silly a few times last winter (I think El tonto and the Claw can verify this) I decided I needed a good winter jacket. Got this:



from Slane Cycles, who were great to deal with. I think it cost something ridiculous like 60 euro at the time, far less than Bikeradar's RRP. Very warm jacket, maybe too warm around the lower forearm/wrists.

Review

blorg

aidan.offbeat wrote: »

As an aside, I saw someone cycling up my road the other day, in Rathmichael, wearing one of these and full length tights! wtf?!

Probably a continental pro recceing the ToI route.

ryan_sherlock

blorg wrote: »

Probably a continental pro recceing the ToI route.

Or very low body fat :P

blorg

ryan_sherlock wrote: »

Or very low body fat :P

Is that an admission it was you?

ROK ON

I would highly recommend the Assos Airjack 851, as have previous posters.
It is fantatsically comfortable and warm, so so warm. I cycled all throughout last winter in mine. Was up in the Wicklow hills in the snow in it.
You will not get cold in one of these jackets.

I would go as far as to say, that I would wear it hill walking or mountain climbing on very cold days.

Only problem is the price is pretty steep.

ryan_sherlock

blorg wrote: »

Is that an admission it was you?

lol, I wish - in relation to the other topic, I have no idea of by body fat percentage but needless to say, I don't need to start wearing the Assos jacket until the depths of winter.

In fact, in general with the Assos gear, it is hard to go wrong. I have their arm/knee warmers, rain jacket and base layer/vest, all I highly recommend.

lukester

Dang, some great tips there.

I like Raam's Nalini and Dirk's DeMarchi, although the Nalini ain't available in my size, or in black.

The Assos sounds great, just don't know that I can justify the expense at this particular moment.

This Rapha softshell jacket looks very sweet, but at a sphincter-tightening 215 quid.

Right now I'm favouring the Rapha winter jersey over a base layer as the most viable option.

Are most of you are using a lightweight stowaway jacket for waterproofing over these jackets? That's kind of my plan.

ROK ON

lukester wrote: »

Dang, some great tips there.

I like Raam's Nalini and Dirk's DeMarchi, although the Nalini ain't available in my size, or in black.

The Assos sounds great, just don't know that I can justify the expense at this particular moment.

This Rapha softshell jacket looks very sweet, but at a sphincter-tightening 215 quid.

Right now I'm favouring the Rapha winter jersey over a base layer as the most viable option.

Are most of you are using a lightweight stowaway jacket for waterproofing over these jackets? That's kind of my plan.

I am the sad git that has possibly all of the Rapha gear.
Stowaway jacket for very windy weather and cold, but not freezing cold.
If it rains heavily you will get wet and it is miserable, as it is not lycra.

The assos gear is fine when wet, as it is skin tight you will stay warm. The wind panels on the front seem waterproof. If it was very wet I would wear it with nothing underneath, if it was very cold I would wear it with a base layer and maybe a jersey underneath.

Rapha gear in general is good in the cold, but much better in dry cold. The jerseys get heavy when wet.
I tend not to wear a rapha jersey when very wet out, but would stick with ordinary jersey and either a raincape or gilet.

Caroline_ie

... I don;t wear a jacket ... I wear canterburry cold base layers, long sleep jerseys and a windbreaker, i am usually not cold ...

Chips Lovell

If you're on a budget, I've found that older pro-team replica jackets are fantastic value. I've a few team jackets from Nalini that only cost me €60-70 and they're really great quality.

For out and out warmth, I'd recommend the Assos AirJack like other people here. So warm that I'd only end up wearing it on the coldest days.

I can't believe we have a jacket thread in August

ednwireland

el tonto wrote: »

I can't believe we have a jacket thread in August

you seen the weather out there ? pouring rain all day here in donegal )actually its just brightened uop in the last 5 mins from heavy rain to drizzle and a possile break in the cloud

lukester

el tonto wrote: »

If you're on a budget, I've found that older pro-team replica jackets are fantastic value. I've a few team jackets from Nalini that only cost me €60-70 and they're really great quality.

I was looking at a very sweet Lampre jacket on Prendas but they didn't have my size.

Must look out for other team jackets. The only one Prendas have is an Euskaltel one for 150 quid.

trek climber

ryan_sherlock wrote: »

It has been mentioned before (and I know lots on here like them) but the Assos AirJack 851 is amazing. A little expensive, but the quality, cut is perfect. Warm enough for any day in Ireland.

Where did you get it and how much ?

zzzzzzzz

trek climber wrote: »

Where did you get it and how much ?

You can get them in the cycle superstore in tallaght, or chainreactioncycles.com.

They're about €200-250.

I've heard of people buying one size up in assos gear, but the jackets are supposed to be tight on you. Probably best to try it on for the sake of €20 or so.

trek climber

aidan.offbeat wrote: »

You can get them in the cycle superstore in tallaght, or chainreactioncycles.com.

They're about €200-250.

I've heard of people buying one size up in assos gear, but the jackets are supposed to be tight on you. Probably best to try it on for the sake of €20 or so.

Thanks, was never into Assos gear until I bought a pair of Assos shorts last winter, cant believe the difference between them and other shorts and has definitely changed my mind with regards to Assos. It just means a bit more saving for the Assos gear.

zzzzzzzz

trek climber wrote: »

Thanks, was never into Assos gear until I bought a pair of Assos shorts last winter, cant believe the difference between them and other shorts and has definitely changed my mind with regards to Assos. It just means a bit more saving for the Assos gear.

Big time - I was the same until I got this jacket. It's just in a different league to anything else I've used.

SACH Central

I have a 'Bicycle Line' winter jacket (it doesn't have a 'name' or serial number!) Got in Cycle Super Store in Tallaght. This will be my third winter using & abusing it! It cost about €80 at the time. It may not look as snazzy as the Assos gear, but I find it great. It made with their 'wind tex' fabric. I've never been cold in it.

sy

I find this Castelli Spunto jacket an excellent winter jacket. Base layer underneath and excellent fit especially around the neck.

Raam

sy wrote: »

I find this Castelli Spunto jacket an excellent winter jacket. Base layer underneath and excellent fit especially around the neck.

I really love the castelli stuff

crashoveroid

Any Jackets made by vermarc are very good .

Home:Ballyhoura

Bambaata wrote: »

i bought me this yesterday - http://chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=32188

Admittedly i haven't got it or used it but its a serious drop in price!! I went for XL knowing its Italian to (1 step up from what i normally wear)

Did you get this jacket yet (or tried it out yet)? I am very close to buying one for myself, just wondering what you think of it and wether it's actually good value at €56...considering it is €184 here :eek:... I might just see what they say when I ask them to do a price match for me and lower it by €128!!! Haha (I might risk the XS alright as it is the only one with 66% off! Might be a skin tight fit mind you :P)

Home:Ballyhoura

Home:Ballyhoura wrote: »

Did you get this jacket yet (or tried it out yet)? I am very close to buying one for myself, just wondering what you think of it and wether it's actually good value at €56...considering it is €184 here :eek:... I might just see what they say when I ask them to do a price match for me and lower it by €128!!! Haha (I might risk the XS alright as it is the only one with 66% off! Might be a skin tight fit mind you :P)

Anyone get this jacket while it's on sale? Just wondering before I make the purchase! Cheers

yoda81269

Raam, whats the fit like on the Castelli Spunto ? Where did you purchase, its on wiggle for €121.50. How warm is it on a freezing/wet January day?

blorg

I am needing a gilet as the one I ordered from Wiggle has not arrived and I am off to some big mountains on Sunday. Any suggestions for something waterproof that I can pick up in Dublin?

Bambaata

Home:Ballyhoura wrote: »

Did you get this jacket yet (or tried it out yet)? I am very close to buying one for myself, just wondering what you think of it and wether it's actually good value at €56...considering it is €184 here :eek:... I might just see what they say when I ask them to do a price match for me and lower it by €128!!! Haha (I might risk the XS alright as it is the only one with 66% off! Might be a skin tight fit mind you :P)

sorry just saw your post. I got it alright. Fits very nice but id definitely recommend going 1 size up to what you'd normally wear. I am normally a L but i went for an XL based on reviews and it fits like a glove

Raam

yoda81269 wrote: »

Raam, whats the fit like on the Castelli Spunto ? Where did you purchase, its on wiggle for €121.50. How warm is it on a freezing/wet January day?

I don't have one, just wish that I did.

alfalad

Raam wrote: »

I don't have one, just wish that I did.

I'm hungover and need some cheering up. I do like the look of that jacket it has to be said!

Beasty

ryan_sherlock wrote: »

lol, I wish - in relation to the other topic, I have no idea of by body fat percentage but needless to say, I don't need to start wearing the Assos jacket until the depths of winter.

In fact, in general with the Assos gear, it is hard to go wrong. I have their arm/knee warmers, rain jacket and base layer/vest, all I highly recommend.

I generally wear the 851 when the temperature is above freezing, and the Assos Fugu when it's sub-zero. When I added the Winter Bib Tights and gloves, I've got to say I hardly noticed the cold at all last winter. Clearly very expensive, but if you can afford the Assos winter gear (and are prepared to pay!) I've not seen anything that gets anywhere near it.

sy

yoda81269 wrote: »

Raam, whats the fit like on the Castelli Spunto ? Where did you purchase, its on wiggle for €121.50. How warm is it on a freezing/wet January day?

Hi yoda81269, I have a Castelli Spunto since last year and excellent jacket however not waterproof but showerproof. The fit is typical Italian so go for a size above your standard. I have a medium and fits snugly.( I am normally small/medium.) Great in cold frosty weather with warm baselayer and well worth the money.

alfalad

sy wrote: »

Hi yoda81269, I have a Castelli Spunto since last year and excellent jacket however not waterproof but showerproof. The fit is typical Italian so go for a size above your standard. I have a medium and fits snugly.( I am normally small/medium.) Great in cold frosty weather with warm baselayer and well worth the money.

Think I'll just have to get one. Every review is saying they are excellent and at the 40% off on Wiggle it seems a steal! Lets hope the card can take it!

CheGuedara

I think the only jacket that wasn't mentioned in this thread is quite good - The Boardsie training jacket!!

My description would be practically the same as the Castelli below: I'd recommend it anyway next time someone is putting an order together.

That said that Castelli does look nice.

*looks into wallet*

No, must be strong...and hide that damn credit card

alfalad

CheGuedara wrote: »

That said that Castelli does look nice.

*looks into wallet*

No, must be strong...and hide that damn credit card

If only I had to look into the wallet but seeing as Wiggle store your details that buy now button was just too easy to press.

I need to stop reading these posts cause I just keep spending money!

yoda81269

sy wrote: »

Hi yoda81269, I have a Castelli Spunto since last year and excellent jacket however not waterproof but showerproof. The fit is typical Italian so go for a size above your standard. I have a medium and fits snugly.( I am normally small/medium.) Great in cold frosty weather with warm baselayer and well worth the money.

Thanks Sy, I couldn't resist it any longer ...jacket arrived yesterday, excellent fit and looks fab...I'm actually looking fwd to the winter now !!:cool: