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Animism still alive and well in Ireland

  • 09-07-2009 2:28pm
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    NEARLY 2,000 people have signed a petition seeking to prevent the removal of a tree stump on the grounds of a Co Limerick church, which they believe depicts an image of the Blessed Virgin.

    Scores of people from across the country gathered to say prayers at Holy Mary Parish Church in Rathkeale yesterday where workmen made the discovery while cutting down trees earlier this week.

    People from the town organised the petition in an effort to have the stump, which was due to be dug out of the ground yesterday, made into a permanent fixture at the church. “We have almost 2,000 signatures on the petition already and we are going to continue getting more,” said shopkeeper Séamus Hogan.

    “People have been coming from Kerry and Clare to see this tree, which we believe shows a clear outline of Our Lady,” he continued. Mr Hogan said the discovery was bringing people from all walks of life to Rathkeale to pray.

    “It’s doing no harm and it’s bringing people together from young and old to black and white, Protestant and Catholic, to say a few prayers, so what’s wrong with that? There’s enough violence and intolerance going on in the world,” he said.

    According to Noel White, Rathkeale Community Council graveyard committee chairman, the trees were cut down because of old age and the danger they posed to the adjacent schoolyard. “These trees will be replaced. However, I have given assurance that our committee will not be removing this tree stump. Nature has a funny way of showing things up and let it be a freak of nature or something else, but, whatever it is, surely it is a wonderful thing to see so many people coming out to pray, especially young people who have been saying the rosary in the church for the past few nights.”

    Local parish priest Fr Willie Russell said on radio station Limerick Live 95FM yesterday that people should not worship the tree. “There’s nothing there . . . it’s just a tree . . . you can’t worship a tree.”

    A spokesman for the Limerick diocesan office said the “church’s response to phenomena of this type is one of great scepticism”.

    “While we do not wish in any way to detract from devotion to Our Lady, we would also wish to avoid anything which might lead to superstition,” he said.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2009/0709/1224250319175.html


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,532 ✭✭✭Lou.m


    Not sure that this is pagan.....but sure good for them:p

    Not sure it is Christian either or really Animism either but sure it takes all sorts:-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,259 ✭✭✭Rowley Birkin QC


    I think it's more capitalism than anything else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭colly_browy


    Here's a video clip of it. Seriously, have the locals lost their marbles? It looks more like Mr. Burns.

    http://www.tv3.ie/news.php?video=11131&locID=1.2.141


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭hairyheretic


    To be honest, I've looked at the pictures in a few news stories, and I can't see a thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭Phototoxin


    I can see what they're getting at but SWEET BEALZEBUBS RIGHT TESTICLE! ITS A LUMP OF A TREE!!! :mad:

    Fair play to the priest who (correctly imho) advised the not to worship it. Otherwise it's idolatory to Christians!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭Abhainn-Rivers


    To be honest, I've looked at the pictures in a few news stories, and I can't see a thing.

    Can't remember where but I heard that people usually start to "see" such images during times of economical stress...maybe you need to be poorer? I'm in need of charity! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 Ulsteryank


    I like it being around. Folk Catholicism mirrors Celtic Christianity, which preserved our pagan folk traditions in a different guise. Everytime I see rags tied on tree's, remote Mary shrines, or springs dedicated to a saint, I'm thankful for these land markers. Buíochas le déithe!(Of course this specific one is rooted in Christianity however)


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