Dev's Dodge ZH 1333

PanhardPL

Dev’s Dodge.
rear view.
roof.

Max_Damage

Not on Cartell.

G Luxel

Looks like it was taken in a museum? which one and are there any more cars there? I can see it has a division between the driver and rear passengers. I saw a picture of it in the newspapers about 10 years ago when it was the first car to drive on a new bypass in Limerick.

PanhardPL

G Luxel wrote: »

Looks like it was taken in a museum? which one and are there any more cars there? I can see it has a division between the driver and rear passengers. I saw a picture of it in the newspapers about 10 years ago when it was the first car to drive on a new bypass in Limerick.

Its in a specially built glass fronted building at the rear of the County Library in Ennis.

carchaeologist

That Dev fella had a lot of nice cars....:P

Is it a coronet? i like the Fluid drive writing etched into the rear bumper.

G Luxel

in ennis? isnt there a museum in Bruree, co limerick, thought maybe that was where it was? will it be on permanent exhibit? would like to see it sometime.

carchaeologist

Another shot from 2006

PanhardPL

G Luxel wrote: »

in ennis? isnt there a museum in Bruree, co limerick, thought maybe that was where it was? will it be on permanent exhibit? would like to see it sometime.

DeValera was a T.D. for Clare. As President this was the car that was used to take him on his annual visit to Ennis Show, so well known in the Clare area. A number of years back the DeValera family offered the car to the people of Ennnis. It was restored locally and is now on permanent display. The Museum in Bruree covers his childhood period in that area.

junkyard

I used to have a Dodge hearse the very same as that car.

carchaeologist

PanhardPL wrote: »

DeValera was a T.D. for Clare.

They say this is why shannon airport was built where it is,it was supposedly meant be built on the other side of the shannon,but Dev got it in his own constituency.The land where it is built is very marshy and it took a lot of work to build the airport there.

unkel

Max_Damage wrote: »

Not on Cartell.

Interesting. Does that mean it is not currently taxed or is it just "missing" from the cartell database? Might it be missing from the official databases as well? Good car for speeding, parking and tolls then

Max_Damage

Hasn't been taxed since 1993 if it's not on Cartell.

G Luxel

roof.

I dont think Ive ever seen an emblem on a car before like this one. I thought that the British Royal Family have emblems on their Bentley's and Rolls-Royce.

carchaeologist

G Luxel wrote: »

I dont think Ive ever seen an emblem on a car before like this one. I thought that the British Royal Family have emblems on their Bentley's and Rolls-Royce.

Is it his family crest or a government emblem?Hard to make it out.

junkyard

Well Dev always did have a high opinion of himself, regarded himself as Irish Royal family. He actually taught my grandfather in school!!

G Luxel

the emblem is a nice touch to a nice car, better than a brown envelope or a scissor if it was todays lot...:D

Max_Damage

You'd think he would have got himself a Caddy instead of a Dodge though.

pmg007

Its usually on the parade in Ennis for Paddys day..

Run_to_da_hills

How come Ennis has got this car and not Dublin?

PanhardPL

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

How come Ennis has got this car and not Dublin?

While he was in jail he was elected for East Clare in the general election. On 21 January 1919, the assembled deputies met in the Mansion House, Dublin, and formally set up the Government for the Irish Republic.
As a T.D. for Clare for a period of some forty years, de Valera was a familiar figure in the County. His Election Campaigns were highlights in the political life of the area over this time while his regular attendance at local events, such as the County Show, kept him in the public eye. Depending on one’s political leanings, de Valera either generated immense support or active hostility from the Clare Electorate.

Run_to_da_hills

PanhardPL wrote: »

While he was in jail he was elected for East Clare in the general election. On 21 January 1919, the assembled deputies met in the Mansion House, Dublin, and formally set up the Government for the Irish Republic.
As a T.D. for Clare for a period of some forty years, de Valera was a familiar figure in the County. His Election Campaigns were highlights in the political life of the area over this time while his regular attendance at local events, such as the County Show, kept him in the public eye. Depending on one’s political leanings, de Valera either generated immense support or active hostility from the Clare Electorate.

His statue outside the Court house got defaced a few years ago

PanhardPL

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

His statue outside the Court house got defaced a few years ago

What has that to do with his car being exhibited in Ennis and not in Dublin.

G Luxel

He also owned a Mercedes 600 Pullman so what other cars did he own?

G Luxel

Max_Damage wrote: »

You'd think he would have got himself a Caddy instead of a Dodge though.

He did also get the Rolls Royce Silver Wraith that is used on State occasions, ZJ 5000.

carchaeologist

Max_Damage wrote: »

You'd think he would have got himself a Caddy instead of a Dodge though.

Why so?

Max_Damage

More class in a Caddy than a Dodge.

carchaeologist

This is ZJ5000(from wikipedia) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_State_Car_(Ireland)

Is that one of your pics panhard PL? Its the wikipedia picture,but it has been lifted from Boards.
This is the wikipedia entry...
Douglas Hyde, the first president of Ireland was provided with a state car, but his near fatal stroke early into his term of office meant that he rarely travelled in public. When he retired in 1945 the Irish state decided that, his successor, Seán T. O'Kelly, needed a special state vehicle for formal occasions. However what type of vehicle it should be caused an immediate row between the President-elect Seán T. O'Kelly and the Taoiseach, Éamon de Valera. O'Kelly wanted to have a state horse-drawn carriage whereas de Valera wished to have a car.
Initially O'Kelly got his wish and he was transported to the 1945 Irish presidential inauguration in the landau of the late Queen Alexandra the Queen Mother, which had been hired specially from a Dublin livery company. The landau was accompanied by the Irish presidential Mounted Escort, the Blue Hussars.
Contrary to expectations, the use of the landau proved a major success. In response, the new Irish state travel company, Córas Iompair Éireann (CIÉ) offered to build a special presidential carriage for use on state occasions. However in his enthusiasm for the project and contrary to warnings that the horses had not yet been fully trained to deal with crowds, the President insisted that the new carriage, drawn by horses, be used to bring him to the historic Dublin Horse Show at the Royal Dublin Society in August 1946. The crowds stood up and cheered as the President and Mrs O'Kelly entered the showgrounds in the carriage. The horses took fright, reared up and the coach jackknifed. De Valera seized the moment and abolished the use of the presidential carriage (except for going to the RDS). Instead he ordered that the Irish state buy a new Rolls-Royce. The Blue Hussars were abolished the following year.
The car was always maintained by the Department of Defence and driven by a Military driver, until President Erskine H. Childers took office, then it was passed over to the Garda Síochána where it had been maintained since and driven by a Garda.
It is necessary to emphasize that the car was almost sold off by the government of the day at the end of the 1960's early 70's but due to the intervention of some classic cars enthusiasts it was saved for the state.

Though used by Seán T. O'Kelly from 1947 the car is most strongly associated with his successor, Éamon de Valera, who served two full terms, holding office from 1959 to 1973. De Valera came to embody the presidency, with its symbols in turn associated personally with him, it earned the nickname Dev's Car because of his high profile use of it. Part of that was a product of the appearance of Telifís Éireann[1], Ireland's national broadcasting station, during his first term, allowing a greater public profile for whomever was president.

The historic 1947 Rolls-Royce has continued to be used in some state ceremonies, such as the National Day of Commemoration and most notably at the Irish presidential inauguration, where the car is used to transport the President (or president-elect) to and from the ceremony in Dublin Castle. It was used most recently at the 2004 inauguration of the eighth president of Ireland, Mary McAleese.
For day to day transport, the President uses a Mercedes-Benz S-Class.

Amazing to think it was nearly sold off.Has there been anymore presidential/state cars apart from the rolls?

PanhardPL

carchaeologist wrote: »

This is ZJ5000(from wikipedia) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_State_Car_(Ireland)

Is that one of your pics panhard PL? Its the wikipedia picture,but it has been lifted from Boards.
This is the wikipedia entry...
Douglas Hyde, the first president of Ireland was provided with a state car, but his near fatal stroke early into his term of office meant that he rarely travelled in public. When he retired in 1945 the Irish state decided that, his successor, Seán T. O'Kelly, needed a special state vehicle for formal occasions. However what type of vehicle it should be caused an immediate row between the President-elect Seán T. O'Kelly and the Taoiseach, Éamon de Valera. O'Kelly wanted to have a state horse-drawn carriage whereas de Valera wished to have a car.
Initially O'Kelly got his wish and he was transported to the 1945 Irish presidential inauguration in the landau of the late Queen Alexandra the Queen Mother, which had been hired specially from a Dublin livery company. The landau was accompanied by the Irish presidential Mounted Escort, the Blue Hussars.
Contrary to expectations, the use of the landau proved a major success. In response, the new Irish state travel company, Córas Iompair Éireann (CIÉ) offered to build a special presidential carriage for use on state occasions. However in his enthusiasm for the project and contrary to warnings that the horses had not yet been fully trained to deal with crowds, the President insisted that the new carriage, drawn by horses, be used to bring him to the historic Dublin Horse Show at the Royal Dublin Society in August 1946. The crowds stood up and cheered as the President and Mrs O'Kelly entered the showgrounds in the carriage. The horses took fright, reared up and the coach jackknifed. De Valera seized the moment and abolished the use of the presidential carriage (except for going to the RDS). Instead he ordered that the Irish state buy a new Rolls-Royce. The Blue Hussars were abolished the following year.
The car was always maintained by the Department of Defence and driven by a Military driver, until President Erskine H. Childers took office, then it was passed over to the Garda Síochána where it had been maintained since and driven by a Garda.
It is necessary to emphasize that the car was almost sold off by the government of the day at the end of the 1960's early 70's but due to the intervention of some classic cars enthusiasts it was saved for the state.

Though used by Seán T. O'Kelly from 1947 the car is most strongly associated with his successor, Éamon de Valera, who served two full terms, holding office from 1959 to 1973. De Valera came to embody the presidency, with its symbols in turn associated personally with him, it earned the nickname Dev's Car because of his high profile use of it. Part of that was a product of the appearance of Telifís Éireann[1], Ireland's national broadcasting station, during his first term, allowing a greater public profile for whomever was president.

The historic 1947 Rolls-Royce has continued to be used in some state ceremonies, such as the National Day of Commemoration and most notably at the Irish presidential inauguration, where the car is used to transport the President (or president-elect) to and from the ceremony in Dublin Castle. It was used most recently at the 2004 inauguration of the eighth president of Ireland, Mary McAleese.
For day to day transport, the President uses a Mercedes-Benz S-Class.

Amazing to think it was nearly sold off.Has there been anymore presidential/state cars apart from the rolls?

When DeValera left the Aras both the Dodge and Rolls were available to him.
Since then the Rolls has been used at all of the inauguration cermonies and since then the main Presidential cars were mainly Mercedes (never a 600 pullman) and BMW 7 series ( the BMW was used during the Robinson term of office) and the current Presidential car is an S Class Mercedes.

MorrisCooper

The crest on top of the Dodge looks like U-na-E which could have been Uachtaran na h-Eireann

Lauder

carchaeologist wrote: »

Is it his family crest or a government emblem?Hard to make it out.

It has the Irish Harp and the letters 'U na E' Uachtaran na Eireann.

Not near as nice as the Royal Family's car badge!

124 man

I believe one of jack lynchs granadas is in county limerick , I think he got to keep his last state car