New Opel Car Keys

ether

Broke my car key in the ignition of opel zafira, got auto locksmith to come out and take piece out and cut new key plus taking out chip and reprogramming to new key.

Car will not fire up, its just turning over. Help please?

robbie_998

immobilizer :pac:

ether

Ok so if its the immobiliser should I get onto Opel or should this have been sorted?

robbie_998

Opel directly but whatever way the lock smith did it he might still have the immobilized key for that specific car

the alarm might be ok cos thats just a signal thing

its kinda the whole key assigned to the car

ether

I still have the old key and have tried holding it up to the new key when turning the car over but shouldn't the new key work if the chip was put into it?

robbie_998

nope

i cant remember if the chip is in the metal bit or big bit but everything kinda has to be the same as the other and all that jazz

opel should be able to program it all most likely without changing the keys again but the only problem is you'll need to get the car to them :rolleyes:

ether

So I should have gone straight to Opel as no one else could have done the programming.

robbie_998

well that depends like

put it this way

the key did open the car but it didnt start it...but yeah its an opel thing but it just depends on the car if they can do it properly. some are tricky some are easy

but you shouldnt have a problem with opel

martinr5232

Did the locksmith programme the new key to the car ?

ether

Thats what I was told, Chip was programmed to new key

Lucifer

If your car is the older model zafira, the key and remote are programmed separately so if he provided you with a new key and the old remote your central locking will still work but the car will not start. It sounds like he tried to clone your old key but hasnt done it properly. If you open up your new key and remove the smalll black chip in the key part and replace it with the chip from your old key your car should start. Its possible that if you have an unknow chip in the new key that it is dectecting that instead of your old key when you hold it up to it. let me know if this works or not.

ether

I've attached some pics of the keys if this helps, don't know what is the chip in the old key as there are a few black shapes. New key is different to the old key in that the chip was put in the top where red area is, this is proving difficult to open also

rccaulfield

go back to him-get money back or get him to fix it???????????????????????????????

harveydent

Cowboy!!
Call www.autokey.ie , they'll give you advice

Lucifer

In the first pic you posted the old transponder chip should be located in the corner of the broken part of the key, not either of the parts of the remote. It is a small little black chip that should be stuck in the corner of the plastic U shaped part. If it is not there either it has been lost or he took it out. This chip should still start the car so see if you still have that and if so, remove the red part from the new key and replace the chip in there with this. If you are still unsure post another picture of that part and I may be able to see if it is still there, is hard to tell from the pic.

If that is missing you need to find out has he just swapped it over or what has that guy done. If it is a new chip he has used, perhaps it is the wrong one as there are a few different types.

Also check does your car have anti theft warning, most dont but the odd one has, you can tell this by looking up at the interior light in the centre. If there are two ultra sonic alarm sensors built in here, you have anti theft, in which case he may have used the wrong chip or programmed it incorrectly.

Let me know the answers to this and I will help more.

claney

I know the thread started a while back but I had the same problem and managed to sort it out. Once you take the fob apart, look at the inside wall of the horse-shoe part of the fob, the bit that has the metal key affixed. Of the pictures posted earlier, the first picture, it was the piece in theupper left of the picture. The chip is slided into a groove on the inner wall of this horse-shoe part. If you slide this out and position it on your new fob in the same orientation (I used a bit of super glue and then some insulation tape, it will work. But if the chip is attached in any position other than the position it was in originally, it won't work. Cost of getting ordinary blank key fob cut in any key cutters was about €10. Cost at main dealer was about €150. If you ever break the key, alway keep the key fob.