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Shops that sell "Not for Individual resale" soft drinks

  • 18-07-2009 10:35am
    #1
    Site Banned Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭


    I've been noticing this a lot lately, and not in corner shops.

    Super Valu and Dunnes are selling Coke and Lucozade claerly marked "not for individual resale"

    No big deal maybe, but it's insulting to the customers offering us cans with that label on it, clearly from discounted multipacks but selling to us at standard single prices.

    Just needed to get that off my chest, thanks!


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    Why do you care if it comes from a multi-pack? Does the drink taste any different? If the shop can buy a product in cheaper and sell at the same price thereby reducing costs and maximising profits they'd be stupid not to. Wouldnt they?

    The shop sell the product at a price, if you agree you buy. If you think its too epensive you go somewhere else.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭jayteecork


    amcalester wrote: »
    Why do you care if it comes from a multi-pack? Does the drink taste any different? If the shop can buy a product in cheaper and sell at the same price thereby reducing costs and maximising profits they'd be stupid not to. Wouldnt they?

    The shop sell the product at a price, if you agree you buy. If you think its too epensive you go somewhere else.

    I care for a lot of reasons.

    One, When I'm paying a euro or so FOR A SINGLE CAN I'd prefer that there's not a huge glaring "not for individual resale" on it. Like I'm too mean to pay for a single can and get one from the mulitpack in the garage before I leave the house.
    Two, yes it does taste somehow different - taste is often psychological as well as physiological.
    Three, it's downright insulting to the consumers charging us the same euro when it's obvious the mark up is hugely different like we're some sort of clowns that won't notice.

    And lastly, this a consumer issues forum, why on earth are you saying "If the shop can buy a product in cheaper and sell at the same price thereby reducing costs and maximising profits they'd be stupid not to. Wouldnt they?"

    You're just justifying supermarkets ripping off the public.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭waraf


    Yeah it's not Super Valu or Dunnes who make that decision. The manufacturer (e.g. Coke) make them like that then sell them at a discount to the retailer who then passes that discount on to you. Coke print "not for individual resale" on the packaging to ensure that they items are not separated by the retailer and therefore the discount is passed on to the customer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    Name and shame!


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭jayteecork


    waraf wrote: »
    Coke print "not for individual resale" on the packaging to ensure that they items are not separated by the retailer .

    My point entirely is that this isn't working.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭jayteecork


    Saruman wrote: »
    Name and shame!

    Might as well.
    Super Valu Glanmire.
    And Dunnes Stores Douglas Court.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    Perhaps get on to the Coca cola bottlers and let them know. Let them sort it out as it is they that are losing money at the end of the day.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭jayteecork


    Saruman wrote: »
    Perhaps get on to the Coca cola bottlers and let them know. Let them sort it out as it is they that are losing money at the end of the day.

    Doubt it would much good.
    Super Valu and Dunnes know they're untouchable from Coke as most Coke is bought in Supermarkets.
    Hence if Super Valu and Dunnes said "FU so COKE, we won't sell your product anymore" Coke sales would fal through the floor.


    It's basically these supermarkets saying we can do whatever the fúck we want.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭waraf


    jayteecork wrote: »
    My point entirely is that this isn't working.

    ah yes I see now. Aother case of some muppet (namely me) not reading the OP's post properly before posting. I think it's a first on boards ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 419 ✭✭RiverWilde


    I for one won't buy a product that has been clearly labelled as 'part of multipack' that has been separated and is being sold separately.

    As far as I'm concerned the shopkeeper is ripping off his customers by hanging onto a discount that was meant for the customer.

    Riv


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    jayteecork wrote: »
    Doubt it would much good.
    Super Valu and Dunnes know they're untouchable from Coke as most Coke is bought in Supermarkets.
    Hence if Super Valu and Dunnes said "FU so COKE, we won't sell your product anymore" Coke sales would fal through the floor.


    It's basically these supermarkets saying we can do whatever the fúck we want.
    coca cola take this type of thing very seriously and will most likely send a rep out to all suoppervalue and dunnes in the area to check their stock! it is not only ripping people off it is damaging the reputation of coca cola.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,864 ✭✭✭MunsterCycling


    Coke would delist a company from stocking products from them for this, they then would have to source them elsewhere. Unlikley to happen but as had been stated this is a manager ripping off the customers for a little more margin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    jayteecork wrote: »
    I care for a lot of reasons.

    One, When I'm paying a euro or so FOR A SINGLE CAN I'd prefer that there's not a huge glaring "not for individual resale" on it. Like I'm too mean to pay for a single can and get one from the mulitpack in the garage before I leave the house.
    Two, yes it does taste somehow different - taste is often psychological as well as physiological.
    Three, it's downright insulting to the consumers charging us the same euro when it's obvious the mark up is hugely different like we're some sort of clowns that won't notice.

    And lastly, this a consumer issues forum, why on earth are you saying "If the shop can buy a product in cheaper and sell at the same price thereby reducing costs and maximising profits they'd be stupid not to. Wouldnt they?"

    You're just justifying supermarkets ripping off the public.

    I logged in just to thumbs up this post :)

    You're absolutely right.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 148 ✭✭magconn


    have seen this happen in a pub with bottled beer ! point out to publican and he blamed cash and carry ! tasted great tho!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,070 ✭✭✭ScouseMouse


    Coke would delist a company from stocking products from them for this, they then would have to source them elsewhere. Unlikley to happen but as had been stated this is a manager ripping off the customers for a little more margin.

    Absolute rubbish, IF I was doing it in my shop, they could not stop me. If they tried, I can tell them to feck off and get alternate supplies.
    foggy_lad wrote: »
    coca cola take this type of thing very seriously and will most likely send a rep out to all suoppervalue and dunnes in the area to check their stock! it is not only ripping people off it is damaging the reputation of coca cola.

    Same as above. They cannot do anything about it except perhaps stop sending in the multipacks. The shop would just buy them in the cash and carry instead.

    On top of this, if its a symbol store like Supervalu, Coke doesn't supply them anyway! They supply Musgrave central warehouse in Kilcock and the shop gets a direct delivery from there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,864 ✭✭✭MunsterCycling


    Like I said you would have to source them from alternative sources, and yes they can do this, they own the trademark.

    MC


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,070 ✭✭✭ScouseMouse


    Like I said you would have to source them from alternative sources, and yes they can do this, they own the trademark.

    MC

    They own the trademark ?????

    What does that have to do with it?

    Coke cannot stop anyone selling their products.

    Osama Bin Laden could start selling cans of coke in the middle of a Pakistan and legally, coke cannot stop him. As long as he sells coke as coke and not anything else, trademarks have absolutely nothing to do with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    coca cola take this type of thing very seriously and will most likely send a rep out to all suoppervalue and dunnes in the area to check their stock! it is not only ripping people off it is damaging the reputation of coca cola.

    I think you will find in most cases that a Coca Cola merchandiser most likely put the stock in the fridge or on the shelf in the first place. Especially in Super Values and Dunnes. I worked as a merchandiser and salesman for years in FMCG and have seen it done. The fact that large supermarkets pump so much money into coke and buy in bulk at very large quantities they will most likely make an excuse as to why nothing is done about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭wobzilla


    In the shop I work in, this is usually the customers fault. Some ****er always rips open a multipack so he can buy one can or bottle, then we're left with 5 other cans with a big "not to be sold seperately" label on it. What do you want us to do?, throw the other 5 cans out because you can't be bothered to buy the right product.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,231 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    If the item says not to be sold seperately, then whoever is selling it seperately is breaching the conditions, that they presumably must have agreed to when they bought the goods from the supplier.

    I would imagine that if enough people complained to the manufacturer, some retailers would be feeling the wrath of some high-flying lawyer. Once it was all spread around the media, the public would assume that the retailer is stitching up his customers.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,070 ✭✭✭ScouseMouse


    Ten years ago, there were merchandisers all over the place. Now things have been cut back massively. I was used to merchandisng three times a week but now, in smaller shops anyway, there is no merchandising.

    Its hard enough to get a rep to call, I kicked out my rep from coke for not bothering to come in anymore, he wanted an order over the phone! One call to his boss and he was replaced.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,070 ✭✭✭ScouseMouse


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    If the item says not to be sold seperately, then whoever is selling it seperately is breaching the conditions, that they presumably must have agreed to when they bought the goods from the supplier.

    I would imagine that if enough people complained to the manufacturer, some retailers would be feeling the wrath of some high-flying lawyer. Once it was all spread around the media, the public would assume that the retailer is stitching up his customers.

    What conditions?

    I ring coke and order 100 cases, they deliver it or maybe I go to the cash and carry and pick some up.

    The only terms and conditions are that I have to pay for it !!!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,231 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    What conditions?

    The ones you find out are in the small print, five minutes before they nail you to a tree for not complying with em.:P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,070 ✭✭✭ScouseMouse


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    The ones you find out are in the small print, five minutes before they nail you to a tree for not complying with em.:P

    Is this a joke ?

    Small print ?

    You think I sign a contract everytime I buy something for my shop?



    HAHAHAHAHAH:D:D:D:D:D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    be feeling the wrath of some high-flying lawyer.
    Apparently it is perfectly legal to do, this came up a while ago and somebody had complained to the manufacturer who said there is nothing they can do.

    The writing has no legal bearing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭dirtynosebeps


    T.B.H i wouldn't buy anything on it's own that says "not for individual sale". i would rarely buy a can on it's own full stop. my local tesco's are doing 12 cans of sprite for €5. bought a tray of 24 for €10. now that i think about i might as well stock up on it.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,441 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    If the item says not to be sold seperately, then whoever is selling it seperately is breaching the conditions, that they presumably must have agreed to when they bought the goods from the supplier.

    I would imagine that if enough people complained to the manufacturer, some retailers would be feeling the wrath of some high-flying lawyer. Once it was all spread around the media, the public would assume that the retailer is stitching up his customers.

    No such contract could possibly exist in Ireland.

    Once the shop buys the coke it is theirs to do with as they please.

    They can sell it for one million euro a can if they want.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 469 ✭✭knuth


    I would worry more about the Crisp Multipacks being sold - they are alot smaller than the single packs!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭pebbles21


    jayteecork wrote: »
    I care for a lot of reasons.

    One, When I'm paying a euro or so FOR A SINGLE CAN I'd prefer that there's not a huge glaring "not for individual resale" on it. Like I'm too mean to pay for a single can

    Why? would you be embarrassed about it? oh the shame:rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,808 ✭✭✭Ste.phen


    I don't get it, so the OP is happy enough to pay a euro for a can of Coke, but not if he thinks the shop paid slightly less for that can than they usually do?
    It's the same Coke, in the same can for the same price!

    besides, you could be paying a euro for a can, that would be 1.10 if the shop was buying them in trays and not splitting multipacks :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭gerrycollins


    jayteecork wrote: »
    I've been noticing this a lot lately, and not in corner shops.

    Super Valu and Dunnes are selling Coke and Lucozade claerly marked "not for individual resale"

    No big deal maybe, but it's insulting to the customers offering us cans with that label on it, clearly from discounted multipacks but selling to us at standard single prices.

    Just needed to get that off my chest, thanks!

    roughly how many cans were on sale?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,963 ✭✭✭✭Mimikyu


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭padocon


    But how come Coca Cola don't see the light themselves? Suddenly the shops order for multipacks has sprung up & for single cans gone down?

    I would give Coca Cola an email, its not fair that the shops are cheating like this! Those cans are reduced for us to make a saving when we buy bulk & NOT the supermarket! Definitely give CC a call or email. They will love you for it! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭gerrycollins


    While i dont do it as general practise if a multi pack is broken open i sell it off but i reduce it so that nobody gets offended.

    If its your local Dunnes then ring into head office. the manager might be doing it just to keep his wastage under check. I know that when on special the average retail price for a tray of Coke is €10.99.

    The manager is making about 60c a can which he is stupidly doing so because he must have a wastage issue somewhere else he is compentsating for. and if he stocks up on a couple of pallets of the stuff he might be having a date issue since they might have been around since xmas.

    Head office doesnt know he is doing it full time because they would not sanction it. What ever about one or two tray that burst open but constantly.

    He not trying to rip you off but cover his own back.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    padocon wrote: »
    But how come Coca Cola don't see the light themselves? Suddenly the shops order for multipacks has sprung up & for single cans gone down?

    I would give Coca Cola an email, its not fair that the shops are cheating like this! Those cans are reduced for us to make a saving when we buy bulk & NOT the supermarket! Definitely give CC a call or email. They will love you for it! :)

    But I'm sure that you can still buy the cans in the 6 pack at a reduced price.

    By putting "not for individual resale" on the cans coke are trying to force the retailer into buying the more expensive stock.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    Theres a guy in a well known market in Cork City selling Lidl bottles of water separately ............

    You cannot buy these separate in Lidl.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭mymo


    There's a shop near me that occasionally has stock that says not for individual resale, It's from when a multipack splits open or some idiot open one. The sell them in a basket clearly marked and at a reduced rate. I have no problem with this once I know what I'm buying.
    I do however have a problem with it when my local super valu sells the crisps from multipacks at same price as ordinary packs even though there smaller, they do this with other stock too. I have complained many times about this and no longer go in there, as they don't seem to care.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭padocon


    amcalester wrote: »
    But I'm sure that you can still buy the cans in the 6 pack at a reduced price.

    By putting "not for individual resale" on the cans coke are trying to force the retailer into buying the more expensive stock.

    You can still buy them. My point is not about that. Its about the shops. They should not be selling them separately.
    "By putting "not for individual resale" on the cans coke are trying to force the retailer into buying the more expensive stock"
    Of course. So they can sell the individual cans at a higher price per can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,625 ✭✭✭wmpdd3


    Just as matter of interest how much for a tray of 24 cans from the cash and carry?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 68 ✭✭ecom


    at the end of the day a retailer can sell a can of coke for whatever price they choose, whether the can has "not for individual sale" emblazoned all over it or whether it has a sterling label of 29p written on it.

    There is no 'law' that says it cant be done. The coke is the same coke more than likely, particularly if it is manufactured (or mixed) in Ireland.

    If you dont like it then dont buy it. Go to Spar and pay an extra 20c for it if you like. I dont consider this a consumer issue as there is freedom of choice as to where you buy a can of coke.

    did the OP ask Dunnes and SV how much they paid wholesale for the said can of coke? Was it cheaper than what they normally pay wholesale for a can of coke? The likelihood is that it was slightly cheaper, but have you proved that?

    Besides, if you actually shop around you can pick up a can of coke for 60c. And in some shops, 3 for €1.50. I'm not talking about the supermarkets and centras and Spars etc.

    The point of my post is shop around. You will get it cheaper.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    mymo wrote: »
    I do however have a problem with it when my local super valu sells the crisps from multipacks at same price as ordinary packs even though there smaller
    I would have no problem with this, except that with crisps they seem to have less stringent tolerances on the weights. I think they process pack them quicker and have wider variations, so 1 pack might be 20g and the next 30g, while they all average 25g. I have no problem with this "same price as normal", are the normal crisps alongside them? if so buy them, if not then how do you know what is the "normal price".
    wmpdd3 wrote: »
    Just as matter of interest how much for a tray of 24 cans from the cash and carry?
    In musgraves it is usually more than in a supermarket.
    ecom wrote: »
    The point of my post is shop around. You will get it cheaper.
    Yes, and if working on the same margins often the shop selling the multipacks will be cheaper.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    It can be justified if some kid or idiot opens up the contents of a multipac. As they cannot be sold due to tampering the contents could be sold off individually on the reduced price counter. If it was sold off at normal retail price I would object.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    If it was sold off at normal retail price I would object.
    But what is that price?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    [QUOTEClear stock ate, they are not in to makeing money, just clearing stock an there is nothing wrong with it. Tesco are renouned for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭padocon


    rubadub wrote: »
    But what is that price?

    Well I thought they were sold at price per single can.
    No? Yes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 292 ✭✭benj


    why would anyone care what was printed on a coke can that
    someone else was drinking from??? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    I don't know why there is a discussion on this - if anyone wants to object to the not for resale individual cans then simply don't buy them. No need to take the high moral ground on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭MrsMcSteamy


    On another note relating to this topic, was in a music store in Liffey Valley on saturday and they were selling dvds that had been took out of a partswork magazine collection. So its not just minerals. Oh and to add the dvds did have 'not for individual resale' printed on them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 831 ✭✭✭bungler


    magconn wrote: »
    have seen this happen in a pub with bottled beer ! point out to publican and he blamed cash and carry ! tasted great tho!!


    best quote ever nearly wet myself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭daveyid89


    jayteecork wrote: »
    I've been noticing this a lot lately, and not in corner shops.

    Super Valu and Dunnes are selling Coke and Lucozade claerly marked "not for individual resale"

    No big deal maybe, but it's insulting to the customers offering us cans with that label on it, clearly from discounted multipacks but selling to us at standard single prices.

    Just needed to get that off my chest, thanks!

    i love seeing this in shops.... its so funny......:)


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