44th World Military Shooting Championships Zagreb

rrpc

The results for this will be available here from tomorrow.

The team flew out on Sunday. Shooting in the 300m event.

bunny shooter

Best of luck to the Irish shooters :cool:

It wasn't me!

I'll be watching. Hopefully the results will be coming in live. Nice to see familiar names as ever.

rrpc

It's live alright.

Select the competitors you want to watch with the tick box and click 'Show Live View'

fat-tony

For those of you checking the live scores - I have been advised by the Team Captain that there is currently a delay of 1.5 hours.

It wasn't me!

fat-tony wrote: »

For those of you checking the live scores - I have been advised by the Team Captain that there is currently a delay of 1.5 hours.

That's comforting. Was wondering what was playing silly buggers.

fat-tony

The live scoring doesn't seem to be working too well in the 300m 3P rifle class. Joe O'Donohoe was 22nd in his relay with the following scores:

98 97 82 82 88 91 538

Sean Baldwin is in the 3rd relay, but the live scoring is not working at the moment.

It wasn't me!

fat-tony wrote: »

The live scoring doesn't seem to be working too well in the 300m 3P rifle class. Joe O'Donohoe was 22nd in his relay with the following scores:

98 97 82 82 88 91 538

Sean Baldwin is in the 3rd relay, but the live scoring is not working at the moment.

Aye, seems we're only getting it at the end. Nice enough result for Joe. Hopefully Sean lives up to his usual standard.

Sparks

98/97 down to 82/82? Is someone tickling the shooters at random or something?

It wasn't me!

Sparks wrote: »

98/97 down to 82/82? Is someone tickling the shooters at random or something?

3x20 Sparks.

Sparks

3x20?
But Joe's a guy, what's he doing shooting the women's event?

fat-tony

Ok I know you know Sparks,:) but just to make it clear to non-afficionados of this ISSF event:

It is shot at 300 metres , 20 shots prone, 20 shots kneeling and 20 shots standing. Rifle used is 6mm centrefire.

Sparks

I know you know fat-tony, but this isn't an ISSF event, it's a CISM one

And ISSF 300m rifle shoots do 3x40 for the men, not 3x20 (which was my joke - that the male soldier's version is the women's civilian event).

(And no, it's not really true because CISM shoots with the standard rifle stock, and the ISSF standard rifle 300m rules are 3x20 as well - it's free rifle that shoots 300m 3x40. But it's fun to poke the army lads every once in a while ).

fat-tony

It is an ISSF 3x20 Standard Rifle event as per the competition programme;)
The 3x20 MRF event takes place later in the week.

Sparks

I know, they swipe the ISSF rulebook, but it's still not an ISSF match - it doesn't count towards records or ranking or quota places (where applicable).

fat-tony

Seán Baldwin's scores in (the live display seemed to go titsup for this comp):

94 97 86 81 85 88 531

Seán was 27th out of 31 in his detail. I'll get details later.

It wasn't me!

The 300m Standard Rifle is an event I'd really like to get into. I like the stock and trigger restrictions.

remy700

I was shooting with them a few days before hand and they do some serious practicing, from morning till evening, great shooters an real sound guys.

fat-tony

Midlands is a great facility for this discipline.

remy700

Indeed it is fat tony. I think it would be an expensive discipline to get into not just the initial price for all the equipment, but the price of ammo :eek: i seen the ammount of 6br ammo people go through in practice, then theres the time involved, i think i'll go an do my lotto an say a prayer

rrpc

remy700 wrote: »

Indeed it is fat tony. I think it would be an expensive discipline to get into not just the initial price for all the equipment, but the price of ammo :eek: i seen the ammount of 6br ammo people go through in practice, then theres the time involved, i think i'll go an do my lotto an say a prayer

Indeed!

Imagine that a sixty shot match is going to cost you €120 in ammo alone :eek:

Training for a few days is probably most people's club membership for the year.

bigred

rrpc wrote: »

Indeed!

Imagine that a sixty shot match is going to cost you €120 in ammo alone :eek:

Training for a few days is probably most people's club membership for the year.

Don't worry RRPC - there's a little bit of our tax Euro going into every round the boys shoot! I can see An Bord Snip now - "Army shooting team limited to .22 only" Will save us a fortune!

rrpc

bigred wrote: »

Don't worry RRPC - there's a little bit of our tax Euro going into every round the boys shoot! I can see An Bord Snip now - "Army shooting team limited to .22 only" Will save us a fortune!

Ah stop please!

It's bad enough the DoJ and the Gardai coming in here for their ideas, we don't want An Bord Snip Nua in here too :eek:



Anyway, I think the Minister for Defence would reckon the few hundred quid in ammo is worth the photo op every time they go away :rolleyes:

It wasn't me!

It's an expensive sport. I mean, to get into it you're looking at the rifle initially. Grunig and Elmiger are about as cheap as it gets, so you're looking at €3-3.5k for that. You'd probably get a suit for about six or seven hundred for something alright if you're a nice conventional shape, and then the cheapest 6mmBR ammo for practising with is about 65c a pop, which isn't half bad, but you shoot a lot of it. I've got the clothes, so somewhere down the line the rifle will come.

Mr Flibble

fat-tony wrote: »

Midlands is a great facility for this discipline.

You think so? What other 300m ranges have you seen that lead you to that conclusion?

bunny shooter

Mr Flibble wrote: »

You think so? What other 300m ranges have you seen that lead you to that conclusion?

I detect some tension :eek:

Would you like to explain why it isn't/might not be ?

remy700

(it wasn't me)

sounds like your gearing up, good on ya, i suppose if you look at the initial cost of the rifle another way its no more than a heavy smoker spends in a year.

I hear the 6mmbr rifles are good for several thousand rounds so no ongoing barrell replacment fees. would the cheap ammo be the way to go in such a disipline though as even in practice you would need to know that it was you missing the shot and not thinking maybe it was down to poor ammo choice.

(rrpc) thats is a lot, the auld bank card wouldn't be long in heating up for a weekend at the range:)

It wasn't me!

remy700 wrote: »

(it wasn't me)

sounds like your gearing up, good on ya, i suppose if you look at the initial cost of the rifle another way its no more than a heavy smoker spends in a year.

I hear the 6mmbr rifles are good for several thousand rounds so no ongoing barrell replacment fees. would the cheap ammo be the way to go in such a disipline though as even in practice you would need to know that it was you missing the shot and not thinking maybe it was down to poor ammo choice.

(rrpc) thats is a lot, the auld bank card wouldn't be long in heating up for a weekend at the range:)

You get about 5000 rounds out of a 6mmBR barrel. As regards ammo, it's perfectly good stuff, more than good enough to shoot decent groups with, and if I'm shooting good, consistent round groups with it, then things will be not much better with the top end stuff. Training is for technique, not scores, and the evidence is in the groups, so I wouldn't worry too much. Besides, I'm still a poxy student.

fat-tony

Mr Flibble wrote: »

You think so? What other 300m ranges have you seen that lead you to that conclusion?

WTF! The Midlands is one of the finest facilities in the country for long range shooting. Explain

remy700

fat-tony wrote: »

WTF! The Midlands is one of the finest facilities in the country for long range shooting. Explain

+ 1 vote

rrpc

I'll add my +1 to the above with the added question of; if you think there's a better one out there could you please let us know and the reasons for your opinion.

And that's a genuine question as there are lots of people on here looking for long range shooting, so the more we know about the more choice they will have.

rrpc

Results from the rapid fire event:

Joe O'Donohoe: 96, 87, 81, 75, 93, 83 - 515 - 24th in Relay
Sean Baldwin: 95, 90, 74, 81, 91, 86 - 517 - 20th in Relay

Don't know yet where they finished up overall as the competition is still going on.

Mr Flibble

bunny shooter wrote: »

I detect some tension :eek:

Makes for the best threads, don't you think?




You're all being terribly precious and Hiberno-centric.

And nobody's actually answered the question.

It wasn't me!

Mr Flibble wrote: »

Makes for the best threads, don't you think?




You're all being terribly precious and Hiberno-centric.

And nobody's actually answered the question.

What others are there with the same access and facilities in the country? Let's all remember, nobody is likely to go abroad for their weekends' training on a regular basis. I've certainly seen better ranges abroad, but pretty ranges don't count for much.

Since you like questions, why are such a large proportion of your posts so goddamn antagonistic?

rrpc

Mr Flibble wrote: »

You're all being terribly precious and Hiberno-centric.

And nobody's actually answered the question.

Well as this is an Irish forum and mostly populated by people from the ROI, things tend to get a little Hiberno-centric (if that's a word ).

It wasn't really being precious either as the point was never made that Midlands: 'is the best in the world cos I say so' :rolleyes:

Personally, I've seen a lot of 300m ranges, all of them better than Midlands, but then I also understood what fat-tony was getting at.

Mr Flibble

It wasn't me! wrote: »

What others are there with the same access and facilities in the country? Let's all remember, nobody is likely to go abroad for their weekends' training on a regular basis. I've certainly seen better ranges abroad, but pretty ranges don't count for much.

Hiberno-centric

[/quote]Since you like questions, why are such a large proportion of your posts so goddamn antagonistic?[/quote]

Precious

You could hardly have made my point better if you had tried.


"goddamn antagonistic" is much too strong - saying that is antagonistic in itself. Maybe they're a small bit provocative but maybe they'll make people think about what's being written. And in this case stimulate a bit of debate and in others deflate cases of amusing stupidity, like typing Ruger with an "L" so as to indicate a different and quite inappropriate pistol.

bunny shooter

Mr Flibble wrote: »

Makes for the best threads, don't you think?




You're all being terribly precious and Hiberno-centric.

And nobody's actually answered the question.

Ya, I have to agree to that :P

Now please explain/clarify your statement and this could well be one of the best threads in a while :cool:

Ref # post 36, I do like your style

Connor, will ya check I haven't unknowingly setup another account

Mr Flibble

rrpc wrote: »

Personally, I've seen a lot of 300m ranges, all of them better than Midlands,

Now you've answered the question. Thank you. I wonder if Fat Tony's experience is the same as yours?

rrpc wrote: »

but then I also understood what fat-tony was getting at.

But a lot of people wouldn't have your experience and wouldn't understand.

bunny shooter

Mr. Flibble, I like the way your thinking & the way your playing the game

fat-tony

Mr Flibble wrote: »

Now you've answered the question. Thank you. I wonder if Fat Tony's experience is the same as yours?





But a lot of people wouldn't have your experience and wouldn't understand.

Hi Mr Flibble. Just getting back to the information superhighway after being parked in the internet hard-shoulder that is West Clare:) Great scenery, but limited broadband access where I was!
You're correct in that rrpc has loads more experience of 300m+ ranges than I, but all I said was that Midlands was one of the finest facilities in this country for long-range shooting. Granted, there's not a lot of competition for ultra long-distance ranges in the country, but all I was doing was complimenting the committee at MNSCI for running an accessible, friendy range which gave our military shooters valuable training time.