Upgrading G36 Battery

CapedCrusader

Hi folks,Upgrading the battery from 8.4V to 9.6V will increase the firing rate of my G36.... right?Will it result in an increase in projectile energy from 1J?Is it ok to install an upgraded battery without any other modifications / upgrades?Cheers folks

Toasty113

It wont increase the power of the gun and it will increase the fps. But using a higher volt battery will increase the stress on your gun and having to repair it will be inevitable in the future. What make is it?

CapedCrusader

Toasty113 wrote: »

It wont increase the power of the gun and it will increase the fps. But using a higher volt battery will increase the stress on your gun and having to repair it will be inevitable in the future. What make is it?

JG...So if the gun was 1J with an 8.4V battery and I change it to a 9.6V battery, can I assume it will then be over 1J?If it increases the FPS, surely then, it increases the power, no?

Vents

Toasty113 wrote: »

It wont increase the power of the gun and it will increase the fps. But using a higher volt battery will increase the stress on your gun and having to repair it will be inevitable in the future. What make is it?

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can you clarify what you mean here.
As increasing FPS would be increasing the mussel velocity of the AEG.(possible over the leagal limit? 1J = 328Fps)
Power increase?

Sorry, I'll bow out. Question was asked just as I was writing mine.

Jimbobak47

You will find a good difference in your rate of fire but no difference in power as far as I know
I put a G&P 9.6v 3300mah battery in my old CA G36k and I have never encountered any problems even with only a few modifications, you will need the G&P stock to fit that battery and it uses a deans connection as well but they give you everything needed to modify a charger for it etc

Toasty113

Whoops, meant rpm, not fps. It'll fire faster but the power will stay the same. I really gotta say more attention to what im writing

gerrowadat

CapedCrusader wrote: »

JG...So if the gun was 1J with an 8.4V battery and I change it to a 9.6V battery, can I assume it will then be over 1J?If it increases the FPS, surely then, it increases the power, no?

I think he meant ROF, not FPS.

CapedCrusader

OK, that makes sense.

Toasty113

Jimbobak47 wrote: »

You will find a good difference in your rate of fire but no difference in power as far as I know
I put a G&P 9.6v 3300mah battery in my old CA G36k and I have never encountered any problems even with only a few modifications, you will need the G&P stock to fit that battery and it uses a deans connection as well but they give you everything needed to modify a charger for it etc

I have that stock myself, its a very nice piece of kit. It allows you to use up to (but not recommended) a 10.8v large type battery. The cheekrest is annoying though and i havn't seen the one without the cheekrest in stock anywhere.

Jimbobak47

It is yeah, I never ventured past the 9.6 myself thought I might be pushing it. They used to make one without the cheekrest but replaced it.

Mauriceg

I fitted a 9.6 battery into my G36. I have a KWA which has upgraded internals so its taken it with no problems. You may have to modify your battery compartment to take it - I had to saw off a retaining clip. From what I've read, the internals on the JG G36 are bog standard - I don't know if they'll take the stress of the increased rate of fire.

NakedDex

The bog standard JG internals are better than those in the KWA.
9.6v in just about any G36 (except CA) is not only safe, but recommended. They're well capable of it and make quite a difference for such a simple change.

Big_G

I use a 7.4v 2200 mah 35c lipo in my tm g36c. Pretty good increase in ROF. Quick charge time too.

Captain Chaos

Jeezzz, I hope you upgraded the gears. Standard TM gears can lose more teeth than an ice hockey player at the best of times on a bog standard 8.4

NakedDex

7.4v Li-Po puts out about the same power as a 9.6v Ni-MH or Ni-Cd. The benefit lies mainly in the physical size and the quicker charge times, but also a better discharge curve. In other words more shots for longer but then a sudden loss of power when it depleted rather than that sound of a slowing/struggling motor you'd usually associate with a dying battery. The amount of rounds fired the battery is good for is about the same but the Li-Po will maintain a steady ROF for longer.
Basically it'll run any rifle that can take 9.6v without modification. Though an upgrade to bearings will help things.

Firekitten

wrong, most gears can take a 10.2 stock im afraid, most likely parts to break, are infact your piston teeth, and the tappet plate.

FPS WILL NOT CHANGE WITH VOLTAGE CHANGE. EVER. the fps is solely related to the spring and air sealing of the system.

Captain Chaos

Firekitten wrote: »

, are infact your piston teeth, .

Thats what I ment, don't know where I was going with my gears.:eek:

CapedCrusader

Hi folks,

Well I got my 1500mAh 9.6V battery and it fits in my JG G36C no problem.

Only problem seems to be on Semi Auto... a second BB dribbles out after you've fired.

One thing I've noticed with my G36C though, sometimes on Semi auto, it seems kind of hesitant (nothing to do with battery happens on 8.4V too). Like there's a small delay before it fires and sometimes, decides not to fire at all (you hear the motor, but no shot). Any one experience this? Anything you can do about it?

Firekitten

and the next shot after a no shot is quick yes?
basically your wiring is somewhat weak, and your response time is low... basically the time taken for the motor to turn from impulse and its power supplied to it is lower, so its turning weaker and slower. Sometimes one can snap a trigger too quickly, and it will begin to cock the rifle, but wont go far enough to release. A manmade issue I assure you.
Jg wiring tends to be good, Id look into replacing the fuse, or motor with a faster one, and if you can, 18/16g wiring... it will zoom zoom long time then

CapedCrusader

Firekitten wrote: »

and the next shot after a no shot is quick yes?

Yes! Exactly!Would a loose connection cause this also? I also had a temporary problem where nothing at all would happen when you pulled the trigger - but that problem disappeared by itself and haven't had it since... sounds like a loose connection somewhere, no?Guess I'll have to open her up and take a look

Firekitten

not loose, you;re snapping the trigger, follow the shot through, perhaps get a better battery that holds charge better, or look at the wiring, it may just be a bit naff. its not 'faulty' just low capacity.

Big_G

I should say that I put new bearings in, and rewired the entire thing with a mosfet and prometheus element cord. Trigger response is savage and active breaking is a nice feature too. You're right about the teeth on the piston but when I took it apart from stock, there was already a significant amount of wear on the teeth. I just ordered a madbull steel tooth polycarb piston, but i'm told I'll need a new sector gear then. oh well... it never ends.