Summerhill

wixfjord

Hi guys, Im viewing a place in Summerhill on Wednesday. I dont know much about the area but I do know about its eh reputation! The place is up near the north circular rd. end. Just wondering could anyone tell me if its as bad as its made out to be? Like is it unsafe to walk through on your own at night? Or are break ins a problem?

Cheers,
wix

waraf

My brother lived in Summerhill (just off Mountjoy Square) for about a year or so a few years back. I never felt safe walking up to his place after dark. Loads of dodgy looking lads hanging about the place so I always felt like I had to walk tall and quite briskly.
Mind you I don't even like walking up O'Connell Street after being out on the beer in town. Too many scumbags looking for trouble

Masada

if he lived near mountjoy square, he didn't live in summerhill, thats a 5-10 minute walk away from summerhill. its not really a bad area at all, there were a few problematic areas a few years ago but its all been clamped down on. the Sean O'Casey Ave area is barricaded like mount joy and has CCTV to match. the old Mountain View flats are gone too. although, even then it wasnt actually that bad.

by the sounds of it I would say its near the junction of nth circular rd/summerhill/portland row etc. the area is decent, and its not often you'll hear of any trouble down there.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Masada, what planet did you live on before coming to earth?..

OP, if your stuck - really badly stuck & I mean in the debts of despair looking for somewhere to live then by all mean's give Summerhill a viewing - from a very fast car!.

Honestly there is not a snowballs chance in hell I'd live on Summerhill.

But hey, different stroke's and all that.

.

wixfjord

Ivan Teeny Stucco wrote: »

Masada, what planet did you live on before coming to earth?..

OP, if your stuck - really badly stuck & I mean in the debts of despair looking for somewhere to live then by all mean's give Summerhill a viewing - from a very fast car!.

Honestly there is not a snowballs chance in hell I'd live on Summerhill.

But hey, different stroke's and all that.

.

For what reasons? Intimidation or what?

waraf

wixfjord wrote: »

For what reasons? Intimidation or what?

Women in pyjamas out on the street smoking fags all day.

I have to agree with Makikomi, I wouldn't live there if you paid me.
After you've looked at the place drop into the Sunshine House for a pint and get a feel for some of your potential new neighbours. :rolleyes:

Oh and on a more serious note, drop into the local coppers. They'll always give you a clear indication what the area is like to live in.

bigdaddyliamo

My family doctor was in rutland street in the middle of summerhill just off sean mcdermott street. In the 25+ years I've attended there I've never had a whiff of bother.

Also, My great aunt lived in Bella street all her life and no issues. Was a large heroin problem in the 80's and 90's but has largely calmed down.

Good Luck!

Wishbone Ash

It certainly has changed for the better compared to the 1980s. It used to feel a bit intimidating walking through the area. In saying that, it wouldn't be a place I'd choose in a hurry to live in.

humberklog

Sunset House isn't the worst of'm. That new pub has taken a few of the shiftier lads away from it.

I'd give it skip too though and like a lot of the posters here I'd be fairly generous in dishing out the benefit of the doubt when it comes to areas. Still a dark little spot by times, as WBA says it has cleaned up a lot for sure but it's a case of 'a lot done, a lot more to do'.

Sunset House isn't too bad though.

Quint

As said above, I wouldn't live there by choice. Used to go to school in O'Connells in the 90's, walked down buckingham every day. There was always trouble. From kids throwing stuff, muggings to just a random punch punch in the face. Almost every day there was an incident. Not involving me all the time, but someone on the bus.
I've been there a few times since, once going to an Ireland game in Croker about 2 months ago. Little scumbags were throwing apples at people. Not the most serious crime, but there's just constantly kids harassing you it gets to be a serious pain in the arse.

Masada

waraf wrote: »

Women in pyjamas out on the street smoking fags all day.

I have to agree with Makikomi, I wouldn't live there if you paid me.
After you've looked at the place drop into the Sunshine House for a pint and get a feel for some of your potential new neighbours. :rolleyes:

Oh and on a more serious note, drop into the local coppers. They'll always give you a clear indication what the area is like to live in.

that'll be the Sunset house your talking about, and by the sounds of things, ya must not have been in their either,

The sunset is the most placid pub in the north inner city, if ya went looking for trouble the castle or the blind ref would be places that wouldnt dissapoint, but the sunset.. lol.

as far a i know the castle is gone now too, so that leaves Morleys and the Sunset, both granda pubs.

having lived in the area for 20 odd years I cant see why someone would say its particualrly bad, it had its seasons of trouble a few years ago, but there's hardly ever trouble these days. Seville place, oriel street etc are the problematic parts of town in recent times. there's more coppers in town than their are knackers these days.

R.D. aka MR.D

I used to live near that area about 4 years ago. it was lovely during the day, not a bother but i wouldn't set foot there after dark.

Kids throwing stones etc at people/buses whatever they could aim at.

Teenagers walking around trying to intimidate people that obviously were out of place.

Just a really menacing atmosphere.

(i'm female, incase that makes a difference)

arybvtcw0eolkf

wixfjord wrote: »

For what reasons? Intimidation or what?

I wouldn't be intimidated too easily, in fact I was born on Summerhill & still have family living in Matt Talbot Court.

My wife is a 'townie', she's from Sheriff St and all her family live there & EastWall. I've also lived in both area's before buying where I've settled, so I know these communities well.

Its very hard to move into one of these communties and feel your accepted, you'll never be, but that'll only concern you if your buying into the area.

As an outsider your going to stick out like a sore thumb in Summerhill, unless like your African & East European neighbours you ghetto'ise yourself with your own kind - there's a reason why 'birds of a feather shall flock together'!.

OP, with property and rental prices as competitive as they are these days there are far nicer & safer area's than Summerhill to choose from.

Oh, The Castle - its been closed.

.

cosmic

wixfjord wrote: »

Hi guys, Im viewing a place in Summerhill on Wednesday

I wouldn't bother if I were you. Maybe move a bit further out like Drumcondra or Whitehall.

BraziliaNZ

i cycle through it twice a day. Never felt endangered but why you'd want to live in an area where pyjamas are the uniform of the women and tracksuits and baseball caps for the men is beyond me! Plus any hint of sunshine and every youngfella has their top off and everyone in the neighbourhood is drinking cans sitting on steps/walls etc. Also the place is filthy with litter, i've seen residents just walk out and dump bags of rubbish across the road because they probably refuse to buy bin tags. Disgusting looking area full of disgusting looking people if you ask me.

Degsy

Its a shiithole,full of scumbags..avoid it.

Rowley Birkin QC

Lived in Marino for 4 years and the walk home from college through Summerhill was always the quickest part of my journey.

Women in pyjamas everywhere smoking fags and groups of young fellas that always seemed to have school holidays at the strangest times. Add to that teh few shootings that took place there in the last four years and you start to get the picture.

Try Marino if you need to be in the locality, it's geographically close but a million miles away in other ways.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Degsy wrote: »

Its a shiithole,full of scumbags..avoid it.

/Enter Degsy - firing from the hip as usual

.

arybvtcw0eolkf

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

. Disgusting looking area full of disgusting looking people if you ask me.

Sorry for not using multi-quotes - but that beats Degsy!.

And really made me laugh.

.

BraziliaNZ

Ivan Teeny Stucco wrote: »

Sorry for not using multi-quotes - but that beats Degsy!.

And really made me laugh.

.

Well I'm just being brutally honest, I mean why would you want to live there unless the corpo made you live there?!

Degsy

Its not just the people tbh,there's something very run-down and depressing about the place too..there's no green spaces apart from the canal banks(scissor-sisters anyone) and a lot of the buildings seem to be decaying and ramshackle.
The area itself is dirty and grey and this seems to be reflected in a lot of the types you see hanging around.
Walking fom town to summerhill at night is truly not to be reccomended and being from outside the area is more likely to make you a target than a guest...you CAN move to a working-class area and be accepted if you're not from there but i dont think summerhill is one of those places.

NewFrockTuesday

I agree fully. I moved into my area 5 years ago odd - Doneycarney and my road is basically the one up one down houses full of really old people who moved in years and years ago. Alot of them would be in their late 70s - mid 80s. I never really spoke of any of them for the first few years as I wasnt there alot, but now Im familar with all their faces and they always wave and and tell me what happens - eg we have a neighbor who has a brother a junkie and he keeps trying to break into peoples house but keep getting caught cos hes off his head. I never even knew that it had been going on but they thought seeing as I live alone I should know about it.

Im not into the whole neighbour dropping in for coffee scene, but when a gang of 80 year old invite you into town with them for a coffee, it turns out to be great fun and they have so many stories its a great insight into the area.

Me likey, me staying

PS - wouldnt touch Summerhill unless I was homeless. I work with SVP at night and there and Thomas Street areas are the very worst to be dealing with. I got beaten to a pulp one night even thought they knew I was VP and they knew I had no money on me. Baxtards. However bad the area is, they make it ten times worse....not just the junkies, but the pure scum mentality that seems to thrive there.

donaghs

North Circular Rd isn't Summerhill, but its close enough. Summerhill is a kip, its part of the same block of housing as Sean McDermott St. Only worth going through if you are driving.

My advise would be to look elsewhere because of the potential problems you could encounter there. Quality of life basically.

Degsy

donaghs wrote: »

North Circular Rd isn't Summerhill, but its close enough. Summerhill is a kip, its part of the same block of housing as Sean McDermott St. Only worth going through if you are driving.

My advise would be to look elsewhere because of the potential problems you could encounter there. Quality of life basically.

Be advised that Sean McDermot st is FAR worse than summerhillproper,it really doesnt have anything whatsovere going for it and it is an extremely dangerous area.

humberklog

Deepsense you should pop into The Ramble Inn. A friendlier pub you won't get. They dish out sambos and sausages on a Friday afternoon too and during the week in the bar the have a big rousing traditional session.



Where Ballybough and Summerhill and down Rutland Street and down onto Sean Mac has always given me the willies and I'm and north inner(ish) chappy too. Odd too that I wouldn't have a bother mincing around Seville Place. I wouldn't live there but I'm never bothered when I'm down that way.
But Summerhill...it's just too feckin' randomly nutty.
Last week I saw a junkie with his cecks down and leaning and against the wall having a dump. It was 3.30 PM. This could happen in a lot of places but didn't look too out of place in Summerhill.

Mind you one of Dublin's best pubs is in the area. Gill's, although for the last few years it only opens when there are events on in Croker. But if even not attending Croker it's always good to pop the head head. Great pub run by a top family.

tricky D

+1 re Gills, smashing place. And on the junkies, there's the not uncommon sight of them out of it, leaning down to pick up the cigarette which blew away about 30 mins previously.

Have lived around Mountjoy Sq for 10 years with barely any incident, but I wouldn't bother with Summerhill especially if you're anything less than 100% on the streetwise scale.

DublinBhoyJoe

These fcuking threads make me laugh, for years and years no one wanted to live in the city centre.

wixfjord

DublinBhoyJoe wrote: »

These fcuking threads make me laugh, for years and years no one wanted to live in the city centre.

Yeah hilarious :rolleyes:

That post doesnt even warrant a response.


I found a nicer place in smithfield and am moving in there soon. Thanks for the replies.

Nightwish

I lived up at the Ballybough end one year, and where I never felt intimidated (I had just moved into town from Finglas West!), I certainly did not like the area at all. I found it very depressing and it was quite rough. Bus drivers getting awful abuse, the buses getting stuff thrown at them, small kids wandering around at ridiculous hours of the night etc etc. It was generally just horrible. My house was pretty crappy looking, so I reckon that any of the local hoodlums knew that there wouldnt be anything worth nicking in the place, so we were left alone.

humberklog

wixfjord wrote: »

I found a nicer place in smithfield and am moving in there soon. Thanks for the replies.

Good choice Wixfjord. Good pubs, take aways and general amenities along Stoneybatter and Smithfield in general.

lightening

DublinBhoyJoe wrote: »

These fcuking threads make me laugh, for years and years no one wanted to live in the city centre.

Speak for yourself!

Best of luck in Smithfield wixfjord, good choice.

irlirishkev

Summerhill.. urgh. Used to walk through it n the way to work in the mornings/evenings, and on the way back from the gym later in the evenings again.

Proper stinky hole of an area. I lived close by for a long time. As previously posted, it's the random stuff.. stones being thrown by little scumbag kids, junkies taking a dump on the road, litter all over the place, horrible buildings etc..

I'm no shrinking violet by any means when it comes to living in the city, but Summerhill has always had this uneasy feel about it. As if something was always just about to kick off.. and quite often it does.. Avoid.

Best of luck in Smithfield. Far nicer area.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Since the OP has found accommodation in Smithfield I'll close this now, no point in over doing in!.

Thanks everyone.

.

arybvtcw0eolkf

In lighht of THIS THREAD we're....



On Summerhill again... But read that thread at your peril, there are a couple of right fools in it - take a walk on the darko side and I'll ban you.

.

spurious

Since we're out of AH territory, I'll say it again.
It is because some people will react to this by saying 'you shouldn't have had your phone out there', 'what do you expect' blah blah, that parts of this city are the way they are. IMO, acceptance (and expectation) of scummer behaviour is what lets it keep happening.

That woman had every right to walk unbothered to any concert, along any road in this city, with or without kids. The fact that so many people seem to think it's 'expected' that some loser assault her and steal her property in any particular area is disgusting and in my book is on exactly the same continuum as the thinking of the loser who decided he had the right to steal from her.

I have worked in that area for 25 years, I have taught a large percentage of the young adults in it, don't give me any sob stories about nothing to do. There are many fine people from that area, but they and we, the wider community let these scummers away with it.

Just try getting one charged, even if you catch him red-handed, it will be another chance after last chance. No consequences to actions is what causes some people to behave like that and until we start making sure there are consequences, nothing will change, especially if some people in the supposedly law-abiding community have decided there is an acceptable and expected level of scummer behaviour.

Masada

What happened to that woman was terrible and it'll probably have a lasting effect on her sense of security when out alone, a real shame especially having her children see that.

Sadly its all to common in the Croke park area on any event from the football to the concerts, most of the coppers in the area are drafted in from all over the place and don't even know the area. this often means the ones doing the mugging are more confident in what they are doing because the copper doesn't know the lay of the land and often isn't allowed to leave his/her post.
I'm also shocked that of the 80 thousand people who went to that gig, not one bloke seems to have stepped in and helped the woman.

I really don't see how it has anything to do with this thread though since it has its own thread over in AH, your enlightening people to a contraversial thread aswell as threatening a banning? why not leave this locked since its run its course? your only givine people rope and expecting them not to hang themselves.

Collie D

Masada wrote: »

I'm also shocked that of the 80 thousand people who went to that gig, not one bloke seems to have stepped in and helped the woman.

Don't be. You'd be surprised how many people are willing to turn a blind eye but will go home and say what a disgrace it was.Some of them are probably ranting on that other thread.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Masada wrote: »

I really don't see how it has anything to do with this thread though since it has its own thread over in AH, your enlightening people to a contraversial thread aswell as threatening a banning? why not leave this locked since its run its course? your only givine people rope and expecting them not to hang themselves.

First off, your around long enough to know that if you have an issue with a Moderator's decision you can take it to a PM with the Mod or take it over to the 'HelpDesk'.

Second, people in Dublin actually read this forum - :eek:

Personally the Summerhill/Ballybough area wouldn't bother me, however leaving the U2 gig last night and two of the girls in our company took out their photos to use, immediately I remembered the AH thread and warned the girls to move in closer to the group.

Maybe people browsing this forum in future might just avoid a similar bad experience as that poor girl in the AH thread when walking through this area.

Brilliant gig btw.

.

currythis

I used to work on Amiens Street(nextdoor to the methadone clinic) and on Buckingham Street and while it's definitely an area in which you have to keep your wits about you its not as bad an area as its made out to be.

I remember we got held up one day by a lad with a can of petrol and a lighter one evening,he took a computer and cash from the till,we called the garda but he was long gone.

Then we were paid a visit by a friend of a well known local gangster who asked us what happened and what the guy who robbed us looked like,well two hours later he arrived back with the money and the computer and told us that we wouldn't have any more probems,and we didn't!

I always enjoyed working around the area and always thought that the majority of the locals were very friendly and had a great sense of humour too.

red_river

il be renting a room close to mountjoy square, whats that area like??

waraf

red_river wrote: »

il be renting a room close to mountjoy square, whats that area like??

It's the Monaco of the Northside :D

irlirishkev

Can you be a bit more specific?

I lived on Hill Street, near Mountjoy Square for years, and never had any problems. Loved it and hated to leave it.

But then you hear of other people having horrible experiences, so I think a lot of it depends on the individual. Some people seem to find trouble no matter where they live..

red_river

its on middle gardiner's st which is beside hill st.

irlirishkev

red_river wrote: »

its on middle gardiner's st which is beside hill st.

You'll be grand. All the asian restaurants, supermarkets and bars, which open late, generally give that end of the city a nice buzz.
You do see some scummers knocking about, but they tend to leave you alone if you leave them alone (unless you're really unlucky).
For me, the pros far outweigh the cons up there.

Make sure and pop into The Welcome Inn on Parnell Street.. One of the coolest pubs in the city IMO...

spurious

+1 for the Welcome - a great spot.

CSC

Is the Castle pub closed now? I was there with friends ages ago and thought it was a decent spot.