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Cyclist jailed after fatal crash on pavement

  • 12-08-2009 5:28pm
    #1
    Beasty
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    It's a UK case, and the cyclist has been jailed for 7 months:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6793530.ece

    Not sure if the same law applies here ("wanton and furious driving"), but many Irish laws have their origins in the British system

    I guess the point here is he was riding recklessly ("like a bat out of hell"). juming onto the pavement (at speed) to avoid a red light. They could have gone for a careless or dangerous driving charge, but the CPP considered these charges too minor.


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  • #2
    Blowfish
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    Good stuff, he deserves the jail time.

    I did find the fact they banned him from driving for 12 months slightly odd though.


  • #3
    Beasty
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    Blowfish wrote: »
    Good stuff, he deserves the jail time.

    I did find the fact they banned him from driving for 12 months slightly odd though.
    I think it's because it's classified as a "driving" offence - they probably did not have to ban him, but considered him a danger to other road users, and chose to

    I do not believe, however, they can ban him from cycling on the road


  • #4
    seamus
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    Beasty wrote: »
    I think it's because it's classified as a "driving" offence - they probably did not have to ban him, but considered him a danger to other road users, and chose to

    I do not believe, however, they can ban him from cycling on the road
    Depends on how the ban is worded. If it's a ban from "operating a vehicle in a public place", then bicycles would be covered under that (in this country at least). I'm not sure if such a ban exists though.


  • #5
    Beasty
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    seamus wrote: »
    Depends on how the ban is worded. If it's a ban from "operating a vehicle in a public place", then bicycles would be covered under that (in this country at least). I'm not sure if such a ban exists though.

    In the UK you can be fined for dangerous(£2,500) or careless(£1,000) cycling, or cycling on the pavement (£500), but you cannot be "banned" (from cycling or driving) for any of these offences.

    A driving ban (as happened in this case, for the more serious offence of wanton and furious driving) involves the removal of the driving licence, which is returned at the end of the ban. As I understand it the legal effect is to prohibit driving any vehicle which requires a licence. You remain, however, free to ride a bike (on the public highway)


  • #6
    Tobyglen
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    Deserved jail. Don't know why he was banned from driving though.


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  • #7
    andun84
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    I agree that the guy deserved what he got however it does highlight an inconsistency in how UK law is applied as there are very few people in UK ever jailed for accidents involving the death of a cyclist.

    It's time to clamp down on all dangerous acts.


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