Price change in Ikea ?

Daz R1

Anyone else notice an increase in the prices in Ikea up north ? My other half was up there during the week and noticed an increase in there prices allbit sligh prob nothing to do with them opening down here :D:D:D

Henry Ford III

Their Irish website is now live, and the Dublin store opened today.

I've done a couple of comparsions between the www.ikea.ie and www.ikea.co.uk website prices, taking into account exchange rate differentials of 15.5% STG£ vs €, and VAT (21.5% here and 15% there).

I calculate Dublin prices to be over 5% too high even after all that.

Any thoughts?

dudara

Threads merged.

toomevara

God, what is the fascination with Ikea in Ireland? Their stuff is pure tat. Even if it is relatively cheap at point of purchase, it won't last.

jhegarty

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Their Irish website is now live, and the Dublin store opened today.

I've done a couple of comparsions between the www.ikea.ie and www.ikea.co.uk website prices, taking into account exchange rate differentials of 15.5% STG£ vs €, and VAT (21.5% here and 15% there).

I calculate Dublin prices to be over 5% too high even after all that.

Any thoughts?

Given the higher costs in Ireland 5% seems quite reasonable.

Henry Ford III

jhegarty wrote: »

Given the higher costs in Ireland 5% seems quite reasonable.

5% higher than Belfast?

dudara

I presume what jhegarty is trying to say is that UK and ROI are different countries with different VAT rates, wages, costs of business etc.

Kintarō Hattori

toomevara wrote: »

God, what is the fascination with Ikea in Ireland? Their stuff is pure tat. Even if it is relatively cheap at point of purchase, it won't last.

Don't they give quite decent guarantees on alot of their products ranging from 10 years to 25 years. I wouldn't have thought they'd do that if it was of poor quality.

jhegarty

Henry Ford III wrote: »

5% higher than Belfast?

Higher minimum wage and insurance are the obvious first two.

Daz R1

Yes but given that there prices are higher down here that doesnt account for the price change up north !

newman10

Daz R1 wrote: »

Yes but given that there prices are higher down here that doesnt account for the price change up north !

Sterling / Euro movements have meant that Sterling prices are not as good and there is also the VAT increase to come in the north as well

Henry Ford III

jhegarty wrote: »

Higher minimum wage and insurance are the obvious first two.

I think they are two valid reasons ok.

moceri

I wonder why they decided to price their catalogue typically above those listed on their other European websites at about 30% extra. I suppose word got out that the Irish Market is a soft touch for Inflated Retailing.


I do not expect to pay Euro 869 for a sofa that is made from:"Particleboard, Fibreboard, Solid wood, Plywood & Cardboard" . I bet it would melt like a digestive biscuit if it got wet.

http://www.ikea.com/fr/fr/catalog/products/S09849574

http://www.ikea.com/de/de/catalog/products/S09849588

http://www.ikea.com/ie/en/catalog/products/S29849554

Adam anto

For our kitchen the difference is

Dublin - 2244
Belfast -1703

Above prices are in Euros and the Belfast price was converted from sterling at todays rate.

It's a shame coz it's just around the corner from me and now I still have to go to Belfast. (I have the free use of a van so it makes even more sense)

Anto

Adam anto

For our kitchen the difference is

Dublin - 2244
Belfast -1703

Above prices are in Euros and the Belfast price was converted from sterling at todays rate.

VAT doesn't come into it for me.. I can see it being a reason for a bit of a difference but it won't effect the total I spend out of my pocket.

It's a shame coz it's just around the corner from me and now I still have to go to Belfast. (I have the free use of a van so it makes even more sense)


Anto

ascottdub

Yeap. Belfast has upped their prices and on some items by a significant amount. Very dissapointing, but still cheaper than Dublin.

Shoppers will go North if the saving is big enough.

Examples from today:
A tap that is 151.95 euro in Belfast and 179 euro here. Nearly 30 euro folks.
Blinds, both black out & wood were close enough in price not to warrant a trip up to Belfast.
Malm bed and sliding shelf head board. You must be kidding, way outpriced here, but has gone up slightly in Belfast.
Billy bookcase with extension & all the bits & bobs was again close enough not to warrant trip to Belfast.
Happy with opening but very dissapointed that they didn't have specials for the day, seeing it was their opening day.
Thanks

Alun

toomevara wrote: »

God, what is the fascination with Ikea in Ireland? Their stuff is pure tat. Even if it is relatively cheap at point of purchase, it won't last.

I'm still using Ikea stuff (shelving, table and chairs) that I bought in Germany in 1981 and my computer desk and office furniture that I bought in the Netherlands in 1990, and none of them are anywhere near the end of their lives. So that's that theory blown out of the water then.

Carlow52

IKEA Belfast N54 37.346 W5 51.793
Pick up A55 ring road at N54 32.783 W5 55.878

from
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safe journey

ps the above avoids downtown Bfast

Sleipnir

2244 is still pretty good for a kitchen in my book!
Did you allow for the 6.5% VAT difference?

faceman

Hmmm, Ikea were on the radio today saying how their pricing would be no different than NI.

Bandit12

Sleipnir wrote: »

2244 is still pretty good for a kitchen in my book!
Did you allow for the 6.5% VAT difference?

It is a good price but the OP is still right. I'd be taking my business up North if i where him. More evidence of Republic being seen as a soft touch.

Adam anto

The VAT difference make no difference to the amount I pay out of my pocket.
It's being mentioned a lot because it's a way to justify 6.5% of the difference in price between north and south.

If I buy it in Dublin I spend €2244, in Belfast I spend €1703. Vat doesn't come into it...

I agree with you, it's still a good price for a kitchen but €541 is money I want in my pocket..

Lobsterlady

Have they printed out a catalogue then in Euros?

Adam anto

I was just going by the website prices. I think they have the catalogue out for Dublin in August.

MunsterCycling

toomevara wrote:

God, what is the fascination with Ikea in Ireland? Their stuff is pure tat. Even if it is relatively cheap at point of purc]hase, it won't last.

Probably had a bad MFI experience.......

Cabaal

toomevara wrote: »

God, what is the fascination with Ikea in Ireland? Their stuff is pure tat. Even if it is relatively cheap at point of purchase, it won't last.

Your basing this on what?
Have you ever bought/used ikea items?

enda1

Cabaal wrote: »

Your basing this on what?
Have you ever bought/used ikea items?

I have (I live abroad and had to furnish a whole apartment).

I also never bought the cheapest items for example I bought the most expensive mattress cause I hate soft ones and that was the only choice.

My impression on IKEA...

They are great for some things terrible for others.

Good:
Beds
Mattresses
Kitchen tables
Hinges (for wardrobes etc.)
Shelving
Some kitchen ware such as cheap glasses, cutlery etc.

Bad:
Kitchen presses (not durable enough)
Any item you expect to get a few bangs!

The fact that you buy one thing one day and spend x amount of money and then the next they for the same item and same price the quality has been severly reduced. This happened twice to me.

First Example: Wooden hanges, bought two 10 packs and they were great and cheap - smooth and solid. Bought another 10 pack about 6 months later and they are sh!t! The wood is all rough causing splinters, the connection between the horizontal and diagonals is now just a pin whereas it used to be a cut fit.

Second example: The wooden pull-out drawers for a wardrobe. Initially bought for my lovely wardrobe in OCT '07. Needed to expand wardrobe in MAY '09 so bought two more of same drawers. Same problem. The wood had been changed to a much less dense softer wood with a terrible finish (again the splintering and roughness problems). The connection was less solid and the roller mechanism had been resiously quality reduced - metal parts had been replaced by plastic in the bearings and wheels and was altogether less solid feeling.

So my advice,
1. Buy the complete item when you first arrive because you can not be guaranteed to be able to add on to the set when you need to i future.

2. Buy from a new line instead of old line as the quality is much higher at the start of a line's life (when they wanna suck you in to the concept) than later after aggressive cost cutting measures have seriously harm the quality but you have to buy nyway because it is the only item which will fit/match with your set.

yop

This is not interior design, moving.

Thanks

whosedaddy?

Adam anto wrote: »

I was just going by the website prices. I think they have the catalogue out for Dublin in August.

Instore ads say new catalogue is out in September.

jor el

The VAT difference would make about 150 euro. 540 euro is a lot more.

When you have the use of a van, 540 euro is well worth the drive up the road.

rubadub

faceman wrote: »

Hmmm, Ikea were on the radio today saying how their pricing would be no different than NI.

:eek: a lad in work said that to me the other day. People on similar forums in the UK must be moaning if the prices charged to the VAT paying customers really are the same.

I would like to hear how they worded that comment.

dudara

Threads merged

dudara

Red Sleeping Beauty

dudara wrote: »

I presume what jhegarty is trying to say is that UK and ROI are different countries with different VAT rates, wages, costs of business etc.

Ah this old chestnut. The IKEA staff out in Ballymun must be getting what ? 20 , 30 or 40 Euros an hour is it ?

Looks like Ireland gets screwed again. Well, at least the other Ireland is still an option
Ain't gonna be cheap though on fuel if you're stocking up on a few beds and wardrobes though and driving from NI to Dublin or elsehwere.

Mollywolly

toomevara wrote: »

God, what is the fascination with Ikea in Ireland? Their stuff is pure tat. Even if it is relatively cheap at point of purchase, it won't last.

I know that you've explained your reasons why you think it's tat, but I've got a bookcase and a nest of tables still going strong after 19 years and they've survived two house moves (one from the UK to Ireland).

Perhaps back in those days, they made things to last

DonJose

I find the IKEA pricing slightly confusing. Some items are more expensive and some items are cheaper then stores in Europe. Take the following item for example

ARILD - Three-seat sofa

IKEA Ireland - €949
http://www.ikea.com/ie/en/catalog/products/90121192

IKEA Germany - €1,029
http://www.ikea.com/de/de/catalog/products/50121189

IKEA France - €1,099
http://www.ikea.com/fr/fr/catalog/products/50121189

dudara

Alan Rouge wrote: »

Ah this old chestnut. The IKEA staff out in Ballymun must be getting what ? 20 , 30 or 40 Euros an hour is it ?

I think an article in the Irish Times on Saturday stated that entry-level wage is E9.40. Low as it is, it's still more than the minimum wage in the North.

There are other overheads to be considered.

But as other posters have said, some items are cheaper here, some are the same and some are more expensive. The question to be asked is if the average cost is the same, greater or less?

rubadub

DonJose wrote: »

I find the IKEA pricing slightly confusing. Some items are more expensive and some items are cheaper then stores in Europe.

I would be far more confused if they were all in line. Lidl, amazon, pixmania, argos etc will have prices going up and down in different countries on different items. They charge what the market will bear and would be idiots not to. I still have to hear a reply about the guy claiming IKEA said they would have the same prices here and up north, that makes no sense whatsoever.

Things could be made in different countries, a top rival shop in one country might have an offer on a similar item so they lower it to still shift some, there are 1000's of reasons

dudara wrote: »

The question to be asked is if the average cost is the same, greater or less?

Why does this have to be asked?

dudara

rubadub wrote: »

Why does this have to be asked?

I suppose because it might help us assess whether Ikea Ireland is more expensive than IKEA NI

k123456

For those of you who need to hire a van I priced a few diff van companies, found Enterprise vans the biggest and cheapest at 50pday for a large van. If you live within a reasonable distance of one their depots they collect and drop you home.

Assume approx 260 miles round trip at 40 to gallon approx €50 fpr juice

I think if you hire on a sat, you pay for one day and drop back on Mon

mamablue

Ikea have different prices all over the world. Some items are cheaper in Dublin than say in the US/Germany/France/uk/Australia and some are more expensive. So some items would be more expensive here than in the uk and some would be cheaper.
The uk is a bit cheaper all over at the moment but you have to remember that the main reason for that is the exchange rate. Ikea prices are garanteed for the year so when they price items they have to make sure that if the exchange fluctuates they don't make a loss.

Adam anto

Just did a quick add up on the new difference in price between Dublin and Belfast.

The difference for our kitchen is now 135. It was 541.

Belfast has deffo increased prices probably to come more into line with Dublin.

Ant

mamablue

Adam anto wrote: »

The difference for our kitchen is now 135. It was 541.

What do you base that on?
Do you really think that they change the prices for 19 shops in the uk because there is one new shop in Dublin? Do you think that the world evolves around this tiny island?

Like I said before the price for the uk for 08-09 were proably fixed before the £ went down as much as it did. The good people at ikea are running a business and need to make a profit once they exchange these £ back to € or $ or whatever currency. This year 09-10 they had to fix the price from August till July again and since the £ went down in value they had to up the prices. Ikea has low profit margins (that's why everything is so cheap) and exchange rates will impact that profit (or loss)