Job Vacancy

tuom

In the company where I work there was a vacancy earlier in the year I asked my manager about it as my husband was and is still out of work and getting no payment as he was self employed, the manager said send me his cv, i was also asked by one of the clerical staff a few days later what size protective gear my husband would take, well my manager told me that because he had got so many cvs (he ws surprised) he could not give my husband the job as there were more qualified applicants, fine although I would have thought he would have given him an interview.

Any way as it turned out the job was already given so to speak, this made things iffy for a while, the new guy has turned out to be not very reliable.
A few weeks ago my manager said that he may be taking on more on a temporary basis but then told me that he did not get the extra work so he could not offer him a job. Fine

Then today my manager again says to me I have to take someone on to cover a person that is out sick but the board of directors are telling him that he has to take someone from those already interviewed, fine i accept that too , but cant help feeling there is more to this or am i overreacting

Mrs OBumble

There may be more going on, or you may be over-reacting.

Either way, it's not a good idea for husband/wife to be working in the same company. Even if the relationship/pillow-talk dynamics are not an issue, it's not good for you both to depend on the same income source: if something happens to the company, you're both out of work at the same time.

tuom

JustMary wrote: »

There may be more going on, or you may be over-reacting.

Either way, it's not a good idea for husband/wife to be working in the same company. Even if the relationship/pillow-talk dynamics are not an issue, it's not good for you both to depend on the same income source: if something happens to the company, you're both out of work at the same time.

Thanks for that I agree with all you have said but at the moment it would be a great help financially even if it was just for a short time, it is just that you know the way it seems , this was done for other people before and I am the longest serving staff member after the manager, I suppose I kind of feel let down a bit

greendom

JustMary wrote: »

There may be more going on, or you may be over-reacting.

Either way, it's not a good idea for husband/wife to be working in the same company. Even if the relationship/pillow-talk dynamics are not an issue, it's not good for you both to depend on the same income source: if something happens to the company, you're both out of work at the same time.

And how different would that be from their current situation if she loses her job ?

dh0661

OP - IMO your manager is not impressed with your OH.

IMO your manager seems to be very impressed with your contribution to the company, which is why he feels obliged to give you the excuses for not employing your OH.

In reality managers are obliged to employ people that they think will be able to do the job.

leeroybrown

I'd guess that your manager is being diplomatic towards you because he either doesn't want to employ your husband or isn't in a position to do so. Perhaps he sees it as a potential problem for him if he's seen employing someone through nepotism. Perhaps he mentioned it to a director who vetoed it. Perhaps he's looked at your husband's qualifications and work background and has decided that there are more suitable candidates on available. Perhaps he's concerned what would happen with you if he had to subsequently let him go. There are loads more potential reasons.

If I were in his position, I'd almost always suggest that an application is sent in but that doesn't really mean any more than that. Likewise, if someone I know applies for a job where I work, I always give an honest assessment of their suitability - regardless of whether it helps them or not.

tuom

dh0661 wrote: »

OP - IMO your manager is not impressed with your OH.

IMO your manager seems to be very impressed with your contribution to the company, which is why he feels obliged to give you the excuses for not employing your OH.

In reality managers are obliged to employ people that they think will be able to do the job.

Point taken although manager knows OH and cannot see a reason why he would have anything against him, update on this one of the members of the Board of Directors has heard OH did not get an interview (small town) and is upset as he never knew my Oh had applied.
Person who got the job is on 2nd written warning, manager was told he was taking a risk with this person. what thoughts?

tuom

leeroybrown wrote: »

I'd guess that your manager is being diplomatic towards you because he either doesn't want to employ your husband or isn't in a position to do so. Perhaps he sees it as a potential problem for him if he's seen employing someone through nepotism. Perhaps he mentioned it to a director who vetoed it. Perhaps he's looked at your husband's qualifications and work background and has decided that there are more suitable candidates on available. Perhaps he's concerned what would happen with you if he had to subsequently let him go. There are loads more potential reasons.

If I were in his position, I'd almost always suggest that an application is sent in but that doesn't really mean any more than that. Likewise, if someone I know applies for a job where I work, I always give an honest assessment of their suitability - regardless of whether it helps them or not.

I agree with what you say but I never took it for granted that OH would get the job but when asked about the size for clothing etc it is only human to think you were in with a chance ? person who got the job is cousin of other employee so nepotism not an issue, I may be over reacting but I am taking it quite personally this is probably due to the stress of unemployment debts etc.

leeroybrown

I never meant to imply that you took it for granted, but your manager may be finding it awkward to read the situation.

I wouldn't put a cousin at there same level as direct family member though. If it's a small town then perhaps your manager is actually coming under pressure to find jobs for people he is related to, knows, etc. and is trying to keep his nose clean. That said, I think that any of us here would just be guessing at this stage.

My advice would be to keep up the effort to get your husband an interview without being too pushy about it. Best of luck...

tuom

thanks for that you know at his stage I wish I had never mentioned OH to manager, i know he is in a position where he was tormented with calls about the job better I suppose to just draw a line as the yanks say and move on, OH may get a job thanks for comments

tuom

leeroybrown wrote: »

I never meant to imply that you took it for granted, but your manager may be finding it awkward to read the situation.

I wouldn't put a cousin at there same level as direct family member though. If it's a small town then perhaps your manager is actually coming under pressure to find jobs for people he is related to, knows, etc. and is trying to keep his nose clean. That said, I think that any of us here would just be guessing at this stage.

My advice would be to keep up the effort to get your husband an interview without being too pushy about it. Best of luck...

Just to give you an update the new person is starting on Monday, I asked my Manager was there some particular reason that my OH did not get an interview in the first place, he said no that they shortlisted according to qualifications , that I accepted fine until he then said this to me "if you ask me anymore about this I will have to see it a bullying " I certainly did not see that coming in fact I had this done and dusted until he brought it up last week, anyhow that has told me, thanks for all thoughts.

PK2008

tuom wrote: »

Just to give you an update the new person is starting on Monday, I asked my Manager was there some particular reason that my OH did not get an interview in the first place, he said no that they shortlisted according to qualifications , that I accepted fine until he then said this to me "if you ask me anymore about this I will have to see it a bullying " I certainly did not see that coming in fact I had this done and dusted until he brought it up last week, anyhow that has told me, thanks for all thoughts.

You referred your husband to your Manager for a job- what happens after that point is between the 2 of them. I know you're married to the guy but honestly i think you should mind you own business.

The fact that you are questioning hiring policies (and indirectly your managers ability) because of this just goes to show why married couples working together can be problematic

Your husband made an application- he wasnt successful, end of, its time for you to drop it

mikemac

tuom wrote: »

Thanks for that I agree with all you have said but at the moment it would be a great help financially even if it was just for a short time, it is just that you know the way it seems , this was done for other people before and I am the longest serving staff member after the manager, I suppose I kind of feel let down a bit

Saying it was done for other people before and that you are a long serving employee make it seem you reckon you are due a favor.
Now that's probably incorrect but it's what struck me about your post.

Your husband applied and wasn't successful.
And he didn't ask for feedback, you did!
Leave it be, your husband can call to find out what happened and why he was unsuccessful, even if you are married to the guy you are not the applicant and shouldn't be asking about what happened in the selection process.

tuom

Point taken I have put it to bed again, just to point out that I had left it go until my manager brought it to my attention last week. Thank you anyway good input food for thought