claud bulter

jwshooter · 27-07-2009 5:24pm #1

hi all. the claud bulter, in a strada or torino any comments ?

oflahero · 27-07-2009 5:28pm

jwshooter wrote: »

hi all the claud bulter in a stada or torino any comments

And in English?

jwshooter · 27-07-2009 6:53pm

as little as i know ,i know what a claud butler is.

thats for your comment all the same

Profiler · 27-07-2009 7:00pm

By the magic of punctuation... (and a wee bit of guess work...)

jwshooter wrote: »

hi all,

the claud bulter stada? or torino

any comments

blorg · 27-07-2009 7:42pm

Neither, get a Focus or a Boardman. Seriously.

jwshooter · 27-07-2009 7:53pm

blorg wrote: »

Neither, get a Focus or a Boardman. Seriously.

hi blorg i sat on a trek 1.2/1.5/1.9 today and a torino today.

the torino was a lovely lite bike ,is there any where i can see the focus or boardman in the southeast .

what kind of money are you chatting about for a carbon bike in the two you have named with a good kit on it.

thanks jw

blorg · 27-07-2009 8:05pm

Both the carbon Boardman and the Focus Cayo 105 are ~£1,000 from Halfords and Wiggle respectively. The Boardman has a mostly SRAM rival groupset which is probably a bit better than Shimano 105. I had a Cayo before and it was a very nice bike. Planet X is also a good option if you can stretch the budget a bit, they have one at £1,000 with a mostly 105/Ultegra mix, an extra £100 if you want them to build it for you.

jwshooter · 27-07-2009 8:17pm

blorg wrote: »

Both the carbon Boardman and the Focus Cayo 105 are ~£1,000 from Halfords and Wiggle respectively. The Boardman has a mostly SRAM rival groupset which is probably a bit better than Shimano 105. I had a Cayo before and it was a very nice bike. Planet X is also a good option if you can stretch the budget a bit, they have one at £1,000 with a mostly 105/Ultegra mix, an extra £100 if you want them to build it for you.

its a 58-60 cm i am looking for .
i have a price on the butler ,strada of a 1,000 euro .

blorg · 27-07-2009 8:42pm

I have never ridden one but Claud Butler don't really have a great reputation, especially not for road bikes. Someone else posted on here that in their opinion it was not a good bike.

BTW oflahero's point is reasonable, you will get better answers if you take the time to post more coherent questions. Regarding those two CB bikes 105 is better than Tiagra. Whether it is worth paying X where we don't know the value of X is another question.

kenmc · 27-07-2009 9:10pm

jwshooter wrote: »

hi all. the claud bulter, in a strada or torino any comments ?

jwshooter wrote: »

as little as i know ,i know what a claud butler is.

Sure? Cos you spelt it wrong twice in the first post.
Either way, claud bu[lt][tl]er are very ordinary, and trading on an old 'good' name. Falcon cycles IIRC. Wouldn't touch them to be honest. Had a CB MTB for a couple of years, absolutely nothing special.

ednwireland · 27-07-2009 9:27pm

are all these questions about claud butlers cos the bike shops are pushing them because of the lack of bikes ? haven't heard of them for years and suddenly evryones asking about them

kenmc · 27-07-2009 9:28pm

yeah I'd imagine there's a sudden increase in the sound of scraping, and many more empty barrels.

thebouldwhacker · 27-07-2009 9:43pm

Warming up in here......

anyone care to choose one?

jwshooter · 27-07-2009 9:59pm

whats the pros and cons of the two bikes i mentioned ,im not into MTBs. Are all bike not just components on a frame.

so how good is the frame ?

blorg · 27-07-2009 11:06pm

Quigs, whose opinion I would respect, reckons the frame is shíte. Rob Fowl, whose opinion I would also respect, reckons it is a brand steeped in history... This is true but the same would go for Raleigh, doesn't mean I would buy one now.

http://tinyurl.com/no9gaj

Lumen · 28-07-2009 6:30am

jwshooter wrote: »

whats the pros and cons of the two bikes i mentioned ,im not into MTBs.

?

kenmc · 28-07-2009 8:05am

Why are you hooked on the CBs? There are many more brands available on the market, you asked for opinions on the CBs, you were told they were not great, yet you persist with CB. You've clearly made your mind up that you are going to buy one.

jwshooter · 28-07-2009 2:59pm

kenmc wrote: »

Why are you hooked on the CBs? There are many more brands available on the market, you asked for opinions on the CBs, you were told they were not great, yet you persist with CB. You've clearly made your mind up that you are going to buy one.

far from hooked on a CB never even sat on one there just coming in at good money .
any way thanks for the help ,i thing im buying a ridley excalibur full carbon with a ultegra set.

any one using one of them, any comments ? .thanks

Lumen · 28-07-2009 3:03pm

jwshooter wrote: »

I think I'm buying a Ridley Excalibur full carbon with an Ultegra groupset. Anyone using one of them, any comments? Thanks.

I find roadbikereview a good resource for specific models.

DirkVoodoo has a Ridley and it's right tasty.

blorg · 28-07-2009 3:57pm

The Ridley would be much better buy, I would go for that. With Ultegra that would be a fantastic bike, even with 105 it would be very nice. You may never need to buy another bike if you get the Ridley.

jwshooter · 28-07-2009 5:58pm

just brought it for a spin in the wind and rain feck its lite ! . ultegra rims on it also.
no beer and il be eating rabbits for a long time.

ROK ON · 28-07-2009 6:19pm

Best of look on the new bike. Throw up a pic of it.

On the rabbit thing. While very tasty, you cannot survive on a diet of rabbit. It is like celery in that it takes more calories to digest than is actually in the meat itself
:-)

RobFowl · 28-07-2009 6:39pm

jwshooter wrote: »

far from hooked on a CB never even sat on one there just coming in at good money .
any way thanks for the help ,i thing im buying a ridley excalibur full carbon with a ultegra set.

any one using one of them, any comments ? .thanks

I've a ridley excalibur which I've raced and trained on since 2004. It's a fabulous frame. I've no quibbles at all. It's even survived a bad crash (lost my upper lip, nose and 5 teeth but thank God the bike was ok :rolleyes:). Mine is built up with 9 speed dura ace and an FSA compact now but I can't recommend them highly enough.
Also have a Ridley Noah built up wiht Dura ace 7900, The frames is also fantastic less keen on the 7900 though only used since March and showing alot of wear and tear already. If I was choosing again woud have gone for a chorus groupo.
For road bikes Blorgs right re Focus and Boardman they have much better reputation as road bikes (as does the planet X).
Have a look at the Ribble website as well they have some really good deals at present (you would need to know your size in frames though )

jwshooter · 28-07-2009 7:52pm

thanks rob ,il keep the ridley i think .waisted on me at the moment .
il start up in the miles from now .

as far as the diet goes iv plenty of venison in the freezer and there is a field of spuds just up the road.

bulling to get out again this eve ,weather so bad this eve i did not let the dogs out in it.

walshy123 · 28-07-2009 9:27pm

jwshooter wrote: »

just brought it for a spin in the wind and rain feck its lite ! . ultegra rims on it also.
no beer and il be eating rabbits for a long time.

did you buy it so? what kind of money?

JacksonHeightsOwn · 28-07-2009 9:48pm

my mate is planning on getting a Claude Butler Vicenzo on thursday, should i tell him to steer clear?

rebel.ranter · 28-07-2009 10:55pm

I have just bought a Claud Butler Strada, I would not claim to know all about the world of bikes. I have had 2 Claud Bulter MTBs prior to this road bike (still have them 12 years later!).
I was originally after a Trek but due to lack of availability & advice from the shop (who's owner I know since his shop opened in 1989) I bought the Strada. The Strada has a carbon frame (with full Tiagra) & actiually looks to be better built than an equivalently priced Trek which seemed to have a bit of a mix & match group set). I know there's carbon frames & carbon frames with a world of difference (i.e. weight). I know you guys suggested other brands other than Trek but I was just giving my experience at purchase time. I was also looking at BH & Felt.
I only plan to use it for a bit of exercise 1-2hrs a night 3-4 nights a week, not competing in events or anything. I know weight is a big differentiator in bikes & that is one of the main differentiators between groupsets like Tiagra-105-Utegra-Dura Ace etc. I could probably shave a lot more weight off my own person that would contribute more than Ultegra components would yield in the weight saving department!

I am not trying to defend the Claud Butler brand or even defend my purchase I was just wondering why exactly they were bad?

jwshooter · 28-07-2009 11:04pm

i asked the same question ,as is it not only a frame with after market components on it .

kennys for bikes have a 56cm carbon CB for E1200 cant remember the group set.

RobFowl · 28-07-2009 11:11pm

rebel.ranter wrote: »

I am not trying to defend the Claud Butler brand or even defend my purchase I was just wondering why exactly they were bad?

Not a bad brand at all, It's basically a franchise at the moment but most carbon frames at entry level are much the same. CB have a better rep as MTB/hybrid/touring bikes though

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