Motor factors, where do they source there stock

granadamad

Hi,

I'm looking for some info in relation to motor factors and where they source there spurious parts that us customers buy..

Is there any big chain of motor factors in Ireland? And who is importing these parts into the country?

Are there any main importers to Ireland of spurious parts that retail to motor factors and motor factor chains?

Any info greatly appreciated!

Thanks

Greenmachine

I don't have an answer for you OP unfortunately. Are you thinking maybe of getting into that line of business. Don't know if it applies as much in car, but with motorbikes a lot of the dealers sell spurious parts.. Mountjoy Mc are famous for getting hard to reach parts. Prolly are some car dealers who could source them too. If you are doing the work yourself on your own motor you could try ringing around I guess.

fletch

There's a place called CD Group based in Rosemount Industrial estates and they supply lots of motor factors with brake pads/discs/drums, clutches, exhausts, wipers, 3M products, head gaskets etc etc.

Darragh29

Well firstly you'll want to work a bit on your terminology. Not all parts are "spurious" as you put it. You'd need to educate yourself quite a bit before jumping in and trying to work in the trade with regard to parts supply. As for distributors, there are many of them in Ireland that import parts. Some for example also own several motor factors, for example AD Ireland, others like PR Reilly's don't own retail outlets except for their one on the Northside in their warehouse.

granadamad

im aware all parts are not spurious but it is spurious parts im after info on, ta for replys lads, any further info, il be passing on what youve all said to someone who has asked me about this

thanks again

Darragh29

granadamad wrote: »

im aware all parts are not spurious but it is spurious parts im after info on, ta for replys lads, any further info, il be passing on what youve all said to someone who has asked me about this

thanks again

Well make sure you fully understand the difference...

granadamad

there are spurious and genuine? genuine are same as orignally fitted to vehciles and spurius are other companies making simlar parts?

is this correct or is there more i should know?
thanks darragh29

Darragh29

granadamad wrote: »

there are spurious and genuine? genuine are same as orignally fitted to vehciles and spurius are other companies making simlar parts?

is this correct or is there more i should know?
thanks darragh29

As an example...

Pr Reilly's import Valeo headlamps into Ireland. These parts are not genuine as they do not come in a manufacturers box, for example VW or Renault. But if you get a Renault headlamp in a Renault box, it will likely be made by Valeo.

There is really no such thing as a genuine part... All vehicle manufacturers tender out the manufacture of vehicle sub components to companies like Hella (hedlamps & bulbs), valeo (starter motors, alternators, clutches, air con units, radiators, etc) , LuK (clutches), Chamption (spark plugs), NGK (timing belt kits), Ferodo (brake pads), etc...

Parts manufactured on the above basis are known as OEM suppliers or manufacturers. Companies like the above also supply the market independently through their own independent distribution channels, as well as supplying vehicle manufacturers who get them to the market (at a greater end price), through the distributor-dealer channel.

You also have other companies that manufacture "spurious" parts in China and other places that end up in the market but are not of OEM quality...

In recent years, car dealerships have been making this big thing out of saying that only they can supply "genuine" parts and everyone else in the market offers "spurious" parts. This was to ultimately scare people into only buying parts from a dealer outlet... The truth is very different...

VeVeX

Darragh29 wrote: »

others like PR Reilly's don't own retail outlets except for their one on the Northside in their warehouse.

Wrong !

PR Reillys have a retail shop in the Statoil Garage on the howth road and own Autozone retail outlets around the country.

Before you get onto your high horse you should have your facts straight too!

Darragh29

VeVeX wrote: »

Wrong !

PR Reillys have a retail shop in the Statoil Garage on the howth road and own Autozone retail outlets around the country.

Before you get onto your high horse you should have your facts straight too!

I can't account for every little corner of a petrol station that any distributor might have a presence in, can I?!?!?!?

I've never even heard of "Autozone" to be honest. I know AD have a large factor network around the country, I can't say of the same for Reilly's. If Reilly's happen to have a stand down in a Statoil garage somewhere on the Howth Road that sells wipers and air fresheners, then I won't be arguing with you on that....

What I'm trying to clarify here all the time on this forum are the loose words and terminology that was only introduced by vested interests to confuse consumers and further the interests of big businesses like the franchised network.

245

PR Reilly's outlet on the Howth Road was well enough known when I worked there a good few years ago we sold to trade as well as operating as an accessory shop - there was a paint shop out the back that was especially well known in the trade. That was before the big renovation....

We sold a lot of service kits, panels etc - much more than just air fresheners and wipers.

It was also reasonably widely believed within the company that they had an involvement in Tallaght Auto Parts and Ashgrove Interparts. As staff we were instructed to give them bigger discounts and prompt attention. They in turn stocked a disproportionate amount of our stock (maybe they still do).

Darragh29

245 wrote: »

PR Reilly's outlet on the Howth Road was well enough known when I worked there a good few years ago we sold to trade as well as operating as an accessory shop - there was a paint shop out the back that was especially well known in the trade. That was before the big renovation....

We sold a lot of service kits, panels etc - much more than just air fresheners and wipers.

It was also reasonably widely believed within the company that they had an involvement in Tallaght Auto Parts and Ashgrove Interparts. As staff we were instructed to give them bigger discounts and prompt attention. They in turn stocked a disproportionate amount of our stock (maybe they still do).

Well this is what Reilly's are well known for, they'll agree to supply you as a motor factor, next thing you know, they're handing you sales targets and trying to run your business for you and telling you what discounts you can give your own customers, and what you can and cannot sell to people in terms of competitors brands that you might be buying from somewhere else. A lot of outlets won't deal with Reilly's because of their attitude, I used to deal with them and I wouldn't buy a split pin them now, all down to their attitude.

Fishtits

I'm in a very similar business and Darragh29 speaks the truth, read all his posts.

Some factors source parts from other than OEM suppliers, there are instances where you can get parts from non OEM suppliers that are as good as OEM. Brazil is a good location for high quality non OEM stuff in my experience.

Many OEM suppliers are available through factors, Febi/Bilstein for example.

Many German non OEM suppliers are also good.

I've never experienced anything but rubbish that's come from China or India though, they were all the rage a year or two ago but have died a death due to poor performance.

Buy cheap, buy twice.

And, always give the main dealers a ring, due to promotions, they sometimes have prices cheaper than factors.

Fishtits.

OldmanMondeo

Darragh29 is correct, well except for PR Reilly's, The y do have several "Branches" called Autozone. These do supply to the some motor factors as well as the head office. Other main suppliers are, Qualvecom, Firstline, KC Products, Somera, J&S Autoparts, BR Howard to name a few. All these, like the company I work for, AD Ireland, import and supply the Factor trade, our branches will also supply direct to public and to Trade garages.

The above mentioned supply, in the main, OEM product.

Kartale

As mentioned there are varioue outlets that wholesale.
these do alot of body panels, rads, regulators etc. Based in Parkwest
http://www.somora.ie/

http://www.hella.com/hella-ie-en/index.html, based on Old Airport Rd

http://www.serfac.ie/ in tallaght

Darragh29

granadamad wrote: »

Hi,

I'm looking for some info in relation to motor factors and where they source there spurious parts that us customers buy..

Is there any big chain of motor factors in Ireland? And who is importing these parts into the country?

Are there any main importers to Ireland of spurious parts that retail to motor factors and motor factor chains?

Any info greatly appreciated!

Thanks

Just off the top of my head OP, would your friend by any chance be trying to start up a parts website??? This seems to be the latest gig in town, loads of lads doing it but from what I can see, very few doing it very well...

I.S.T.

granadamad wrote: »

Hi,

I'm looking for some info in relation to motor factors and where they source there spurious parts that us customers buy..

Is there any big chain of motor factors in Ireland? And who is importing these parts into the country?

Are there any main importers to Ireland of spurious parts that retail to motor factors and motor factor chains?

Any info greatly appreciated!

Thanks

http://www.lenwoods.ie/

xt40

Darragh29 wrote: »

Well this is what Reilly's are well known for, they'll agree to supply you as a motor factor, next thing you know, they're handing you sales targets and trying to run your business for you and telling you what discounts you can give your own customers, and what you can and cannot sell to people in terms of competitors brands that you might be buying from somewhere else. A lot of outlets won't deal with Reilly's because of their attitude, I used to deal with them and I wouldn't buy a split pin them now, all down to their attitude.

ive had dealings with reillys and found them to be a very professional company
the owners stood out to me as being particularly nice people.

solo1484

Wow you sound like your taking that personally or something!?

Darragh29 wrote: »

Well make sure you fully understand the difference...

solo1484

Darragh29 wrote: »

Just off the top of my head OP, would your friend by any chance be trying to start up a parts website??? This seems to be the latest gig in town, loads of lads doing it but from what I can see, very few doing it very well...

See also http://www.irishautoparts.ie/

I've had dealings with them and their v professional-got clutch next day from ordering and they seem to have a full range of parts etc...

Darragh29

xt40 wrote: »

ive had dealings with reillys and found them to be a very professional company
the owners stood out to me as being particularly nice people.

Well I've had dealings with them and my experience has been that their attitude leaves a lot to be desired.

solo1484 wrote: »

Wow you sound like your taking that personally or something!?

No, not taking anything personally, I just think that there have been scare tactics used in the industry in recent years by vested interests to manipulate consumers, words like "genuine" and "spurious" have been used out of context by the franchised end of the industry to cultivate a wave of fear amongst consumers, all done to try to scare and herd consumers into overpriced dealerships for vehicle maintenance.

This is against the letter and spirit of Block Exemption legislation and if you're getting into parts on the basis that everything you sell is "spurious" and everything that the franchised network sells is "genuine", then you are not going to get very far.

I'm just saying that the OP needs to be very aware that he/she can sell OEM quality products to an end user without dealing with a franchised dealer.

tomred1

IrishSpeedTraps wrote: »

http://www.lenwoods.ie/

Ah len wood but his wife wouldn't.