Guess Ryanair's next scheme

ejmaztec

It seems that every week, the god that is Michael O'Leary comes up with another odd-ball announcement.:D

There's a strong possibility that next week, passengers will be strapped to the wings, and also take turns flying the plane to reduce costs.

http://www.independent.ie/travel/travel-advice/ryanair-to-make-passengers-stand-1808116.html

Ryanair is considering proposals to make some of its customers stand during flights.
The low-cost airline would charge passengers less on "bar stools" with seat belts around their waists.
Michael O'Leary, the chief executive, has already held talks with US plane manufacturer Boeing about designing an aircraft with standing room.
He is now seeking approval from the Irish Aviation Authority before ordering a new fleet of carriers, according to The Sun.
A Ryanair spokesman told the newspaper: "If they approve it, we'll be doing it."
Mr O'Leary is reported to have got the idea from the Chinese airline Spring, which has put forward similar plans. It estimates space could be made for up to 50 per cent more passengers and costs could be cut by 20 per cent.
It is not the first time Ryanair has come up with a controversial proposal for cutting costs. Earlier this year Mr O'Leary suggested passengers could be charged £1 to use the on-board lavatories.
In an interview on BBC television he said that the low-cost airline was looking at the possibility of installing a coin slot on the lavatory door so that "people might actually have to spend a pound to spend a penny."
Mr O'Leary also considered introducing a "fat tax" for overweight passengers.
©Telegraph.co.uk
- Ben Leach

Leixlip_Red

That man is a legend !

Hellrazer

ejmaztec wrote: »

The low-cost airline would charge passengers less on "bar stools" with seat belts around their waists.

I think Id prefer to sit on a bar stool than squeeze myself into their normal seats.Might be a bit more leg room!!

mobius42

By posting this, you're playing right into Michael O'Leary's hands. The PR stunts are coming thick and fast from them at the moment!

biko

ejmaztec wrote: »

Mr O'Leary is reported to have got the idea from the Chinese airline Spring, which has put forward similar plans.

China's Spring Airlines is in a bit of a pickle. The air carrier has enjoyed a steady increase in passengers since its start in '05 thanks to low fares (which means next to no complimentary in-flight amenities), and now its fleet of 13 planes can't handle all the prospective customers. The airline already has 14 new jets on the way, but that's not enough, officials say.

The solution? Make passengers stand! Well, not completely, but close enough. "It's just like bar stools. The safety belt is the most important thing. It will still be fastened around the waist," Spring Airlines' Zhang Wuan told China's CCTV. The new arrangement, according to Spring Airlines, would allow 40% more passengers on every flight and help reduce the carrier's cost by up to 20%, which would in turn lower fares.

Spring Airlines president Wang Zhenghua may even want to take the idea further, after talking with China's vice premier, Zhang Dejiang. "He suggested that, for a lower price, passengers should be able to get on a plane like catching a bus, with no seat, no luggage consignment, no food, no water, but very convenient," Mr. Zhenghua said.

That kind of reasoning is entirely opposite to most airlines, which seek to recoup losses through luxury services and optimized routes while still providing comfort. Still, it's just a proposal for the time being. Spring Airlines wants to submit its plan by the end of the year.

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Berty

This is nothing new. Reported on boards.ie a few weeks back in Travel & Holidays.

The chinese are currently trying to have this passed by their government safety gurus so we will see soon.

Check them out boarding trains.

http://www.asianoffbeat.com/CoolVideos/Crowded%20Commuter%20Train.jpg

Hitchhiker's Guide to...

Ryanair have flown 60 million passengers over the last 12 months, so they're obviously doing something spot-on.

In fact, they will increase passenger numbers by 10 million this year from 57 million in 2008 to 67 million in 2009.

silly1

I guess that this initiative would allow them to introduce First Class and Business Class somewhat along the following lines ...

First Class - A seat and a voucher for lavatory use.
Business Class - A stool and class two lavatory voucher (No 1's only)
Comfort Class - Standing at the rear of plane with railed buttock support provided free.

ejmaztec

mobius42 wrote: »

By posting this, you're playing right into Michael O'Leary's hands. The PR stunts are coming thick and fast from them at the moment!

We can beat him at his own game by coming out with our own OTT, off-the-wall, whacko, insane ideas then sue him for stealing them.:pac:

keefg

Berty wrote: »

This is nothing new. Reported on boards.ie a few weeks back in Travel & Holidays.

The chinese are currently trying to have this passed by their government safety gurus so we will see soon.

Check them out boarding trains.

http://www.asianoffbeat.com/CoolVideos/Crowded%20Commuter%20Train.jpg

That photo is gas!

irish_goat

People sit quite comfortably on bar stools for hours on end, why would it be such a big deal on a 1 hour flight?

Gamesnash.ie: Pat

I'd nearly be enclined to pay more to sit on a bar stool. I hate being crammed into plane seats.

Owen

ejmaztec wrote: »

take turns flying the plane to reduce costs.

I'd enjoy that!

Wazdakka

Sounds like a good idea tbh..

I bloody love Ryanair.
Everybody seems to bitch about the lack of included services ect..

But I think Micheal O'Leary actually wants to give everybody free transport.
He'll make the money off you on the food / baggage / extras
And if it's cheaper just to sit on a barstool in a plane for 3 hours I'd do it.
Probably more leg room anyway..

Micheal O'Leary for Tíosach!!

MoominPapa

O'Leary can be quite dismissive of PR stunts - when other do them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYXNdcAThdA

ejmaztec

PaintDoctor wrote: »

I'd enjoy that!

People would pay good money for a white-knuckle ride.:pac:

IvyTheTerrible

This is such a PR stunt, I'd say it'll never get cleared by the security regulators.

(I still wish they could charge fat people more but that's another thread...:pac:)

davidoco

Have they started already ???

Tried to book a flight this morning....


Going Out (Web Fare)
2 Adult @ 59.99 EUR 119.98 EUR
Taxes/Fees details 66.74 EUR
Coming Back (Web Fare)
2 Adult @ 24.99 EUR 49.98 EUR
Taxes/Fees details 44.88 EUR

4 x (Web Check in) 20.00 EUR
4 x (Fuel surcharge) 40.00 EUR
2 x (2nd pilot surcharge) 10.00 EUR
4 x (clean seat surcharge) 10.00 EUR
Total Cost of Flight 301.58 EUR
Excluding handling fee (if applicable)

For a full list of Ryanair fees, please click here

Fozzie Bear

If O'Leary reads this I'm guessing passengers will be required to carry a tool kit when flying (or in Ryanairs case a roll of duct tape & a big feck off hammer!)

ejmaztec

davidoco wrote: »

Have they started already ???

Tried to book a flight this morning....


Going Out (Web Fare)
2 Adult @ 59.99 EUR 119.98 EUR
Taxes/Fees details 66.74 EUR
Coming Back (Web Fare)
2 Adult @ 24.99 EUR 49.98 EUR
Taxes/Fees details 44.88 EUR

4 x (Web Check in) 20.00 EUR
4 x (Fuel surcharge) 40.00 EUR
2 x (2nd pilot surcharge) 10.00 EUR
4 x (clean seat surcharge) 10.00 EUR
4 x (wing-straps) 20.00 EUR
4 x (parachute) 10.00 EUR
4 x (oxygen-masks) 20.00 EUR
2 x (I love Michael O'Leary beer-mugs) 40.00 EUR

Total Cost of Flight 391.58 EUR
Excluding handling fee (if applicable)

For a full list of Ryanair fees, please click here

FYP, and yes they've already started, and some:pac:

TheZohanS

davidoco wrote: »

Have they started already ???

Tried to book a flight this morning....


Going Out (Web Fare)
2 Adult @ 59.99 EUR 119.98 EUR
Taxes/Fees details 66.74 EUR
Coming Back (Web Fare)
2 Adult @ 24.99 EUR 49.98 EUR
Taxes/Fees details 44.88 EUR

4 x (Web Check in) 20.00 EUR
4 x (Fuel surcharge) 40.00 EUR
2 x (2nd pilot surcharge) 10.00 EUR
4 x (clean seat surcharge) 10.00 EUR
Total Cost of Flight 301.58 EUR
Excluding handling fee (if applicable)

For a full list of Ryanair fees, please click here

You should have gone with the blow-job option.

Porkpie

Standing on a plane - ridiculous. What'll it be next, snakes on a plane?

phasers

I'd like that, Ryanair flights have shyte legroom and I'd prefer to stand

antodeco

I cant stand flying with Ryanair....


Ok ok, Im always flying with Ryanir. A good way of making money is be sticking in phone chargers into the seats. €2 for a an hour or charging. Awesome.

The above idea was created today 6th July 2009. If it is published anywhere, I own the rights to it.

orourkeda

antodeco wrote: »

I cant stand flying with Ryanair....


Ok ok, Im always flying with Ryanir. A good way of making money is be sticking in phone chargers into the seats. €2 for a an hour or charging. Awesome.

The above idea was created today 6th July 2009. If it is published anywhere, I own the rights to it.

We don't want to stand flying for them either.

Wazdakka

antodeco wrote: »

The above idea was created today 6th July 2009. If it is published anywhere, I own the rights to it.

I believe the boards admins own the rights to it now.

Muhahahahahahaha!!

honeymonster

it just gets worse. Last I heard they were thinking of making people load their luggage in the belly of the plane. Is this going to happen?

Wazdakka

honeymonster wrote: »

it just gets worse. Last I heard they were thinking of making people load their luggage in the belly of the plane. Is this going to happen?

If it lowers the cost of he flight or stops it raising with all the others due to petrol prices then I bloody hope so.

People are too spoilt by airlines over the last few years.
All of these things we take for granted and bitch about loosing became the norm back when flying was super expensive and exclusive.

You want bus type prices for flights to other countries?
Be willing to accept bus type service and stop bloody moaning about it.



Edit: Sorry everyone if my posts today are hostile.. Giving up smoking is NOT working out well

Ruu_Old

I'm all for the fat tax but it'll never go ahead.

the_dark_side

honeymonster wrote: »

it just gets worse. Last I heard they were thinking of making people load their luggage in the belly of the plane. Is this going to happen?

Im friggin nervous enough as it is, flying Ryanair... just imagine an extra 50 people jammed on board in the name of reducing flying costs... what happens the inflight service? What about weight distribution? I thought the baggae handlers were the only people authorised to load the plane.. is there not a correct proceedure to doing this? I might just quit flying and be done with it...

Dave!

Typical, Michael O'Leary comes out with some silly idea that will never be implemented, and every news source in the country laps it up and gives Ryanair the publicity it's after.

It's on breakingnews.ie too BTW. BREAKING NEWS.

F*cking retards. I'm taking breakingnews.ie off my iGoogle now, absolute goons.

I haven't listened to the radio today, but I'll bet both my testicles that Newstalk is running this story also, just like when they spent weeks following that 'pay to use the toilet' idea -- and they also reported in their news bulletin when Ryanair were running a poll on their website looking for more creative ways to charge customers, etc.

Is there really nothing else to be reported in a 3 minute news bulletin?

Iron Hide

Fat tax still wont stop fat people being on the bloody plane. I'd fly anywhere, once i get a seat by the emergency exit, more room. If i dont get that, i'm ****ed.

Maybe O'leary should fly the planes himself?

ejmaztec

Red Storm wrote: »

Fat tax still wont stop fat people being on the bloody plane. I'd fly anywhere, once i get a seat by the emergency exit, more room. If i dont get that, i'm ****ed.

Maybe O'leary should fly the planes himself?

Funny you should mention that::eek:

http://www.hobby-lobby.com/dx7_dsm2_7-ch._radio_ar7000_rx_4-ds821_digital_servos_3765_prd1.htm

CantGetNoSleep

Ruu wrote: »

I'm all for the fat tax but it'll never go ahead.

It is in operation in America now, saw on some sh1t airport programme a person being charge as they we a PES (passenger of excessive size)

The way it worked was that they had to buy a second seat at check in, but the money would be refunded if there were any empty seats on the plane when it took off

goldenbrown

plan....treating customers like they paid money for the tickets and not treat them like sh1t as if they were doing them a favour though you will never fly with ryanair without parting with a good chunk of euros.. never... i hate this airline:)

zielarz

Sorry for a little off-topic but it's the best place to include my proposal for Mr Michael O'Leary. Please consider removal of security checks for Ryanair flights. Personally I hate that and I'm willing to take a little bit more risk and fly cheaper without them. There should be a choice of flights with or without security checks... If someone doesn't have balls then they can pay a little bit extra for a more secure flight.

partyatmygaff

zielarz wrote: »

Sorry for a little off-topic but it's the best place to include my proposal for Mr Michael O'Leary. Please consider removal of security checks for Ryanair flights. Personally I hate that and I'm willing to take a little bit more risk and fly cheaper without them. There should be a choice of flights with or without security checks... If someone doesn't have balls then they can pay a little bit extra for a more secure flight.

Basically your offering a hassle-free boeing 737 full of fuel and people to pretty much anything.


Not gonna happen...
Ever

ShooterSF

zielarz wrote: »

Sorry for a little off-topic but it's the best place to include my proposal for Mr Michael O'Leary. Please consider removal of security checks for Ryanair flights. Personally I hate that and I'm willing to take a little bit more risk and fly cheaper without them. There should be a choice of flights with or without security checks... If someone doesn't have balls then they can pay a little bit extra for a more secure flight.

I think like most airline owners Mr. O'Leary doesnt give a crap about your safety. He gives a crap about his multi-million euro plane not being crashed by terrorists and the price of his insurance premiums. :pac:

Iron Hide

zielarz wrote: »

Sorry for a little off-topic but it's the best place to include my proposal for Mr Michael O'Leary. Please consider removal of security checks for Ryanair flights. Personally I hate that and I'm willing to take a little bit more risk and fly cheaper without them. There should be a choice of flights with or without security checks... If someone doesn't have balls then they can pay a little bit extra for a more secure flight.

Pretty silly comment there mister... Come back to us when you've been on a plane with a bunch of terrorists

AdamusAdonis

O'Leary is the man.
He should be running the country.

UnderpantsGnome

Ryanair's next cost-cutting measure will be to introduce a great big catapult that will lauch you in the general direction of the city you wish to travel to.

A typical fare from Dublin to London will be just €5. Optional extras include a parachute (€129.99 for those under 90kg, €159.99 for those 90kg - 120kg).

Ryanair cannot guarantee you will land within 20 miles of your destination. What will also remain the same as current Ryanair travel, your baggage will cost approximately 5 times the cost of your hotel.

partyatmygaff

ShooterSF wrote: »

I think like most airline owners Mr. O'Leary doesnt give a crap about your safety. He gives a crap about his multi-million euro plane not being crashed by terrorists and the price of his insurance premiums. :pac:

With a man like O'Leary you could expect him to self-insure the planes and in case a plane overruns a runway or something he'll expect the passengers to pay up for the damages because they were too heavy or something

sdanseo

They should switch to electric engines and make people pedal to power the dynamos. If you stop you plumment into a mountain, that'll teach ya to complain!

Random

I'll pay to stand. I've stood for worse. A free / virtually free trip on a peak route .. no problem, let me stand. Beats those seats they have now anyway (which I will put up with if it means dirt cheap).

Stick to AL if you want "comfort".

ejmaztec

Red Storm wrote: »

Pretty silly comment there mister... Come back to us when you've been on a plane with a bunch of terrorists

He's only pissed off because they wouldn't let him take his RPG on as hand luggage.

Wazdakka

ejmaztec wrote: »

He's only pissed off because they wouldn't let him take his RPG on as hand luggage.

And rightly so...

I wouldn't want to fly on the same plane as some gimp playing dungeons and dragons.


gets coat and think he needs to stay away from ah for a few days

c4cat

ejmaztec wrote: »

It seems that every week, the god that is Michael O'Leary comes up with another odd-ball announcement.:D

There's a strong possibility that next week, passengers will be strapped to the wings, and also take turns flying the plane to reduce costs.

http://www.independent.ie/travel/travel-advice/ryanair-to-make-passengers-stand-1808116.html

Ryanair is considering proposals to make some of its customers stand during flights.
The low-cost airline would charge passengers less on "bar stools" with seat belts around their waists.
Michael O'Leary, the chief executive, has already held talks with US plane manufacturer Boeing about designing an aircraft with standing room.
He is now seeking approval from the Irish Aviation Authority before ordering a new fleet of carriers, according to The Sun.
A Ryanair spokesman told the newspaper: "If they approve it, we'll be doing it."
Mr O'Leary is reported to have got the idea from the Chinese airline Spring, which has put forward similar plans. It estimates space could be made for up to 50 per cent more passengers and costs could be cut by 20 per cent.
It is not the first time Ryanair has come up with a controversial proposal for cutting costs. Earlier this year Mr O'Leary suggested passengers could be charged £1 to use the on-board lavatories.
In an interview on BBC television he said that the low-cost airline was looking at the possibility of installing a coin slot on the lavatory door so that "people might actually have to spend a pound to spend a penny."
Mr O'Leary also considered introducing a "fat tax" for overweight passengers.
©Telegraph.co.uk
- Ben Leach

Do you think it will work, what about the takeoff weight of the aircraft with all those extra passengers with their carry on bags?

Iron Hide

c4cat wrote: »

Do you think it will work, what about the takeoff weight of the aircraft with all those extra passengers with their carry on bags?

Its Ryanair, course it'll work..

robbie_998

i think i know his next move to reduce costs

wanna fly for free sir ?..... sure

Great all you gotta do is run as fast as you can in the engine bay and the plane will do the rest :rolleyes:

Flying Abruptly

How will standing on a plane work for take-off, or even using a bar stool...never going to happen

ejmaztec

Ryanair testing facility:eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UDts6RY22U&NR=1