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Blocked area in Google Earth

  • 10-08-2009 7:51pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,380 ✭✭✭✭


    Just wondering what ppl make of this area in the Far East of Russia:

    Click

    Looks a bit odd that's totally blurred out. Seems to be in a very remote area. The blocked area covers about 40 sq km per Google Earth ruler.

    I doubled checked on bing maps and things get a bit weirder. On first looks it seems okay and maybe the Google image is just off with their alignment Click but then i noticed that if you look closely at this part of the image here it is identical to this which is located a few miles to the southeast. Seems like it has been lifted from the second location and pasted to cover the same area covered in the google image.

    Just seems a bit odd. Not saying anything sinister is a foot but it's a bit odd?!


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭pureirish


    Man... how do you have so much time on your hands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,380 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    pureirish wrote: »
    Man... how do you have so much time on your hands.

    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭Fallen Buckshot


    clearly someone spilled some coffee on the Google map .. im not sayin who :eek:

    and you zoom out just north of kildare there are lava flows in Ireland !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,509 ✭✭✭SpitfireIV


    Why thats an easy one to explain!

    You see its just a shadow created by a weather balloon passing over head! I would have thought that was obvious! :pac:

    Interesting though, wonder whats under it, pretty crude attempt at hiding it, surely Google could do a better job and just cut and paste a bit of the surrounding countryside in so that it wouldnt stick out like a sore thumb?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    pureirish wrote: »
    Man... how do you have so much time on your hands.

    Constructive how? Rhetorical btw.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 214 ✭✭ilivetolearn


    Thanks for your post. It's interesting and original.
    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Just wondering what ppl make of this area in the Far East of Russia:

    The first thing that jumps out at me (besides the blur of course) is the Google watermark in the middle of the blur:

    map1r.jpg

    I'm not familiar with online map softwares so I don't know if this is the 'norm'.

    I've put together the following image for you to assist your study:

    map2nxh.jpg
    map3t.jpg

    One thing I've noticed is that darkest hole (to the left) of each map overlay perfectly.

    Have you researched the coordinates geographically (i.e. what is the function of the area)? How far is location A from location B? Where is each area based? Why did you decide to research these three areas?

    (I acknowledge that I can probably tell all this from the software though I presume you already know seeing as you put this forward)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭indough


    the picture quality on google earth is ****e for the most part, i dont see what the fuss is here or maybe im missing something? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Bucklesman


    Pish.

    You're all wrong, it's the smoke monster from Lost.

    Seriously though, If the Russian military was up to something so sneaky and massive that it required them to construct a structure visible from space in the desolate Siberian wilderness, I think they would have the cop on not to just blur out the landscape á la COPS. If I was putting together a conspiracy that required the occlusion of military installations on Google Earth, I would at least use old pictures of the terrain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,848 ✭✭✭bleg


    My bad, sorry guys, 2 weeks at PF Chang's without taking a ****.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,555 ✭✭✭Gillington


    Aint been on Google Earth in ages but arent places like Area 51 blocked out? Could be some Russian Army base they dont want people lookin at.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭indough


    Gillington wrote: »
    Aint been on Google Earth in ages but arent places like Area 51 blocked out? Could be some Russian Army base they dont want people lookin at.

    no thats not blocked out at all, or at least it wasnt initially dunno about now


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    Does anyone know anyone who lives nearby?
    Or maybe time for a holiday to Russia..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,380 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    The same area on Yahoo Maps Click :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Probably just a military base. Some of the bases in the states are blocked out too (as is Microsoft headquarters, iirc). If there were sinister reasons behind it, you'd think they could do a better job than to just copy an paste a section of map that's right beside it.

    As for the watermark, Google maps has those over all areas that are opaque. If you go out into an ocean and zoom in, you'll see it has the watermark all over the place.

    edit: Here's Area 51.

    And here's a list of 51 things that are blocked on google maps. It's funny to see that William Hurts house is on the list.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 Jim Corr 2


    We are been folowed so we are ! :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭indough


    humanji wrote: »
    Probably just a military base. Some of the bases in the states are blocked out too (as is Microsoft headquarters, iirc). If there were sinister reasons behind it, you'd think they could do a better job than to just copy an paste a section of map that's right beside it.

    As for the watermark, Google maps has those over all areas that are opaque. If you go out into an ocean and zoom in, you'll see it has the watermark all over the place.

    edit: Here's Area 51.

    And here's a list of 51 things that are blocked on google maps. It's funny to see that William Hurts house is on the list.

    thats google maps though, it does show on google earth


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    indough wrote: »
    thats google maps though, it does show on google earth
    Ah right, I forgot Google Earth uses different images to Google Maps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭rikerdonegal


    humanji wrote: »
    And here's a list of 51 things that are blocked on google maps. It's funny to see that William Hurts house is on the list.


    I'm not surprised. It stands to reason that there are things on the planet that they don't want us (normal folks) to see. I don't mean for sinsiter reasons: just common sense.

    Some of the things on that list, however, are very odd.

    William Hurt's House?!! WFT? (He was very good in Damages, wasn't he?)


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    http://irishsideofthemoon.blogspot.com/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭indough


    humanji wrote: »
    Ah right, I forgot Google Earth uses different images to Google Maps.

    well i dunno like, it shows up on google earth on my computer anyway, i dont really know how they get their images


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭rikerdonegal


    I would presume the images are censored before they are given to them, right?

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    http://irishsideofthemoon.blogspot.com/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,399 ✭✭✭✭r3nu4l


    The first thing that jumps out at me (besides the blur of course) is the Google watermark in the middle of the blur:

    I'm not familiar with online map softwares so I don't know if this is the 'norm'.
    Certainly, Google have always done this with their images, it's a copyright thing (I assume).
    I've put together the following image for you to assist your study:

    One thing I've noticed is that darkest hole (to the left) of each map overlay perfectly.
    This is probably because rather than copy the area that exists on the map, they may have taken an earlier copy from another satellite image, taken at a different latitude and pasted that into the area, hence only part of the two images overlay perfectly.

    That's just a guess but it's a potential explanation.

    As for what's there, who knows but it's probably just a military base that they don't want you to see. When the Americans were developing nukes, they hid everything in the desert, they didn't want prying eyes looking over everything, perfectly acceptable in my view.

    It is interesting though and a good catch, I love these little anomalies. Original poster, have you seen if this same area is deleted/modified in Microsoft maps?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,380 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    r3nu4l wrote: »
    It is interesting though and a good catch, I love these little anomalies. Original poster, have you seen if this same area is deleted/modified in Microsoft maps?

    To be honest I came across the initial google image after it was mentioned on another website but the follow up on the other maps is my own research. Every map I've come across has this same area blocked out in some form or another. As I said in my original post I'm not saying it's sinister and I'm not really into Conspiracies but this really took my interest. As others have said presumably the images would been censored by the time Yahoo/Google/Microsoft get them.

    I'd imagine it is a military base or maybe some secret nuclear facility of some sort or may be it's nothing at all and there just might not be imagery available for this piece of land? I don't know. However there are military bases all over Russia which are easily seen in Google Earth and not censored. The different methods used to conceal the area: Google using the big brown smudge/Yahoo just leaving a black space/Microsoft copying an image of a nearby piece of land and pasting it over the area in question would suggest something is being hidden. It's interesting none the less.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭thecommander


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Google using the big brown smudge/Yahoo just leaving a black space/Microsoft copying an image of a nearby piece of land and pasting it over the area in question would suggest something is being hidden. It's interesting none the less.

    Don't the maps all originate from the one company?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,380 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Don't the maps all originate from the one company?

    possibly, i'm not sure but what i am sure of is that google, yahoo and microsoft (or those that they sourced the images from) each used a different method to cover up this part of russia. either that or there genuinely is no satellite imagery of this square in east russia. who knows?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭robtri


    this might help explain it all nothing strange, very common practise obscuring places.. look at the list here

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_map_images_with_missing_or_unclear_data


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    robtri wrote: »
    this might help explain it all nothing strange, very common practise obscuring places.. look at the list here

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_map_images_with_missing_or_unclear_data
    That's a good list. It has that Russian area from the OP, saying that it's a possible ICBM location.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭rikerdonegal


    robtri wrote: »
    this might help explain it all nothing strange, very common practise obscuring places.. look at the list here

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_map_images_with_missing_or_unclear_data


    Good list. Makes sense. Obviously they can't show everything.

    I mean, I wouldn't want strangers to see everything in my bedroom!! :P

    So, why would governments want the genpop to see everything...

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    http://irishsideofthemoon.blogspot.com/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26 Booswig


    Probably some military installation. The guys from Google got a visit one night from the friendly guys at the KGB. They had a small favour to ask grom Google, and I think they kindly replied :P

    There are a few of those places all over the world ... You cannot see them on Google.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    Just found this a bit weird while wasting time in work just flicking around the globe. Probaly a simple answer.

    http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&ie=UTF8&t=h&layer=x&g=las+vegas&ll=39.731086,-113.740597&spn=0.049242,0.07493&z=14


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭thecommander




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭A7X


    humanji wrote: »
    Probably just a military base. Some of the bases in the states are blocked out too (as is Microsoft headquarters, iirc). If there were sinister reasons behind it, you'd think they could do a better job than to just copy an paste a section of map that's right beside it.

    As for the watermark, Google maps has those over all areas that are opaque. If you go out into an ocean and zoom in, you'll see it has the watermark all over the place.

    edit: Here's Area 51.

    And here's a list of 51 things that are blocked on google maps. It's funny to see that William Hurts house is on the list.

    Thats not area 51. You linked back to the Russian place.

    Anyway area 51 isn't blurred out at all. Just type it into the search.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 865 ✭✭✭Purple Gorilla


    gavredking wrote: »
    Just found this a bit weird while wasting time in work just flicking around the globe. Probaly a simple answer.

    http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&ie=UTF8&t=h&layer=x&g=las+vegas&ll=39.731086,-113.740597&spn=0.049242,0.07493&z=14
    It's called Pivot Irrigation, or an Alfalfa field. You find them in many deserts..they're just made by ordinary people. A sprinkler is put in the centre and it radiates out in a circle which gives them their shape.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    D'oh! You're right. Must be the US trying to stop me showing it. :D Here's the proper link: Area 51.

    It's actually changed since I last saw it. I remember loads of these circular mounds all lined up, but can't find them now. They were really cool looking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭A7X


    All the craters from the bombings look deadly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭constance tench


    i've noticed that some of the flags for the regions surrounding the area are distinctly the type given by british royalty, to sovereign tribes[blue and white wavy lines in the design]..british regions of russia? :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭MultiUmm


    And here's a list of 51 things that are blocked on google maps. It's funny to see that William Hurts house is on the list.[/QUOTE]

    And Dick Cheney!:D Lol!


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