nutrition

paul_b09

im wonderin can ny1 gv advice on ny products dat can help me put up weight healthly with no side effects? eg maximuscle

danthefan

I would ask here:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=252

thomond2006

Not being smart now, but you should ask someone qualified.

colman1212

you cant really just take something thats going to put on weight healthily.
If your playing rugby you need to put on weight in muscle.
This involves two things - Diet and exercise.
Basically you need a good weights program together with a high calorie high protein diet. Sort this out first and then you can look at suplementing your diet. I'd post in the fitness forum linked above.

paul_b09

ya iv been doin a weights nd cardio program since december 3 times a week. i got fully toned bt im still underweight 4 my height

LightningBolt

First off, eat between 5-7 large meals a day consisting of a palm sized portion of protein at least. Add in some complex carbs (brown bread, brown rice, porridge) and some fats (nuts, oils, eggs). Eat those meals using those combos and if you're missing out on protein in one or two meals only then substitute supplements in. There's a big shift in s+c coaches recommending their players to eat whole foods also due to the fact that you're getting in vital nutrients that you won't get through supplements.

Your wallet will thank you and your taste buds will thank you. A lot of cheap mass gainers are made up of simple sugars which aren't great for you.

If you do look at supplements, stay away from maximuscle. Nothing wrong with the product whatsoever it's just really overpriced. Look up irish-lifting.com or myprotein.co.uk for supplements, they're not too bad for prices.

paul_b09

cheers mate. appreciated

Sangre

Lift heavy and just eat everything you see (if you're underweight). Any extra flab you put on will come off pretty quickly with training.

Stick to foods list above. You could also try drinking loads of milk daily.

Make sure you are focusing on all the compound lifts, squats, deadlifts, bench etc.,

paul_b09

sound man. im nt really aiming to be a bodybuilder type. jus quick nd powerful

paul_b09

ny negative effects on ur body with protein?

Sangre

the fact that you think you can might accidently become a bodybuilder might be an indication that you don't really realise you hard it is to put on solid weight.

To get quicker and more powerful you'd need to make your muscles stronger. Aiming to continuously increase the weight on your squat, bench and deadlift. Don't ignore your dips, pull ups, rows and presses though.

If you're a healthy individual there is no harm in taking too much protein. its just another macro nutrient, like carbs or fat. Only downside is you eat waaay too much you'll just piss it out of you.

paul_b09

ya but wat my point was ers obviously 2 difrent trainin programs 4 bodybuildin nd wat i want to achieve. tnx 4 info tho

colman1212

paul_b09 wrote: »

ya but wat my point was ers obviously 2 difrent trainin programs 4 bodybuildin nd wat i want to achieve. tnx 4 info tho

Well I'm similar to yourself - I play rugby and find it hard to put on weight.
I started doing a training program called starting strength by mark rippletoe - great program for putting on weight.

www.startingstrength.net

you should really give it a shot.
Rugby is very much about leg strength so deadlifts and squats are very very important - and great for putting on weight.by the sounds of it your not doing these at the moment.

remus808

Well you obviously haven't tried:

OldJay

paul_b09 wrote: »

im wonderin can ny1 gv advice on ny products dat can help me put up weight healthly with no side effects? eg maximuscle

We have an advice section on our website (http://www.irishrugby.ie/9501_483.php) but anything further should only be followed up upon consultation from a qualified professional in this field.

Amabokke

I'm weighing constant now at 92kg with thanks to my own personal dieet.

Lots of red meat, raw eggs, chocolate, ice cream and a good supply of vegetables (healthy part). I also stopped exercising for a year and put on 8kgs but since then lost it again when started exercising. Don't think there is a real good or quick dieet unless you eats loads or alternative seek advice from dieet professional.

justsomebloke

truthfully from the sound of it I'm not sure you really know what you are doing. From the sound of it you are looking to put on weight without lifting heavy? cause if that is your aim then you are just going to end up being fat.

When trying to add mass you are going to put on a combination of both lean body mass and fat, the trick is trying to minimise the amount of fat you add on while maximising the amount of muscle you add. So what you should be trying to do is build up a lifting programme around you goals and as stated before this will be based on big compound lifting focusing on things like squat, deadlift, snatch, cleans and bench to name a few. Now you seem to think that you don't need to be doing these cause you don't want to be a body builder and if that is what you are thinking chances are your not going to hit your goals. Yes these are lifts that bodybuilders use however they are also the lifts any decent sports person will use as well the difference between them will be how they use the reps, sets and intensity to get the goals they want to achieve.

As for food I disagree with some of the posters you say you should just eat whatever and leave it to the training to get rid of the fat. You should be looking to keep your diet as clean as possible with lots of protein from lean meat, eggs, fish etc and fats (good fats and vitally important but ignoring them is a mistake a lot of people do) and good carbs (fruit, veg and wholegrains). You should be looking to get most of your nutrients from whole foods only after that look at supplements to make up any short falls (the name supplements gives it away they are only meant to SUPPLEMENT your diet). as stated irish-lifting.com and the supplement factory and both irish companies who provide cheap great quality supplements are Irish owned (if getting from irish-lifting try and stick with nutrition X products as once again they are an irish supplement company so support your own). Oh and ignore maximuscle as they are very overpriced for what they are and the companies above will give you better quality products as well.

d'Oracle

colman1212 wrote: »

Well I'm similar to yourself - I play rugby and find it hard to put on weight.
I started doing a training program called starting strength by mark rippletoe - great program for putting on weight.

www.startingstrength.net

you should really give it a shot.
Rugby is very much about leg strength so deadlifts and squats are very very important - and great for putting on weight.by the sounds of it your not doing these at the moment.

Do as this man suggests.

http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/Starting_Strength_Wiki.

Good information to get you started, but the book is important.
make sure to do the Power Cleans. They are ridiculously good for rugby.
But get started soon. Season is nearly back again....

Amabokke

Joe the Santa wrote: »

truthfully from the sound of it I'm not sure you really know what you are doing. From the sound of it you are looking to put on weight without lifting heavy? cause if that is your aim then you are just going to end up being fat.

I am no expert at fat percentage but mine is very low. I don't have a big belly (quite the opposite) and are very healthy. I'm not saying my dieet is the way to go but it certainly helped me put on a alot of weight. As mentioned as soon as I stopped excerising I got "fatter" so I believe some kind of excercise is important.

Keeping a clean dieet does not always work as people's body build, tolerance and metabolism are very different. Every person's body reacts differently to the next person regardless of the same dieet.

It's difficult to find the right balance and what will work for you. The OP will have to find out in different ways what works for him without side effects.

As for those nutrition products, I'm just not a big fan of it.

justsomebloke

sorry Amabokke my comments were aimed at the OP and not yourself.

But OP Amabokke does make a bloody important point and that is don't just do what someone else does and expect the same results, everyone needs individual tweaks to their diets so you will also have to do a lot of experimenting to find out what works for you. However the best way of doing that is knowing how your body deals with different fun groups why it needs them and when it needs them so I would advise educating yourself and reading up on the topic that way you are in the best position to tailor your own diet

oh and milk and squats FTW;)

Amabokke

sorry my bad