HOI 3

Krusader

So Hearts of Iron 3 will be released next week, will anyone else here be buying it

VonLuck

I have Hearts of Iron 2. Very in depth game, requires a lot of time. I'm sure HoI 3 will be the same. Don't know what they can do different with it this time round, besides the 3D engine (which isnt that big a deal). I doubt it'll be a huge leap forward but I'm keeping my hopes up!

Krusader

They have new Theatres of War,
the AI is supposed to be much superior
Over 10,000 provinces
country decisions

Krusader

Demo has been released

http://www.fileplanet.com/promotions/demos/hearts-of-iron-3.aspx?_cmpid=fp191

VonLuck

Cheers for that. Downloading now.

VonLuck

Just loaded it up quickly before I go to work. Looks much better then HoI 2, and much more provinces. I noticed that Ireland must have around 30 provinces, although many of them have unusual names. I thought they'd have the counties, instead some of them have town names on them such as "Mullingar". Many mispellings as well, such as Letteskenny or Yaughen (presume they meant Youghal).

Minor issues I guess. But it looks promising!

P_1

VonLuck wrote: »

Just loaded it up quickly before I go to work. Looks much better then HoI 2, and much more provinces. I noticed that Ireland must have around 30 provinces, although many of them have unusual names. I thought they'd have the counties, instead some of them have town names on them such as "Mullingar". Many mispellings as well, such as Letteskenny or Yaughen (presume they meant Youghal).

Minor issues I guess. But it looks promising!

I think they base the province names on a specific town within that region.

Plenty of gliches by all accounts but at least Paradox regularly update with free patches. Should be fantastic once we get to HOI 3. 1.2

Rybka

This is the game I am most looking forward to. On pre-order - release date the 21st from Amazon.

From reports I think I will hold off on installing - too many bugs at the moment.

I don't really care about the new pretty graphics - but if the AI is improved this should be a very special game.

Polar101

Patch 1.1 seems to be out, so perhaps it will make the game more playable. I think I might pick this one up if it's not too expensive, Paradox games are usually well worth the money (after a few patches).

Pyr0

I only had a quick (lol) go of it there and I'm liking it. Always find it hard to get the ball rolling but that's another issue ! One thing I don't like though is the new way they've conducted the research, different levels of the same technology. Can be very headwrecking if you don't switch the researching over to something else. The recruitment pool is very clustered and confusing when compared to HOI 2.

kowloon

The game is heading for patch 1.3 now and as such is still riddled with bugs.
Then there are larger issues like the disaster that is the map and the awkward and laggy gui.

Like most Paradox games, including EU3 and Hearts of Iron 2, I can see it being a wait of a year or two before the game realises its potential.

silverharp

A couple of questions on HOI3. Playing the Germans I was trying to launch U-boats at the start of the war but it wouldnt let me place any on the Atlantic side of Britain (all the mission options were grayed out) any reason why?

Also when I started mapping units to a HQ it didnt seem to give a full list of HQ's for certain units?

Is it better to leave your HG behind you main fighting force or is it better to have them stacked with the rest?

When attacking Holland , their HQ kept escaping to one of the islands off the coast , do I have to attach some boats to a division?

Cheers in Advance

Krusader

You might get ur questions answered better here
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=415

Niska

Should be worth noting the game is currently half-price on Steam ("mid-week madness"):

http://store.steampowered.com/app/25890/

edit: Offer valid until Friday.

Sand

Gamersgate have reduced the price to 10 GBP now, permamently?

This is invoking much nerdrage on the official forums as the early adopters ( or beta testers as I like to call them) are giving out that they forked out a lot more money for a game with a lot of bugs, and now just as its patched up to 1.3 and a decent state Johnny Come Latelys arrive up on a bargain? Where were they when the nights were grim, when CTDs threatened, every mouse click was a potential BSOD and so on? Oh Paradox, why hast thou forsaken us?

I myself am quite pleased that my patient strategy has paid off - bargain price, most bugs patched out, and the game is looking great: mods and stat tools are maturing... Awesome.

Krusader

I didnt buy it either, not really my timeframe, more of a EUIII CK fanboy

Sand

I have been playing CK recently, though Ive just about got Ireland unified and I dont plan much more expansion beyond that: prepping it for a transfer to EU3 and a colonial game. Not enthralled with EU3 anymore though - stuck in a badboy spiral of boredom with Ireland: just war, war, war,war. Half thinking of just forcing peace via cheats so I can release vassals and get the game back to being something other than day by day war across the globe for decades.

Have been playing tons of HoI2 and Rome recently. Going to jump in and see how my HoI2 experiences help. I didnt think Id like the period myself, but theres something awesome about rolling 127 divisions like a hammer of god through the Ardennes and into Paris. Plus the anticipation of a Barbarossa - trying to determine just the right time to start rolling forward onto the steppes across a huge frontline.

Krusader

I can't wait for a CK2, that will be epic
I wont be buying HTTT either €20 is too costly for a 3rd expansion
I've spend over €100 on EUIII already, I'll wait till it drops to a €10 after Xmas on GG

kowloon

I'm one of those fools who bought HOI3, I still don't play it, it's too unbalanced and buggy enough to be annoying even with the third major patch. Won't be making the same mistake again, I'll be giving the next game a good long wait before I buy it.

Sand

Im liking it so far, though Ive spent about 6 hours poking and pushing things on my German 1936 start, and I've not hit unpause \0/.

HoI2 was always kinda the same sort of momentum of checking and double checking stuff before hitting unpause - the first few weeks were always the most hectic as you got the train rolling, everything after that part was throwing all your weight to one side or another with the train generally rolling in the same broad direction you determined back on 0:00 Jan 1st 1936, total victory!

I tend to be pretty cautious on new games - I almost never buy anything on its first week of release ( Dragon Age the exception). Wait a few weeks, patches hit, mods start appearing, and with HoI3 there was a perfectly good substitute - a nicely modified HoI 2 which I played solidly from August onwards and will probably still play.

Id reckon you couldnt really go wrong at 10 GBP though - Paradox have a good rep for supporting their games and patching them to a very good state: EU3 apparently wasnt all that great on its first release, but it is an exceptional game with the current expansions and patches. HoI3 must be viewed on the same timelines. This isnt Gear of War, some flash hype: its a slow burning, long term game with a lot of replay value. Give it a year of support, plus the rather awesome potential of the division creator, the theatre command structure and the new technology system...this is a decent game as it stands, it will be a great game by the time HoI4 is being talked about.

I just hope people dont get pre-emptively down on HoI3 - People still seem to assume Rome is a terrible game without recognising Vae Victus and the patches since have made it into a quality title.

Krusader

What annoyed be 'bout Rome was there wasn't enough factions

Sand

That was simply the era - there wasnt a lot of significantly powerful factions other than those clustered around the med. If you werent sitting on the med in that era, or closely linked to that world then you were probably nobody.