.175 ???

moose112

Hey Guys

I have never owned a rifle always been some what of a shotgun snob:) I was out lately with a lad who had a .175 caliber rifle (think that is right) after rabbits. I was well impressed with the rifle and the range it was taking them out at, I am just about convinced now to make the jump and go for a rifle looking for a rifle that will do both rabbits and foxs.
The lad that owned the rifle has never went after foxs and couldnt say for sure if it would be up to the job (but imagined it wold be)

So question is do ye think the .175 is a rifle for both foxs and rabbits also remembering i don't want the rabbit destroyed, want something for the pot:D

Cheers guys

Killguru

I never heard of .175, Id say this is the one your talking about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.17_HMR

i suppose within 80yds for a fox but shot placment is important. Of course im open to correction ive never used one. I know there supposed to be accurate anyway. Look at this thread too.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055327179

thedragon

moose112 wrote: »

Hey Guys

I have never owned a rifle always been some what of a shotgun snob:) I was out lately with a lad who had a .175 caliber rifle (think that is right) after rabbits. I was well impressed with the rifle and the range it was taking them out at, I am just about convinced now to make the jump and go for a rifle looking for a rifle that will do both rabbits and foxs.
The lad that owned the rifle has never went after foxs and couldnt say for sure if it would be up to the job (but imagined it wold be)

So question is do ye think the .175 is a rifle for both foxs and rabbits also remembering i don't want the rabbit destroyed, want something for the pot:D

Cheers guys

I think its a Honda 175 your talking about,my father had one years ago.

moose112

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.17_HMR

Yeah thats the one thanks, remember the guy even saying now, if he was going after foxs he would go for 20grms bullet.

Anyone have that size rifle?

What do they think?

.22 never impressed me but this one really has

foxshooter243

moose112 wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.17_HMR

Yeah thats the one thanks, remember the guy even saying now, if he was going after foxs he would go for 20grms bullet.

Anyone have that size rifle?

What do they think?

.22 never impressed me but this one really has

excellent bunny rifle, but its not a fox rifle-thats not my opinion by the way , thats the opinion of the Hornady designers and the guys who carried out the terminal ballistics tests.

moose112

foxshooter243 wrote: »

excellent bunny rifle, but its not a fox rifle-thats not my opinion by the way , thats the opinion of the Hornady designers and the guys who carried out the terminal ballistics tests.

Is there a rifle on the market that ye can recommend for both??

rob308

22 hornet works well on foxes and rabbits. Ammo is reasonable too

moose112

As i said before total rifle novice

Friend told me to stay away from the hornet, it will destroy a bunny, each round works out at around 1.10 cents and can't use a suppressor on them?

please help

foxshooter243

moose112 wrote: »

As i said before total rifle novice

Friend told me to stay away from the hornet, it will destroy a bunny, each round works out at around 1.10 cents and can't use a suppressor on them?

please help

I used a hornet for ten years on bunnies and fox, headshoot the bunnies and youll ruin no meat;)

riflehunter77

Moose the 17 Hmr is a great round for rabbits and the odd fox within distance of 80 yards with correct shot placement. I have taken plenty of rabbits at 160 yrds plus with the 17 it is a really flat shooter it does not arc like the .22lr. But wind can be a factor at distance because the round is light only 17 & 20 grain but with practice it wont be a major factor. Have a look at my other post (9) all the shooting took place in under 10 minutes this time last year.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055625943

moose112

Cheers riflehunter

I might give a few of the lads in the club to see what type of rifles they have and sort out a bit of shooting with them.
Just to see for myself but if the hornet round works out at €1.10 i think that will be left on the shelf.

crowsnightmare

riflehunter77 wrote: »

Moose the 17 Hmr is a great round for rabbits and the odd fox within distance of 80 yards with correct shot placement. I have taken plenty of rabbits at 160 yrds plus with the 17 it is a really flat shooter it does not arc like the .22lr. But wind can be a factor at distance because the round is light only 17 & 20 grain but with practice it wont be a major factor. .

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055625943

I will second that! There is nothing better for Bunnies & the fox is within 80yds you will have great fun.

riflehunter77

moose112 wrote: »

Cheers riflehunter

I might give a few of the lads in the club to see what type of rifles they have and sort out a bit of shooting with them.
Just to see for myself but if the hornet round works out at €1.10 i think that will be left on the shelf.

If you do go for the 17 Hmr moose this is what you will be doing regulary :D A clip from a guy in oz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCoRnRw8l64

moose112

Some nice shooting:D

Took a stroll down to my local dealer this evening to see what he had in stock

cz 452 m americian
3x9x40 hawke scope
mounts
metal silencer can't remember make told me he does not stock plastic ones reckons they give trouble

all in for €770 seems ok to me what ye think

seen this one

http://www.shoot.ie/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=31

Whats the difference??

sorry if stupid question

bunny shooter

sounds a bit dear, even it it is the Varmint CZ :eek:

http://www.shoot.ie/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_25&products_id=155

Rifle = €487

Scope is worth approx €50, mounts €20, moderator €90 (depending on make)

Total = €647

Mellor

bunny shooter wrote: »

sounds a bit dear, even it it is the Varmint CZ :eek:

http://www.shoot.ie/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_25&products_id=155

Rifle = €487

Scope is worth approx €50, mounts €20, moderator €90 (depending on make)

Total = €647

The rifle in the link is €502.
but that said, it would need to be a good mod to justify the €770

moose112

moose112 wrote: »

Some nice shooting:D

Took a stroll down to my local dealer this evening to see what he had in stock

cz 452 m americian
3x9x40 hawke scope
mounts
metal silencer can't remember make told me he does not stock plastic ones reckons they give trouble

all in for €770 seems ok to me what ye think

seen this one

http://www.shoot.ie/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=31

Whats the difference??

sorry if stupid question

Sorry should have made myself clearer the price of €770 was from my local dealer.
The link above was a rifle i came across on the net.

What is the main difference between the two rifles.

cz 452 m americian & cz 452 - 2e zkm silhoutte

riflehunter77

No major difference just different shape stocks and weight. Two fine looking rifles.. You can compare both here

http://cz-usa.com/products/by-category/rimfire-rifles/

moose112

Was just checking out a sako .17 with a Niko sterling nighteater scope.

Very impressed

Think i have a winner:D

To many options

what ye think?

riflehunter77

You wont go wrong with a sako, great quality firearms one of the top brands of firearms out there.

moose112

so here is the question sako or cz

sako is a lot more expensive than the cz but still within my budget(just)

My head is telling me cz but the heart is sako then again who wants a gun that you just aint really that convinced about.

riflehunter77

moose112 wrote: »

so here is the question sako or cz

sako is a lot more expensive than the cz but still within my budget(just)

My head is telling me cz but the heart is sako then again who wants a gun that you just aint really that convinced about.

The ultimate dilemma which rifle...You wont go wrong with a cz just get the trigger changed will only cost a few euro its a diy job if need be. I had a cz .22 lr for years and could not fault it at all. Alot of the lads here have cz`s and speak very highly of them.. The american stock looks great on the cz.

As you say the sako is that bit more expensive but if the rimfires are any way as good as there centerfire rifles you will have no problems at all. Have not used the rimfire range.

This has probably made you even more confused Pop into your local firearms dealer and have a look at the two of them together and id pick the one that feels the best for you. Nothing like getting a good feel of them. All the best let us know how you get on RH77

moose112

Cheers RH77

thanks for all your help I will post up a few pics of the one i finally go for

foxshooter243

moose112 wrote: »

so here is the question sako or cz

sako is a lot more expensive than the cz but still within my budget(just)

My head is telling me cz but the heart is sako then again who wants a gun that you just aint really that convinced about.

buy the sako-theres no comparison in the finish

Duck's hoop

I got the CZ Sillouhette in 16'' and it's all the rifle I expect it to be. Damn accurate, although it is still possible, under certain extreme circumstances, to miss what you are intending to shoot. This is almost always due to pilot error however.

Keep it for days with little or no wind and you can plug various things at a long way, for a rimfire. I have found it to be fairly negatively affected by even moderate cross winds.

Whatever you get you'll have a blast. Does make a fair mess of bugs though, so hit him in the side of the head if wanting to eat him.

sfakiaman

An option you could consider is getting the CZ and putting the rest of the budget into a better scope. And remember to try a variety of makes of ammo to find the one your rifle likes best.

moose112

sfakiaman wrote: »

An option you could consider is getting the CZ and putting the rest of the budget into a better scope. And remember to try a variety of makes of ammo to find the one your rifle likes best.

I will really just be using the rifle for the fields wont be target shooting, was told the scope on it was more than enough.

milkerman

I have a Sako in .17HMR.
My shootin buddy has a CZ.
Both are good guns... but I'm glad I lied to the wife and bought the more expensive gun - and I can't see myself changing it.

lordarpad

Thought I'd post mu object of desire in .17 HMR: http://www.savagearms.com/93r17BTVS_LH.htm