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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭derby7


    "One moment he was just a heavy drinker, the next he was losing weight and being sick every morning"
    Some comment to make.......:eek:


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Sounds like a plan.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    For those who like to know what a thread is actually about.....

    What drives a child to drink?

    By the time Madeline Hanshaw's son Gary Reinbach was 13 he was drinking heavily. This week, aged just 22, he died of liver failure. Here, she defends herself – and her son's memory – against those who have been quick to pass judgment


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ponster wrote: »
    For those who like to know what a thread is actually about.....

    i actually didn't till you quoted it. crazy story. i don't smoke weed but i know it doesn't do that to people.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    They are a happy looking bunch.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭Tomebagel


    No way am i reading all that this early in the morning,someone sum it up for me:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    They are a happy looking bunch.

    Off-licence must be closed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Ugh... that poor woman.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,179 ✭✭✭FunkZ


    Down with ALL sort of things!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    FunkZ wrote: »
    Down with ALL sort of things!

    except felching goats


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭latenia


    For those of you who didn't see the pictures of this poor man this week:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article6721483.ece

    In fairness, I've often gone that colour after smoking too much doob.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Food is legal. eat enough of it and you'll die. When will we wake up to the dangers?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭NickNolte


    Very sad story but it's an extreme case of alcoholism. Drink, like almost anything else, can kill you when taken to those extremes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭omahaid


    I'm pretty sure that alcohol is actually the solution to all of lifes problems. That is my understanding anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    omahaid wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure that alcohol is actually the solution to all of lifes problems. That is my understanding anyway

    This is a fact.

    See World health report here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    He started drinking to young. I'd say if he was smoking cannabis like that at that age (he probably was) he'd have some other problem. Children's bodies can't handle stuff in their system while they're growing. Someone should pass a law or something because we all know laws fix things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    read it and weep..http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2009/jul/25/gary-reinbach-alcoholic-madeline-hanshaw

    wake up Ireland - we are gonna be seeing a lot more of this in the coming years. And meanwhile a plant with NO recorded fatalities is illegal:mad: what an insane society we have created.

    This country can hardly control itself with one legal drug what would the logic be in legalising a second?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭NickNolte


    Stev_o wrote: »
    This country can hardly control itself with one legal drug what would the logic be in legalising a second?

    You're right. The country is like the Wild West. People are falling around drunk, murdering each other and dying of liver failure everywhere you look. We've abandoned traditional family values, academia and culture and we've levelled the country to a barren wasteland of hedonism and excess. Run away! Run away!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Stev_o wrote: »
    This country can hardly control itself with one legal drug what would the logic be in legalising a second?
    They're two completely different drugs that have completely different effects on people. It's like comparing chalk and cheese and coming up with bomb. Your expecting cannabis to add to the worst aspects of alcohol where as I'm pretty sure it'll soften them as a cannabis culture kicks in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    And meanwhile a plant with NO recorded fatalities is illegal

    is death the only adverse effect we should be concerned about?


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    sam34 wrote: »
    is death the only adverse effect we should be concerned about?

    Depends on how high up the food chain you are I guess.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    latenia wrote: »
    For those of you who didn't see the pictures of this poor man this week:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article6721483.ece

    In fairness, I've often gone that colour after smoking too much doob.

    So have I. The difference being that a pizza and a breath of fresh air was enough to put the colour back in our cheeks.
    Turning the colour of your own bile whilst your blood fills with urea and ketones is a little more serious.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,601 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    Many things can kill you if consumed in excess.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭Wacker


    I'd read a previous article about this a few days ago, but the tone was totally different. They seemed to be going after the doctors for refusing Gary a liver transplant. This article didn't play that card to the same extent, which is a good thing. I would find it quite hard to justify giving this lad a new liver when they're in such short supply. I'd rather give it to someone less likely to wear it out in a single-digit number of years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    The guy was a heavy drinker by the age of 13!? What kind of irresponsible, ill-fit parent could allow their child to be drinking heavily at such a young age? That's absolutely shocking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    They gave Georgie Best one and it didn't stop him drinking for long...but wait, he was rich and famous.
    I agree though on the issue of giving it to someone like this over giving it to someone with non-alcoholic induced liver failure...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,431 ✭✭✭✭Saibh


    Gary... who reportedly got through three bottles of vodka a day at the height of his addiction
    That is a lot of alcohol to consume in 1 day.

    Link to another ah thread on the same topic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,823 ✭✭✭EvilMonkey


    He started drinking at the age of 11, I'm pretty sure thats illegal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭i71jskz5xu42pb


    Stev_o wrote: »
    This country can hardly control itself with one legal drug what would the logic be in legalising a second?

    Yes, leaving it as it is is the way to go. Let's continue to:
    • Spend tax revenue policing it even though, despite this tax spend, it's pretty much freely available anyway
    • Allow organised crime reap the financial revenue as opposed to the revenue commissioner.

    It's drug legalisation 101, not that complicated.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭Prof.Badass


    Stev_o wrote: »
    This country can hardly control itself with one legal drug what would the logic be in legalising a second?

    Because if that other drug has the exact same effects as alcohol but is nowhere near as toxic, then it will cut down massively on healthcare expenditure and drastically improve the quality of life for users.

    Aswell as making hangovers a thing of the past.

    That good enough for ya?


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