Basic and probably stupid question

the corpo

We're definitely getting into the idea of a self build for our first home. Most sites in Dublin seem to be sold with planning permission already granted. Is it a given then that if you want to submit your own plans, and as long as the outline of the new plan isn't wildly different from the existing one, permission should be easily granted? Are there any difficulties in submitting new plans in place of existing ones?

muffler

Normal enough practice. You would be making an application for change of house design and if there isn't a huge difference between what was granted and what you propose then you shouldn't encounter any difficulty.

You will need a technician/architect in any event so they will advise you accordingly.

the corpo

thats what i was thinking, thanks!

A country home

the corpo wrote: »

thats what i was thinking, thanks!

just make sure your within the Councils Devel plan. .

in simple terms, , , make sure yer dreams are the same as whats in that little pdf file on most council websites. from personal exp. . just been thru it.

a, dream and trash it about and in the end go with what the council advise,
or b, just design to the councils spec from the first whistle. . could save months or yrs. .

the corpo

in broad terms, is there a lot of room to change the plans internally, as long as the house fascia isn't being altered? the existing plans for the site we like have too many rooms, we're much prefer a more open plan design

sas

the corpo wrote: »

in broad terms, is there a lot of room to change the plans internally, as long as the house fascia isn't being altered? the existing plans for the site we like have too many rooms, we're much prefer a more open plan design

I'm open to correction here but as far as I know you can change the internal layout without planning permission. Is that all that you don't like about the original plan?

the corpo

the corpo wrote: »

in broad terms, is there a lot of room to change the plans internally, as long as the house fascia isn't being altered? the existing plans for the site we like have too many rooms, we're much prefer a more open plan design

From a planning perspective, what goes on inside is entirely up to you, a quote from the roscommon coco planners when I asked the same question.

the corpo

ok.
the existing exterior we could live with, though obviously i'd prefer the couple of turrets and giant dome i'd originally envisioned

the corpo

thanks!

Penn

So long as you aren't changing the scope of the house (ie. what you stated in your planning application, making it a 4 bedroom instead of a 3 bedroom etc) then fire ahead.

Quack13

Depending on which way your house is located with regards to the road/other houses etc you could get away with some more adventurous stuff on the 'blind' side.

On our plans as the front of the house is very simple and traditional looking, where as the back (where no-one can see) we got away with some more adventurous ideas, such as large double height room with large floor to ceiling window etc etc

you just have to be a bit clever about the design I guess.

Juantorena

the corpo wrote: »

We're definitely getting into the idea of a self build for our first home. Most sites in Dublin seem to be sold with planning permission already granted. Is it a given then that if you want to submit your own plans, and as long as the outline of the new plan isn't wildly different from the existing one, permission should be easily granted? Are there any difficulties in submitting new plans in place of existing ones?

We did this. Submitted through our engineer but we drew up a 'design justification' document which outlined the reasoning behind the design, proposed systems, aligning with coco design pointers, etc. Essentially showing you have considered the design carefully and have a sound justification for the proposal. Included it in the submission package. We did keep the external finish the same which was about the only thing which remained from the previous permission.

And we have two 5.2m long glazed sections to the ostensibly front elevation....

mickdw

Deleted User wrote: »

From a planning perspective, what goes on inside is entirely up to you, a quote from the roscommon coco planners when I asked the same question.

I dont think that is strictly correct. You cannot for instance build habitable accomodation in your attic space creating a third floor without planning etc