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pub/club door policies

  • 18-07-2009 2:58pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭


    Hi

    Can anyone tell me what is the legal standing with regards to refusing entry to a pub/club due to someone wearing a pair of runners, jeans or a hoody. Now i am not talking about reebok classics of a shiny white addidas hoody but something a bit more casual. I see scumbags getting into some places with a pair of shoes they bought in pennies for a tenner where i get refused because i have a pair of Vans on my feet and/or a hoody on.

    Can someone be turned away for wearing these?
    Is it not discrimination?
    Is it legal? If it is not then what can i say the next time i am stopped at the door.

    cheers


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 691 ✭✭✭chalkitdown


    Try telling them you are a member of the traveling community, that should do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭GalwayKiefer


    Licenced premises are entitled to have their own dress code but it needs to be displayed at the front door visible to the public.

    You can't be refused entry, or discriminated against in general, on these 9 grounds:
    Gender.
    Marital status.
    Family status.
    Sexual orientation.
    Religion.
    Age.
    Disability.
    Race.
    Membership of the Traveller community.

    Next time you're told no hoodie ask to see the house rules if you want to annoy the doorstaff but realistically you'll get nowhere as its not them calling the shots re:dresscode. Different ball game if the person ahead of you gets let in wearing a hoodie and runners and you get stopped for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    GalKiefer wrote: »
    Licenced premises are entitled to have their own dress code but it needs to be displayed at the front door visible to the public..

    So what happens if they do not have this dresscode on display at the entrance?
    Can i ask to be admitted as the are breaking the law(i assume that is a law??)

    Dont want to be an arse to the doormen as they have a tough enough time as it is but i hate not being aloud into somewhere because i have runners on. At least i can take hoody of!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 130 ✭✭catch88


    frag420 wrote: »
    So what happens if they do not have this dresscode on display at the entrance?
    Can i ask to be admitted as the are breaking the law(i assume that is a law??)

    Dont want to be an arse to the doormen as they have a tough enough time as it is but i hate not being aloud into somewhere because i have runners on. At least i can take hoody of!!

    All they need is a sign that says 'we reserve the right to admission.'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 207 ✭✭no scope


    This has happened to me and a few of my mates

    We all dress in slacks and shirts and still get refused its stupid

    " Sorry mate not tonight " they all say thats what did i do wrong like?

    Then when girls come up to them the push their boobs up and get in no bother

    Bunch of Arseholes

    sorry for the language mods


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    catch88 wrote: »
    All they need is a sign that says 'we reserve the right to admission.'

    its funny bit the bouncers have no problem tellin me its because im wearng runners.

    So can i challenge there decission if there is no sign outside??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭Jev/N


    Most posters for nights/pubs/clubs will have ROAR at the bottom = right of admission reserved


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    this particular pub only reopened a few months ago. had a strict door policy at the start but i still got in the first weekend as i knew the designer. They then stopped the policy for about a month which was great as i could rock in there and have a good night. A month later they went bck to the original policy. So annoying.

    oh well........their loss


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Jo King


    frag420 wrote: »
    its funny bit the bouncers have no problem tellin me its because im wearng runners.

    So can i challenge there decission if there is no sign outside??

    No. The sign is meaningless. It is private property. Admission is automatically at the discretion of the occupier. Refusal of admission can only be challenged on equality grounds.
    There are three things you can do.
    1. Complain to the equality authority.
    2. Object to the renewal of the liquor Licence in the District Court.
    3. Stop going around looking like a knacker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    Jo King wrote: »
    .
    3. Stop going around looking like a knacker.

    I take great offence to that. Il have you know i go out of my way to make myself look good and my caravan is kept in impeccable order. I even have a seperate van for my trendy clothes.

    Now excuse me as i paint the wheels on my house.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Jev/N wrote: »
    Most posters for nights/pubs/clubs will have ROAR at the bottom = right of admission reserved
    Does this work with a "public" house?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭Jev/N


    Victor wrote: »
    Does this work with a "public" house?

    I'm not sure to be honest!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    Victor wrote: »
    Does this work with a "public" house?
    I would assume so as you could not bar anyone from the premises otherwise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Trojan911


    Have a look through here. You can contact the PSA and speak in person if you have a complaint to make or a query.

    Also note on the Home page that all door & retail security will have to display ID badges from the 1st Sept while on duty.

    Public Houses are the same as they come under "lisenced premises"


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