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marks for speed

  • 05-08-2009 1:53pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭


    When do they tend to mark you on your speed in a 50kph zone is it at say 55 or nearer 60 Some parts of test routes are down hill or when accelerating going up the gears sometimes you can go a little over the limit for a short period before you spot it :D or do they make any allowance at all?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 135 ✭✭gillo_100


    I'm really not sure if you are joking or not. If you break the law it will be an instant fail. You should be aware of your speed at all times and correct before you break any limits.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭Dankoozy


    Sunjammer wrote: »
    When do they tend to mark you on your speed in a 50kph zone is it at say 55 or nearer 60 Some parts of test routes are down hill or when accelerating going up the gears sometimes you can go a little over the limit for a short period before you spot it :D or do they make any allowance at all?

    if you are a little bit over the limit you are probably not actually over the limit because the speedo always reads something like 3-10% over, but don't push your luck with this one. better safe than sorry


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭bean na gaeilge


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    Sunjammer wrote: »
    When do they tend to mark you on your speed in a 50kph zone is it at say 55 or nearer 60 Some parts of test routes are down hill or when accelerating going up the gears sometimes you can go a little over the limit for a short period before you spot it :D or do they make any allowance at all?

    You'll just have to try and stick to the speed limit where possible - the most marks that you'll lose will be on progress (unless you are really speeding obviously!) so you should drive where possible to the speed limit - mar shampla if the limit is 50 then you should keep up to 50 where possible or else you'll get penalised for progress- if travelling 60 in a 50 they won't be impressed but they won't take much notice if you are doing 53 in a 50- just try your best to stick to it... practice makes perfect you'll be fine!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭JackieChan


    Sunjammer wrote: »
    When do they tend to mark you on your speed in a 50kph zone is it at say 55 or nearer 60 Some parts of test routes are down hill or when accelerating going up the gears sometimes you can go a little over the limit for a short period before you spot it :D or do they make any allowance at all?

    To be honest these show that you are not in control of the vehicle. Hardly inspiring to a tester to pass you!
    Personally I'd stick to 45-48 region


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,763 ✭✭✭Jax Teller


    Sunjammer wrote: »
    When do they tend to mark you on your speed in a 50kph zone is it at say 55 or nearer 60 Some parts of test routes are down hill or when accelerating going up the gears sometimes you can go a little over the limit for a short period before you spot it :D or do they make any allowance at all?
    that has to be one the stupidest things ive ever read , speed limits apply at all times !!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭Sunjammer


    that has to be one the stupidest things ive ever read , speed limits apply at all times !!!!

    I'm afraid you're on the wrong forum this is a learning to drive forum where no question is stupid! Your reply is proof of this, If you don't understand my question you obviously don't drive ;) or just think that you can :D


    Anyone even instructors on here will tell you how easy it is to creep a little over the 50km limit without noticing it instantly I am not referring to tearing around like a boy racer and I don't think the tester would be impressed with someone constantly looking at their speedometer rather than the road and mirrors, the car is perfectly under control but on occasion it can creep up to 55 may-be a little more just like it can drop to 45ish before I take corrective action :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭bean na gaeilge


    Sunjammer wrote: »
    I'm afraid you're on the wrong forum this is a learning to drive forum where no question is stupid! Your reply is proof of this, If you don't understand my question you obviously don't drive ;) or just think that you can :D


    Anyone even instructors on here will tell you how easy it is to creep a little over the 50km limit without noticing it instantly I am not referring to tearing around like a boy racer and I don't think the tester would be impressed with someone constantly looking at their speedometer rather than the road and mirrors, the car is perfectly under control but on occasion it can creep up to 55 may-be a little more just like it can drop to 45ish before I take corrective action :)

    You Said It!!! Its very easy for people to judge... but for people who know what the driving test is all about they'll understand that nerves or determination to pass on their first attempt can lead to examining every aspect of their driving.... its called being careful and not stupid!!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,763 ✭✭✭Jax Teller


    Sunjammer wrote: »
    I'm afraid you're on the wrong forum this is a learning to drive forum where no question is stupid! Your reply is proof of this, If you don't understand my question you obviously don't drive ;) or just think that you can :D


    Anyone even instructors on here will tell you how easy it is to creep a little over the 50km limit without noticing it instantly I am not referring to tearing around like a boy racer and I don't think the tester would be impressed with someone constantly looking at their speedometer rather than the road and mirrors, the car is perfectly under control but on occasion it can creep up to 55 may-be a little more just like it can drop to 45ish before I take corrective action :)

    oh pardon my ignorance , i do drive i passed my driving test by staying slightly under the speed limit , ie on 80 km zone do 77/78 km , oh i know how it easy to go slightly above the speed limt . maybe i was bit harsh saying what i said


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭Hunchback


    recently my driving instructor answered this precise question for me. if you are in a 50kph zone, and you go to 34mph its a major error. if you go to 35mph, its an instant fail. if you drive consistantly at 32 or so, you will accrue minor errors. obviously they allow for circumstantial adjustments in speed depending on the traffic situation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 495 ✭✭brian076


    recently my driving instructor answered this precise question for me. if you are in a 50kph zone, and you go to 34mph its a major error. if you go to 35mph, its an instant fail. if you drive consistantly at 32 or so, you will accrue minor errors. obviously they allow for circumstantial adjustments in speed depending on the traffic situation

    It's a little confusing when you use both Kmh & MPH, but your instructor is wrong to say that you'd get an instant fail at 35mph which is about 55kmh. At this speed you may not even get a grade 2 fault. It depends on the area and the road, and while it's never advisable to go over the speed limit it's unusual to see Grade 3 faults on a Driving Test Report Sheet for speed.

    You also have to remember that in a lot of cars the tester can't actually see the speedometer (not just the Yaris), and in these cases they can't actually mark you for going over the speed limit, but they can give you marks under "Speed Road Conditions" or "Speed Traffic Conditions".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭DriveSkill


    Hi,

    I completely agree with Brian, there is no hard and fast rule. It is more to do with appropriate speed for the conditions - for example if there are kids just coming out of a school it is dangerous to drive by at 50km/hr even if that is the speed limit! That being said anything above 5km/hr is risking a fault being recorded so it is something to keep in mind.

    For the Cork route there are 2 main areas where you need to watch the speed. The first is going down Togher Road from the Sarsfield Rd Junction toward the Doughcloyne Hotel (I guess this is the hill you were thinking about in your original post :)). You certainly need to watch the speed here as its a long, straight road and very easy to creep up to 60km/hr in 4th gear - control the speed with gentle braking if in 4th gear, if in a lower gear the engine braking with help and little or no accelerator.

    The 2nd main area is the change from 100km/hr to 50km/hr as you come back the Ring Road towards the Sarsfield Rd roundabout - you must get the speed down for this. Plan ahead as you approach, if there is traffic close behind you need to start the braking early and more gently - dont slam on as you get to the 50km/hr sign :eek: If the road is quiet behind you can be a little more firm on the brakes and in a shorter distance but bear in mind you dont want to put the examiner through the windscreen with harsh braking!

    Good luck with the test!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭Sunjammer


    DriveSkill wrote: »
    Hi,

    The first is going down Togher Road from the Sarsfield Rd Junction toward the Doughcloyne Hotel (I guess this is the hill you were thinking about in your original post :)).

    You got it n one its very easy to creep above 50km going down there and especially if you are keeping up with traffic I doubt anyone is doing 50km down there outside of lessons and tests ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 368 ✭✭DrivingInfo


    Hi Sunjammer

    The speed limit is what you’re legally allowed to do it not a target so keep an eye on it and adjust your speed as necessary.

    Remember you always drive at a speed which is suitable for the conditions.

    Regards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    I'd say that the testers often gauge your speed in relation to cars around you as well. So go with the general traffic flow - while staying at the speed limit.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭Sunjammer


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    I suppose it's just all part of observation really, glancing at the speedo, and I'm sure the testers know the spots on the routes to glance too :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭Sunjammer


    Yipppppppppppppppppppppeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 368 ✭✭DrivingInfo


    Sunjammer wrote: »
    Yipppppppppppppppppppppeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :)

    Well done :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭Sunjammer


    Well done :D

    Passed first time in Wilton (Cork City) on Friday and wait for the best bit.............. absolutely no as like zilch faults of any grade think I'll frame the test sheet.. had a tester named Liam an absolute gent wink.gif Talked away all the way through the entire test between his instructions not the formal school teacher stereotype I had expected at all it felt like just another lesson... Went and got my new 10 year pinky straight away over the counter in Bishopstown!

    A big thanks to everyone on here but especially to Donegalfella for the advise on my very first post seems like only yesterday wink.gif and a really big thanks for the advise via PM from Driveskill, and to Brian076, Drivinginfo etc etc to many to mention..wink.gif

    Indecently we went down that hill on Togher road from Sarfield road but I kept gentle pressure on the brake all the way down, giving a guy in a van road rage and he tore past us and cut in on us then the tester just said "Look at that gobsh1te, that's why insurance is so high in Ireland" :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 495 ✭✭brian076


    That's great well done, sounds like you got one of the best testers around.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭Sunjammer


    brian076 wrote: »
    That's great well done, sounds like you got one of the best testers around.


    Or may-be he had one of the best test candidates around :p:pac::pac::pac::pac:

    He was sound, when I saw him first I thought he'd be the strictest because he was the oldest of the testers there I'd say he's not got too many years to go to retirement, When we went back in to his desk another tester came in and was chatting away too, may-be they just all had that Friday feeling :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭DriveSkill


    Congratulations and well done!


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