F Class Calibre

bunny shooter

A friend of mine want to shoot F Class and wants to know which would be the better calibre 6mm BR or 6.5 x 284

It wasn't me!

6.5-284 is going to buck wind better downrange. 6mmBR is going to kick less and make shooting more accurate. I've shot both and while it kicks a lot more than the 6mmBR, the 6.5-284 isn't going to hurt anyone either. I'd say the 6.5-284 makes more sense, but it's rough on barrels, where 6mmBR is not. All judgement calls he'll have to make. Good choices both though.

jwshooter

bunny shooter wrote: »

A friend of mine want to shoot F Class and wants to know which would be the better calibre 6mm BR or 6.5 x 284

6.5x284 is a favourite 7mm s are also very popular .iv shot 6.5x284 built on a neskia bay action by steve kershaw he would be a good man to talk to.

our problem is not custom guns but custom ammo . thats where the shoots are not fair if you are prepared to smuggle in loading gear and components you have a advantage over the law abiding shooter

Sparks

Actually, you're not smuggling in the equipment or the bullets or the brass jw.
Primers and powder, that's something else - though there are apparently a few who've obtained licences for that, so they're not breaking any laws either.
(And there are no laws against reloading itself).

jwshooter

Sparks wrote: »

Actually, you're not smuggling in the equipment or the bullets or the brass jw.
Primers and powder, that's something else - though there are apparently a few who've obtained licences for that, so they're not breaking any laws either.
(And there are no laws against reloading itself).

actually they are .
i said loading gear and "components " ie powder primers heads .


apparently ? ,are you talking about the article 7 that was printed by cal ward in the digest that belonged to a friend of mine ward got his grubby little hands on a copy of it through a dealer in the north .no components were imported as the doj would not give a importation licence and they have not granted any apparently .

rowa

surely if there are no laws against something, e.g. reloading ,then it is not illegal ? if it were illegal then there would be a specific law against it , or is it a case of "garda policy" or "doj policy" similar to the handgun ban for all those years ? there were no actual laws banning pistols, apart from a temporary 2 week ban , but we're just not going to give you a licence anyway .

this is the only "free" country in the world that this type of buffoonery would be accepted by the law-abiding public .

surely when the guy in donegal had his case thrown out of court for reloading rifle ammo ,then that should have been an end to it .

Sparks

It's not illegal to reload rowa, nor to have the equipment to do it, nor to have most of the components.
However, you need an explosives licence for the primers and the propellant; without it, you're breaking the law. That's why reloading (and black powder shooting) is waiting on the rewrite of the explosives act instead of on a new firearms act.

jw, no, I'm not talking about cal. I generally don't weigh anything he says very heavily, as that tends to save time.

foxshooter243

bunny shooter wrote: »

A friend of mine want to shoot F Class and wants to know which would be the better calibre 6mm BR or 6.5 x 284

6mm Dasher-an improved 6mm br and good barrel life compared to the 6.5 by 284:)

demonloop

Sparks wrote: »

I'm not talking about cal. I generally don't weigh anything he says very heavily, as that tends to save time.

rowa

Sparks wrote: »

It's not illegal to reload rowa, nor to have the equipment to do it, nor to have most of the components.
However, you need an explosives licence for the primers and the propellant; without it, you're breaking the law. That's why reloading (and black powder shooting) is waiting on the rewrite of the explosives act instead of on a new firearms act.

jw, no, I'm not talking about cal. I generally don't weigh anything he says very heavily, as that tends to save time.

i'd love to get into black powder shooting , anyone know the guidelines on the gun we are going to be allowed ?

Sparks

Noone has even a ghost of an idea outside of the DoJ at the moment rowa, and even there I think it's far from concrete - most of the effort of late hasn't been going into the Explosives Act rewrite but the Misc.Provisions Bill and the Range and Clubs SIs.

rrpc

rowa wrote: »

i'd love to get into black powder shooting , anyone know the guidelines on the gun we are going to be allowed ?

Most black powder firearms are smooth bore and as such are licensed as shotguns.

The only issue (as Sparks said) is getting the propellant.