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Temp Speed Limits

  • 31-07-2009 1:13pm
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    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    A quick question for you legal folk;

    For the last year the local council have been doing some arsed road surfacing on a main road. The speed limit usually is 80km/hr but the council have placed road work signs indicating loose chippings with an attached sign indicating the speed limit is 25km/hr.

    1) Is it right that there is no 25m/hr speed limit in Ireland?
    2) If the speed limit was correct, is it just a matter of placing down the signs or do advanced notices in local papers etc. need to be given before it may be enforced?

    The above is what we think is correct (on the Waterford County forum), but I said I would double check :)

    Thanks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭servicecharge


    My understanding is that 30kmph is the lowest enforceable limit.

    In order for a council to make a special speed limit they must do so by way of a bye-law. If it is part of a national road then the NRA is a notice party. The gardai are also a notice party. Bye laws must be published in Irish Oifiguil (which can be searched online).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,041 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    AFAIK it has to be formally adopted at a county council meeting before it becomes 'legal'.

    Yes, 25kph is not a proper speed limit. I spotted a 55kph the other day also. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Where does that leave those 10 km/h type posted limits on private lands such as hospitals?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭servicecharge


    Well I've never seen a speed check in a 10kmph zone.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    True but they always struck me farcical and unenforceable.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    They are totally unenforceable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    Here is an example of a properly enacted temporary speed limit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,786 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    Sully wrote: »
    A quick question for you legal folk;

    For the last year the local council have been doing some arsed road surfacing on a main road. The speed limit usually is 80km/hr but the council have placed road work signs indicating loose chippings with an attached sign indicating the speed limit is 25km/hr.

    1) Is it right that there is no 25m/hr speed limit in Ireland?
    2) If the speed limit was correct, is it just a matter of placing down the signs or do advanced notices in local papers etc. need to be given before it may be enforced?

    The above is what we think is correct (on the Waterford County forum), but I said I would double check :)

    Thanks.


    I'm not a legal folker or an illegal one either but I'll try to answer anyways.:)

    Was is a normal round sign with a red border or a rectangular sign?

    If the former then it's not a legal limit
    Road works Speed Limit or Special Speed Limit: Either speed limit signs is displayed as per RUS 039 to RUS 044 and indicate the maximum allowable speed applying to a road. They consist of a white disc with a red border and black text. The maximum permitted speed, in kilometres per hour, is shown, above the SI notation ‘km/h’.
    Either Speed Limit signs shall show, on both sides of the road, a speed of a 120, 100, 80, 60, 50 or 30km/h. No other speed limit shall be shown.
    Repeater signs shall be provided at a maximum of 500m intervals and after a junction
    Refer to Chapter 5 for further details
    If it's the latter then it's a Cautionary speed sign and is only a recommendation, not a legal limit.
    Cautionary Speed: this plate may be used in conjunction with Sign WK 001, Roadworks Ahead, Sign WK 072, Slippery Road, or Sign WK 073, Loose Chippings, to indicate the speed which traffic is recommended not to exceed. The speed displayed must be one from the following list: 25, 35, 45, 55, 65 or 75km/h. See Section 8.3.3.
    http://www.transport.ie/upload/general/9095-0.doc
    (I've bolded the interesting bits.)


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