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carfan

Im selling my car soon (may wait for 2010 to buy at this stage) but would like opinions on my list I have narrowed it down to.

I am buying straight cash deal (not trading) and will look to buy up North or from UK. Preference is for brand new but would consider garage demo

Ford Focus RS
Subaru Impreza WRX STi
VW Golf GTi MKVI

Any other I should consider?

Cheerz!

Drummerboy08

Subaru Impreza WRX STi

If it was me, I'd be going for the Focus. Only if it was blue mind you. The green is horrible.

I also wouldnt be quick to count Irish dealers out - I would still shop around down here. If a dealer has one of these particular cars in stock, he'll give his left arm to sell it. You may still get a good deal, particularly on the RS. I priced one up a few months ago for a guy on here, and i got a good discount off the list price.

EPM

Subaru Impreza WRX STi

Pre tax prices in Ireland are usually lower for the cars. Bringing in a new one *could* see the price after VAT and VRT go above the Irish level.

I'd pick the Focus too fwiw

Saab Ed

None of the above for me .....sorry :cool:

JHMEG

carfan wrote: »

I am buying straight cash deal (not trading) and will look to buy up North or from UK. Prefence is for brand new but would consider garage demo

You will potentially pay VAT twice if you buy a car less than 6 months old from the UK.

bazz26

Subaru Impreza WRX STi

The Focus RS is in short supply too, it could prove hard enough finding one here or in the UK. You may have to join a waiting list but it would be my choice of those three.

mick.fr

JHMEG wrote: »

You will potentially pay VAT twice if you buy a car less than 6 months old from the UK.

No if the car is bought in UK for export you do not pay VAT in the UK, Ireland only. Which is not the way it should be working...Just some good Irish Revenue scam, as always...

Biro

VW Golf GTi MKVI

Golf is a little tame compared to the STI and the RS. You could throw an Evo X into the equation, or on the refined end of the scale an Audi S3. A Golf R32 would be more on par with an STI, but the Mk6 version isn't around yet. Don't know if there will be one, might be a more highly tuned 2 litre turbo instead.

Biro

VW Golf GTi MKVI

Apparently the R32 replacement might be called the R20. See here:
http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/Volkswagen-Golf/239365/

Alternatively you could look at an Abt version:
http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/Volkswagen-Golf/241498/

bazzachazza

Subaru Impreza WRX STi

mick.fr wrote: »

No if the car is bought in UK for export you do not pay VAT in the UK, Ireland only. Which is not the way it should be working...Just some good Irish Revenue scam, as always...

Correct me if I'm wrong you pay some VAT if the car is less than 6 months old and has less than 6000miles on it.

Lex Luthor

Subaru Impreza WRX STi

The Focus or the EvoX as Biro mentioned....

--Kaiser--

None of the Above, Mitsubishi Evo X

Henry Ford III

Subaru Impreza WRX STi

Great choices there.

Golf isn't even at the races with 200bhp. Still a great car though. Subaru in it's latest guise gets mixed reviews, and has huge running costs.

Focus RS wins. Go for Blue, or white.

carfan

Biro wrote: »

Alternatively you could look at an Abt version:
http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/Volkswagen-Golf/241498/

That is something I'd consider. Would Irish dealers get their hands on one?

carfan

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Great choices there.

Golf isn't even at the races with 200bhp. Still a great car though. Subaru in it's latest guise gets mixed reviews, and has huge running costs.

Focus RS wins. Go for Blue, or white.

Focus seems to be winning this one!

Anyone driven the new Focus RS yet?

Biro

VW Golf GTi MKVI

carfan wrote: »

That is something I'd consider. Would Irish dealers get their hands on one?

Dunno, might be hard, but a dealer in the North would! The 295bhp version might be a nice one! It's always nice to have something that seems normal, but in reality is a little left of centre!

carfan

Biro wrote: »

Dunno, might be hard, but a dealer in the North would! The 295bhp version might be a nice one! It's always nice to have something that seems normal, but in reality is a little left of centre!

That's pretty much what I'm looking for.

Mitsubishi Evo X seems pricey here - €65+ new??

Typewriter

VW Golf GTi MKVI

You could wait until late 2010 and get this...

carfan

green_jesus wrote: »

You could wait until late 2010 and get this...

Im impressed (no pun intended). At this stage im prepared to wait until 2010 to buy. Good find

rrrkelly

you are obviously minted, ye?

carfan

rrrkelly wrote: »

you are obviously minted, ye?

Completely off topic!

EPM

Subaru Impreza WRX STi

Thats not a real pic of the Imprezza coupe and based on that publications usual renderings it may be a likle bit off...

rrrkelly wrote: »

you are obviously minted, ye?

Your point being?

Drummerboy08

Subaru Impreza WRX STi

I quoted a guy on here €44,500 OTR for an RS recently. That had extra's too.

At that price, its no different that someone coming on here looking for a new 3 series or C Class.

futura123

audi TTS...... fabulous car to drive and 0-100km in 4.9 secs!!!! its a headturner!!!! the tt rs is the flagship but is only marginally quicker!!! i drove one in UK but I wnt be changing my 08 black TTS in a hurry

carfan

futura123 wrote: »

audi TTS...... fabulous car to drive and 0-100km in 4.9 secs!!!! its a headturner!!!! the tt rs is the flagship but is only marginally quicker!!! i drove one in UK but I wnt be changing my 08 black TTS in a hurry

Haven't driven the new model TT, test drove the older 1.8T a few years back but decided against it as I needed the rear seats. Now not too concerned about that now as the other half has the estate for all that

TTS is not within budget unfortunately and I see there's a TT RS! :eek:

kuro_man

Scirocco (2.0L DSG)?
Like a TT but less girly and has rear seats with leg-room.

carfan

kuro_man wrote: »

Scirocco (2.0L DSG)?
Like a TT but less girly and has rear seats with leg-room.

Doesn't really do it for me. I wouldn't consider it, no.

futura123

kuro_man wrote: »

Scirocco (2.0L DSG)?
Like a TT but less girly and has rear seats with leg-room.

old TT aka mark one was girly!!! mark two TT definately not girly!!!
the general opinion seems to be that the scirocco is a girly car

futura123

For a few extra grand , a mark 2 TT definately has the edge on the scirocco!!! faster, leaner, and doesnt look like a glorified golf!!:D

Spudzz

carfan wrote: »

Im selling my car soon (may wait for 2010 to buy at this stage) but would like opinions on my list I have narrowed it down to.

I am buying straight cash deal (not trading) and will look to buy up North or from UK. Preference is for brand new but would consider garage demo

Ford Focus RS
Subaru Impreza WRX STi
VW Golf GTi MKVI

Any other I should consider?

Cheerz!

The new Mazda 3MPS is due out shortly.:cool: Has 263bhp

Zonda999

Subaru Impreza WRX STi

EPM wrote: »

Thats not a real pic of the Imprezza coupe and based on that publications usual renderings it may be a likle bit off...

I had my doubts too. Despite Subaru's iffy styling lately, i'd still consider that hideous.

OP, I imagine insurance costs would be a lot more in the Subaru and Focus, than in the Golf. Road tax will be as well ultimately, 1050€ in the focus, compared to €460 in the mk6 GTi

bumble1

Subaru Impreza WRX STi

i am getting a blue Focus RS they are amazing love them the Subaru is boring and ugly and the Golf is slow and boring

Hal1

VW Golf GTi MKVI

Subaru for the 4wd.

unkel

Zonda999 wrote: »

Road tax will be as well ultimately, 1050€ in the focus, compared to €460 in the mk6 GTi

And motor tax will be €2100 for the Subaru!

Zonda999

Subaru Impreza WRX STi

unkel wrote: »

And motor tax will be €2100 for the Subaru!

Interestingly too, the Focus RS emits 225g/km co2 so if it emitted 1 more, it's also would be 2100€! Seeing as the ST is in the same band, i think the ST is now pointless, any prospective buyers should go for the RS!

Similarly, the Mk6 Golf GTi emits 170g/km so its road tax is 447€. 1 more though, and it's too would be up a band to 630€!

Henry Ford III

Subaru Impreza WRX STi

Zonda999 wrote: »

Interestingly too, the Focus RS emits 225g/km co2 so if it emitted 1 more, it's also would be 2100€! Seeing as the ST is in the same band, i think the ST is now pointless, any prospective buyers should go for the RS!

If money were no object I'd agree. There's a big price difference however.

Lex Luthor

Subaru Impreza WRX STi

another one due for release in 2010 in the Fiat Bravo Abarth...

no info to be found on it anywhere yet though

Zonda999

Subaru Impreza WRX STi

Henry Ford III wrote: »

If money were no object I'd agree. There's a big price difference however.

Focus ST 3dr - € 36,755
Focus RS - € 43,565

€7000 difference but the RS is definitely €7000 better! I wonder how long you'd be waiting if you ordered an RS from a dealer here?

Henry Ford III

Subaru Impreza WRX STi

Zonda999 wrote: »

Focus ST 3dr - € 36,755
Focus RS - € 43,565

€7000 difference but the RS is definitely €7000 better! I wonder how long you'd be waiting if you ordered an RS from a dealer here?

A few months at least. €7k difference is less than I'd figured actually.

Drummerboy08

Subaru Impreza WRX STi

Henry Ford III wrote: »

A few months at least. €7k difference is less than I'd figured actually.

There are a number in stock, so if you were happy with whatever the dealer had, you could drive away in one today.

If it was a factory order, it would be a few months alright.

robtri

Subaru Impreza WRX STi

not sure if your budget car spare it.... €60K brand new ... due to be released in 2010... Lotus Evora..... something different and a bit special

full details at http://www.lotusevora.com/

0-60 4.9 secs.... top speed 162MPH
mid mounted engine....

205g/km of CO2 and 32.5mph....

unkel

Zonda999 wrote: »

Interestingly too, the Focus RS emits 225g/km co2 so if it emitted 1 more, it's also would be 2100€!

Yeah spotted that too. Technically if you tick a few options like an upgraded stereo it should be in the highest rate too, hehe

UhOh

Subaru Impreza WRX STi

carfan wrote: »

Anyone driven the new Focus RS yet?

I would consider myself one of the lucky few who has the 09 RS. I wouldnt even consider the GTI tbh, as for the others mentioned, the STi & Evo X are both 60 grand plus motors in Ireland & in the top road tax bracket. The Focus RS is hands down the best value for money. Gets a little too much attention though for my liking. I'd say if you ordered now your probably looking at January/February delivery

Lex Luthor

Subaru Impreza WRX STi

robtri wrote: »

205g/km of CO2 and 32.5mph....

Too slow

Dave.

Something different
C30 T5

bumble1

Subaru Impreza WRX STi

the tax on an RS is 1000 cause i know a person who owns one and my ST is a 1000 aswell

BArra

Subaru Impreza WRX STi

1120e to be exact :pac:

get the rs, hands down

bumble1

Subaru Impreza WRX STi

te RS is 1050e