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Have you flown to Canada recently?

  • 31-07-2009 2:00am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭


    Hello, I am thinking about visiting a long lost friend in Montreal at Christmas and I want to know if upon entry into Canada are your fingerprints scanned?

    I tried googling for the answer but to no avail!

    The reason why I'm asking is that I have a great disdain for any form of biometrics as I believe it is an infringement of our rights.

    Please let me know as soon as possible as the plane tickets aren't getting any cheaper.

    P.S. If I posted this in the wrong thread, then PM me and I'll move it to the correct one.

    Any assistance would be greated.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭Captain Corelli


    Just back from Canada as tourist. Entering Canada immigration official asks a few questions on where you're from/going.

    I am sure details recorded from passport, but no fingerprints taken.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭Leidenfrost


    That's great! thank you friend!
    I'm looking at flights and none seem to be direct to my destination of Montreal, the two options are:
    DUB-->New york--> Montreal
    &
    DUB-->PARIS-->Montreal

    Did you have to stop over in the US on your travels? and since the
    DUB---> New York--> Montreal flight is cheaper I would like to purchase that ticket, the only question I have with this is, if I stop over at New York will I be required to have my personal biometric info taken from me, e.g fingerprints, even if I don't leave the airport?

    I would love to not have to stop over in the US, damn Air France and their higher prices!

    Correspondence welcome!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,939 ✭✭✭mikedragon32


    What about via LHR or maybe Frankfurt?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,924 ✭✭✭✭BuffyBot


    If you go via any US airport, you will have to undergo the same procedures as other visitors - i.e. photographic/biometric data taken.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭Leidenfrost


    BuffyBot wrote: »
    If you go via any US airport, you will have to undergo the same procedures as other visitors - i.e. photographic/biometric data taken.

    Really? ah fiddle sticks! could you by any chance tell me how you know this? I'd just like to be 100% that they will enforce those Orwellian laws if I fly via NJ, thanks for your correspondence!

    To reply to the person suggesting to fly via Frankfurt, I have not seen any other cheap flights for sale that go from there, thanks for you help though!
    I was on a cancer drug that diminished my fingerprints to almost nothing and I am worried about getting through the fingerprinting, my fear isn't groundless as a few other people have had serious problems in the past e.g http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8064332.stm

    Anyways, in this day of age wouldn't any reasonable intelligent criminal just plant other peoples fingerprints at his crime scene with the aim to obfuscate the detectives, with a database of fingerprints wouldn't the detectives focus on say my prints and chase me down while the real criminal get away?
    See the dangers of such reliance on technology? We have seen the effects innumerable times, the most recent being the air france crash in the atlantic recently, it is believed some instruments failed and neither the pilot or co-pilot knew how to navigate using the stars (any plebian pirate would have been able to do this), and from the fact the pilots body was recovered it is postulated he wasn't even in the cockpit at the time of the crash.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,924 ✭✭✭✭BuffyBot


    Really? ah fiddle sticks! could you by any chance tell me how you know this? I'd just like to be 100% that they will enforce those Orwellian laws if I fly via NJ, thanks for your correspondence!

    Simply because they do it to everyone.
    To reply to the person suggesting to fly via Frankfurt, I have not seen any other cheap flights for sale that go from there, thanks for you help though!
    I was on a cancer drug that diminished my fingerprints to almost nothing and I am worried about getting through the fingerprinting, my fear isn't groundless as a few other people have had serious problems in the past e.g http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8064332.stm

    Follow the advice in the article about having doctor's letter's etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,476 ✭✭✭ardmacha


    You'll need to avoid flying through the US in this case.

    However it seems to me that fingerprinting in this case has nothing to do with crime scenes or the like. Passports have long had a picture of your face and this is often photocopied by banks, hotels etc. Now they are photographing your finger, all the better to prove that you are you, rather than someone pretending to be you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭Leidenfrost


    ardmacha wrote: »
    You'll need to avoid flying through the US in this case.

    However it seems to me that fingerprinting in this case has nothing to do with crime scenes or the like. Passports have long had a picture of your face and this is often photocopied by banks, hotels etc. Now they are photographing your finger, all the better to prove that you are you, rather than someone pretending to be you.

    Or an over reliance on what the passport says? Fingerprints can be faked you know, and it doesn't take an evil genius to do it, just making identity crime that much more lucrative.

    and might I add that the '' what have I got to hide?'' mentality really helped keep Nazi germany free when people said that to themselves when they voted yes to Hitler's enabling act.
    It is, and will always will be, the true cry of the lunatic!
    ''Where's your papers!''


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭FunkyDa


    Maybe this thread should be in After Hours? :confused:


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