Certified Energy Manager

truerenew

Anyone done this course with Eirdata - Certified Energy manager?

I was thinking of doing it but am I paying a premium for the fact that it's approved by Engineers ireland and the Association of Energy Engineers (€2,150) or is there somwhere else offering a similar course?

Here is the link to the course....

http://www.sqt.ie

lg123

would be interested in this too.

have you taken a look at the is393 training courses, see http://www.sei.ie/Your_Business/Energy_Agreements/IS393trainingcourses/

truerenew

Thanks Ig123, booked myself on theat course in Dublin. Looks good....plus it's free!!

BlackEdelweiss

Hi,
I'm not trying to hijack this thread but does anybody know anything about the IEMA, would it be worth trying to attain some of their qualifications or get accredited with them?
www.iema.net/

BlackEdelweiss

I have one more question. Is there a difference between "Energy management System" and "Environmental Management System"? The two keep coming up in the same searches and I am getting confused now.

Nukem

Dont CIT and places like that run night courses for 12wks for about €1,000 - think thats accredited to FETAC so may prove the better option

lg123

BlackEdelweiss wrote: »

I have one more question. Is there a difference between "Energy management System" and "Environmental Management System"? The two keep coming up in the same searches and I am getting confused now.

not really sure what the differences are but the environmental guys in factories (i.e. pharma) often get landed with the energy management and they deal with the ippc licence which also has energy aspects.

BlackEdelweiss

lg123 wrote: »

not really sure what the differences are but the environmental guys in factories (i.e. pharma) often get landed with the energy management and they deal with the ippc licence which also has energy aspects.

I asked one of the course providers and they said the difference is the standards that they deal with. Energy is IS393 and Environment is IS14001. They are not identical nor are they miles apart, what you know about one can sometimes be used for the other but not always.

Nukem

IS393 is based upon 14001 and is due to be superseeded in the coming months by EN16001 Energy Management Systems.

They have share a similar framework with emphasis in energy or environmental, but do posses similar traits on how to manage the systems.

BlackEdelweiss

Hi,
Does anyone know if this course is recognized in Ireland. It gives an NVQ Level 6 on the British system which I think is equal to a Level 8 in Ireland. I already have a level 7 here, if I did this course could I say I have a Level 8 honors degree.
Has anybody done this course?

pmg58

By NVQ are you sure you don't mean NQF? NVQ only goes up to Level 5, but NQF level 6 is an Honours Bachelor Degree.

BlackEdelweiss

pmg58 wrote: »

By NVQ are you sure you don't mean NQF? NVQ only goes up to Level 5, but NQF level 6 is an Honours Bachelor Degree.

Sorry, I meant NQF, I wasent sure what the difference was. The course seems pretty short to be a full degree, I think I read that it can be done over 9 months.

pmg58

Found a website on that course, doesn't seem to give an NFQ level though. Its described as a Diploma, so my immediate thought was that it was some sort of conversion course to be at that level, i.e. a higher diploma, but the website describes it as having no formal entry requirements...

BlackEdelweiss

This is a link to the course, I meant to put it on the original post.

http://www.nebosh.org.uk/qualifications/diploma/default.asp?cref=74&ct=2

This is a quote from the bottom of the page:

"The NEBOSH National Diploma in Environmental Diploma is accredited at Level 6 within the National Qualification Framework (NQF) by the Office of the Qualifications and Examinations Regulator (Ofqual) in England"

pmg58

Well I'm no expert, I have no experience in the environmental field, but it seems to me that the course is geared towards people working in the UK, i.e. UK legislation etc. I have absolutely no idea of the quality of the course, but I don't think (at a guess more than anything) that its accredited here. Thats not to say that the skills you would potentially develop on the course wouldn't be of advantage to you in your line of employment, but I suppose thats really up to you. Sorry I can't be of more help!

BlackEdelweiss

pmg58 wrote: »

Sorry I can't be of more help!

Not at all, thanks for taking the time and interest in my post to reply. I appreciate all positive replies to my posts.
As it is I dont have a career, I have a Level 7 in building services and would like to try to point myself in the direction of an environmental related career so I am checking out all my options and trying to get as much feedback on each as I can. Whatever decision I make it will be expensive and probably the final chance I get to establish myself in a particular career so it is vital that I make the right choice.

pmg58

I would think your best option would be to go back to college and study for the honours degree. It'd probably take 2 years, maybe 3 (not sure, might depend on your existing qualifications and any work experience) but it would give you an internationally recognised qualification. Obviously you would be looking to civil/environmental engineering type programmes...whether it would be possible for you to take this route on a building services qualification i don't know, but its a relatively similar field. I did a quick google and came up with this: http://www.dit.ie/study/undergraduate/advancedentry/

That said, its a lot of work and it would have to be what you really want!

BlackEdelweiss

Unfortunately due to my personal situation I dont have the option of continuing in full time education, financial and family constraints mean that I am limited to distance learning and short courses.
I know a Level 8 qualification is important but I am wondering if I am trying to get into an environmental career would I be better trying to do some of the IEMA accredited courses as these would be what employers would be looking for in prospective employees. The IEMA run courses in Environmental Management from a foundation certificate up to the IEMA Diploma which is similar to but not accredited as an NQF Level 6 but I think when you had that qualification you would be well recognised within the environmental management field.