supermarkets ripping off farmers

pigpoor

can anybody out there tell me why the irish farmers are the sacrifical lamb at the alter of greed of the large supermarket groups eg tesco. At the moment my take home pay will not remotely take me home.

Bad weather, no money, no help from government only hardship and bleak outlook:eek::mad:

bogview

tell me what did you do with all the auld handy grants and subsidies......sun holidays:D

spank_inferno

I fully sympathise with you, your getting less for meat and milk than you were in the 80's

The rainey summer means most haven't nearly enough silage for winter.
So thats just another cost on top of the costs of fertalizers & vaccines, harvesting etc.

Most people are going to moan about your subsidies but its either get them or face extinction.

There is no easy answer, but I think your IFA needs to take a bold step.
They see the foor processors and retailers as partners.
However the farmers have been getting hosed for decades.

Just go it alone!
Its not an easy feat but why not recapture the spirit of "co-op"
Create an IFA abbatrors, IFA storage/transport, IFA creameries.... etc
And finaly your friendly local IFA market on the main street where you guys can sell your great product direct to me!

I dont like looking at the sh*t tesco grey coloured meat on their shelves.

So screw em' its not easy and it will take time but it could be done.

gerrycollins

plus all the rules and laws they are under now.

I remember my father buying, only 10 years ago, 2 lambs from my uncle and killing them and freezing the meat.

Cheap and cheerful but now the butcher has to have a licenced abbotoir and a proper set up

My uncle can sell to my father as my father is not registeres as a slaughter house/butcher/farmer etc

its gone stupid out there for farmers

pigpoor

spank_inferno wrote: »

I fully sympathise with you, your getting less for meat and milk than you were in the 80's

The rainey summer means most haven't nearly enough silage for winter.
So thats just another cost on top of the costs of fertalizers & vaccines, harvesting etc.

Most people are going to moan about your subsidies but its either get them or face extinction.

There is no easy answer, but I think your IFA needs to take a bold step.
They see the foor processors and retailers as partners.
However the farmers have been getting hosed for decades.

Just go it alone!
Its not an easy feat but why not recapture the spirit of "co-op"
Create an IFA abbatrors, IFA storage/transport, IFA creameries.... etc
And finaly your friendly local IFA market on the main street where you guys can sell your great product direct to me!

I dont like looking at the sh*t tesco grey coloured meat on their shelves.

So screw em' its not easy and it will take time but it could be done.

Hear Hear to that. the country has become a burocratic bumbling disgrace and seem to be run by a pack of blackguards who have no real time for ordinary people like us who lack the stuffed brown envolepe

pigpoor

reply to gerrycollins

sounds so familiar u nearly couldnt kill a mouse now on farm without having the whole appratus of state being down on top of you like a tonne of bricks

pigpoor

bogview wrote: »

tell me what did you do with all the auld handy grants and subsidies......sun holidays:D

ploughed it back in the business...sorry charity like the farmer who when won the lottery was asked what he would do with it .........STAY FARMING UNTIL IT WAS ALL GONE:eek:

gerrycollins

pigpoor wrote: »

reply to gerrycollins

sounds so familiar u nearly couldnt kill a mouse now on farm without having the whole appratus of state being down on top of you like a tonne of bricks

and some of these new inspections the minister tried to bring in now thats a joke.

Biffo The Bare

pigpoor wrote: »

can anybody out there tell me why the irish farmers are the sacrifical lamb at the alter of greed of the large supermarket groups eg tesco. At the moment my take home pay will not remotely take me home.

Bad weather, no money, no help from government only hardship and bleak outlook:eek::mad:

But farmers are self sufficient in fresh food. Well If I was a farmer, I would be.
When was the last time a farmer bought eggs, bread, milk, meat, jam, butter, sacrifical roast lamb:D etc.
I for one don't have any empathy for a farmers plight. They were raking it in during the Celtic tiger.
Why should farming be treated any different to any other industry?
Innovate or get out. Produce things that people want. Not what you think people want.;)

timbel

spank_inferno wrote: »

Just go it alone!
Its not an easy feat but why not recapture the spirit of "co-op"
Create an IFA abbatrors, IFA storage/transport, IFA creameries.... etc
And finaly your friendly local IFA market on the main street where you guys can sell your great product direct to me!

I dont like looking at the sh*t tesco grey coloured meat on their shelves.

So screw em' its not easy and it will take time but it could be done.

+1 on the COOP idea
I hate the way the supermarkets are screwing people over.
All the BS about price cuts - I have noticed with some of these reduced items, that they were increased in price for a few weeks and then decreased to original price, then called a price cut - cowboys.

Report in todays Indo that farmer gets 22c out of the 1.15 for a litre of milk.
Setup your COOPs, cut out the middlemen, sell for 1 euro, everyones happy.

Blue_Wolf

I would like to see more farmer markets, fresher, more craic, better deals, more margin for you guys, more money in our pocket.

pigpoor

Blue_Wolf wrote: »

I would like to see more farmer markets, fresher, more craic, better deals, more margin for you guys, more money in our pocket.

Hey you talking my languare boy....there a future for you thanks for support:rolleyes:

itsallaboutheL

Biffo The Bare wrote: »

But farmers are self sufficient in fresh food. Well If I was a farmer, I would be.
When was the last time a farmer bought eggs, bread, milk, meat, jam, butter, sacrifical roast lamb:D etc.
I for one don't have any empathy for a farmers plight. They were raking it in during the Celtic tiger.
Why should farming be treated any different to any other industry?
Innovate or get out. Produce things that people want. Not what you think people want.;)

I think you're confusing farmer with hippy.

pigpoor

Biffo The Bare wrote: »

But farmers are self sufficient in fresh food. Well If I was a farmer, I would be.
When was the last time a farmer bought eggs, bread, milk, meat, jam, butter, sacrifical roast lamb:D etc.
I for one don't have any empathy for a farmers plight. They were raking it in during the Celtic tiger.
Why should farming be treated any different to any other industry?
Innovate or get out. Produce things that people want. Not what you think people want.;)

All we raked in was hay and silage boy ,leaving thick welts on our hands.we are the 5 to 9 idiot brigade. No welts on the hands of the 9 to 5 brigade tho :mad: no...:eek:

pigpoor

Blue_Wolf wrote: »

I would like to see more farmer markets, fresher, more craic, better deals, more margin for you guys, more money in our pocket.

Now your talking! Id drink to that if I had the money

itsallaboutheL

pigpoor wrote: »

All we raked in was hay and silage boy ,leaving thick welts on our hands.we are the 5 to 9 idiot brigade. No welts on the hands of the 9 to 5 brigade tho :mad: no...:eek:

To be fair thats pure crap!! The only farmers raking hay and silage by hand during the Boom years were bad farmers

bogview

Think your a bit hard on us ....not just that simple and were not all bad

itsallaboutheL

bogview wrote: »

Think your a bit hard on us ....not just that simple and were not all bad

was that towards me??

bogview

Im a rabbit stew farmer ....but not a bad one