Why one forum for 4 seperate sports??

tennessee time

has this issue been raised before?? it seems very peculiar to have only one forum for four seperate sports which are hugely popular in ireland when you can dedicate seperate forums to sports like archery, frisbee and paintball which i can only assume (dont have my figures readily available) trail these sports considerably in popularity and participation??

Aidric

Lol @ a frisbee forum.

yahoo_moe

But there's no obvious overlap between people who are into archery and people who are into frisbee.

One GAA forum makes it far easier for the significant amount of posters here who are interested in both hurling and football. And from the lack of camogie/handball/rounders discussion here, I'd say they don't need their own forums.

tennessee time

what about the significant amount of posters here who are not interested in both but only one, and if the overlap argument is used then is there not an overlap between american sports on an irish based discussion forum?? or between greyhound racing and horse racing??

maybe fans of the other sports you mentioned simply go to other sites to discuss their sports- if thats the case then providing them with a forum of their own might attract more people to boards, is that not the point of discussion sites???

lack of discussion of these sports , can that not partly be explained by the lack of a seperate forum, hard to steer a handball discussion into a football dominated forum is it not??

tennessee time

surely a mod can answer this question??

Diabhal Beag

I don't think much people care really. I would say a good 80% of posters enjoy both codes and there is the occasional handball thread.

tennessee time

just seems weird on an IRISH message board when you have a forum for s**t like free running, rugby league etc that you lump such different sports like hurling and football into one forum, an attempt to marginalise irish sports perhaps ???? conspiracy time....

Diabhal Beag

tennessee time wrote: »

just seems weird on an IRISH message board when you have a forum for s**t like free running, rugby league etc that you lump such different sports like hurling and football into one forum, an attempt to marginalise irish sports perhaps ???? conspiracy time....

I know what ya mean. Frisbee and Baseball smells of 6 posts a month kinda forums. You could always put this in Feedback or Helpdesk in the Sys catogory

orestes

tennessee time wrote: »

just seems weird on an IRISH message board when you have a forum for s**t like free running, rugby league etc that you lump such different sports like hurling and football into one forum, an attempt to marginalise irish sports perhaps ???? conspiracy time....

Ask in the feedback forum (that's where things like this are supposed to go) but if that bit in blod is representative of your attitude and how you are going to go about making your point then I can't see it going well for you tbh

tennessee time

id say the original post is more representative of my attitude, but i guess it was harder for you to snipe at that post

peteg

is somebody afraid hurling and football are going to loss out to minor sports.its great to have forums for all other sports,our daily papers only talk about GAA and SOCCER.

smashey

We don't differentiate here. This is a single forum for all GAA fans no matter what their preference. As already pointed out, most people here have an interest in both hurling and football and there is a lot of crossover posting. I see no reason for it to change. What other froums there are in the sports category all have their own following and deserve to be there.

tennessee time

smashey wrote: »

We don't differentiate here. This is a single forum for all GAA fans no matter what their preference. As already pointed out, most people here have an interest in both hurling and football and there is a lot of crossover posting. I see no reason for it to change. What other froums there are in the sports category all have their own following and deserve to be there.

if by following you mean 3 people then you are correct, as the parkour free running has had about 10 replies total.

"we dont diferentiate here" - surely thats the problem/issue - you dont differentiate between 4 different sports (albeit hurling and camogie are related) - the thing is you should differentiate because they are different sports...

on the single forum issue i think youre missing the point, what about handball or camogie?? they have far more participants in ireland than baseball yet it has a seperate forum. if the crossover arguement is used then why not one forum for american sports like american football and baseball yet they both have a seperate forum.

why have a single forum for all irish sports on an irish forum when you give seperate forums to american sports ???,

smashey

tennessee time wrote: »

if by following you mean 3 people then you are correct, as the parkour free running has had about 10 replies total.

"we dont diferentiate here" - surely thats the problem/issue - you dont differentiate between 4 different sports (albeit hurling and camogie are related) - the thing is you should differentiate because they are different sports...

on the single forum issue i think youre missing the point, what about handball or camogie?? they have far more participants in ireland than baseball yet it has a seperate forum. if the crossover arguement is used then why not one forum for american sports like american football and baseball yet they both have a seperate forum.

why have a single forum for all irish sports on an irish forum when you give seperate forums to american sports ???,

Why not have a forum for League of Ireland separate from Soccer?

This forum works well as it is despite what you may think.

Diabhal Beag

Your really making a big deal out of nothing. You made the point as much as you can over here. Go to the helpdesk

tennessee time

smashey wrote: »

Why not have a forum for League of Ireland separate from Soccer?

This forum works well as it is despite what you may think.

Thats an awful stupid argument in fairness but diabheal bheag is right i dont particulary care that much and will just let it go.... was just wondering why and no1 gave me a good answer imo...





p.s league of ireland is still soccer , ie same sport , sorry couldnt resist

case closed......

Spiritoftheseventies

Why complicate things. GAA forum fine as it is.

Grudaire

Splitting the forum might be a good idea as to stop less popular threads (ie one's on handball) getting buried under an onslaught of football, hurling and referee threads.

An attempt has been made recently: http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=62111463#post62111463

I think it's a fair question, and posters are not giving it enough thought.

Pride Fighter

If someone with over 1,000 posts posted this I'd listen more. But some troll with 130 posts does not deserve to be listened to.

This thread should be locked.

Spiritoftheseventies

Cliste wrote: »

Splitting the forum might be a good idea as to stop less popular threads (ie one's on handball) getting buried under an onslaught of football, hurling and referee threads.

An attempt has been made recently: http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=62111463#post62111463

I think it's a fair question, and posters are not giving it enough thought.

Maybe so. Depends how much demand there is for it. Would have thought you would get more exposure within GAA thread as to outside of it.

Grudaire

bayviewclose wrote: »

Maybe so. Depends how much demand there is for it. Would have thought you would get more exposure within GAA thread as to outside of it.

That's where I assume the logic comes from - leave them all together means that more people are likely to see any one thread. It's a balance, if we split it up completely it could backfire, and forums get significantly less posts.

I started a All-Ireland Handball final thread because I didn't know one had been started already, so where a thread with potential for some posts gets driven down from the first page it tends not to do too well...

There is a potential for a handball subforum, as it is clearly not as popular, and threads can mature slower where they have room to breath, however the Football and Hurling have struck a nice balance in the main forum

Spiritoftheseventies

Cliste wrote: »

That's where I assume the logic comes from - leave them all together means that more people are likely to see any one thread. It's a balance, if we split it up completely it could backfire, and forums get significantly less posts.

I started a All-Ireland Handball final thread because I didn't know one had been started already, so where a thread with potential for some posts gets driven down from the first page it tends not to do too well...

There is a potential for a handball subforum, as it is clearly not as popular, and threads can mature slower where they have room to breath, however the Football and Hurling have struck a nice balance in the main forum

Would assume Handball is popular in lots of counties particularly Kilkenny,Cork and Cavan. What was feedback back on All Ireland thread like?

Grudaire

bayviewclose wrote: »

Would assume Handball is popular in lots of counties particularly Kilkenny,Cork and Cavan. What was feedback back on All Ireland thread like?

Got three pages in the end - a lot of people have played the game, and the few threads like this are a chance to have a quick look at the sport.

All Ireland Final thread

There was a chance for a all Ireland doubles final thread that I was too lazy to hop on! There's plenty going on in the handball world - especially right now - for anyone who was paying attention, the Irish Team to the World Championships were introduced to Croke Park at half time today.

Nalced_irl

yahoo_moe wrote: »

But there's no obvious overlap between people who are into archery and people who are into frisbee.

One GAA forum makes it far easier for the significant amount of posters here who are interested in both hurling and football. And from the lack of camogie/handball/rounders discussion here, I'd say they don't need their own forums.

Agreed. Most GAA fans enjoy following all games so its better to have the one forum. If we split it, it just means most of us will have to flick between them. Also, a good few topics brought up cover things about Counties or County Boards which would include both so could be a pain.

yahoo_moe

tennessee time wrote: »

no1 gave me a good answer imo...

Well that's because you've made it clear at this stage that you weren't really asking a question. You were just stating your opinion and expecting everyone to agree with you - but sorry, that's not how it works.

Cliste wrote:

I think it's a fair question, and posters are not giving it enough thought.

In fairness, the OP's got replies from several of us explaining our reasoning. On the other hand, (s)he is just reiterating the same point about American sports having individual forums.

Grudaire

Another reason why handball should have their own forum:

Nalced_irl wrote: »

Agreed. Most GAA fans enjoy following all games so its better to have the one forum. If we split it, it just means most of us will have to flick between them. Also, a good few topics brought up cover things about Counties or County Boards which would include both so could be a pain.

Handball has it's own county boards which report to the Irish Handball Council.. The entire structure is separate, heck at times the IHC (Irish Handball Council) and the Ard Comhairle are in outright dispute. Handballer's may remember the fiasco with the Ceannaras handball centre.

To be fair Nalced, there are entire forums dedicated to the GAA, I think that we could survive having more than one here! However I don't think that it would suit to split it entirely. I think the current set-up is doing well for football and hurling purposes - but trying it differently for handball may work quite well...

Grudaire

yahoo_moe wrote: »

In fairness, the OP's got replies from several of us explaining our reasoning. On the other hand, (s)he is just reiterating the same point about American sports having individual forums.

Grand, allow me to grab the torch off the OP, before he lets the flame die out!

To be honest I'm not sure why the OP is arguing so much about it, it is clear that the system works - and quite well at that *nods at the large crowd of regular posters who are curiously looking at this thread* - I'm making the point that there may (possibly) be a market for a handball section. And before you say we're all happy, look at the handball request - a small enough number of people replied - and from those likely to post in a handball thread - they were all very much in favour...

aDeener

leave things as it is, its fine. some people just aren't happy unless they are complaining :rolleyes: the forum is buzzing which it wouldnt be if the 4 gaa sports were seperated.

Grudaire

aDeener wrote: »

leave things as it is, its fine. some people just aren't happy unless they are complaining :rolleyes: the forum is buzzing which it wouldnt be if the 4 gaa sports were seperated.

This isn't complaining - this is an attempt to make things better - it's not as if the forum will lose many threads if Handball goes separate - but handball stands to gain far more.

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Carawaystick

Is it not 5 sports, one alley and 4 field games?
Handball, Hurling, Football, Camogie and Ladies Football?

Daysha

I can see where you're coming from Cliste. It might be worth posting about it over in the forum suggestion place, explain your reasoning behind it and see what kind of feedback you get from it.

I wouldn't be holding your breath about it or anything, the only time I've seen new forums or subforums created is when there's an overwhelming demand for one, but it can't hurt to ask.

tennessee time

Pride Fighter wrote: »

If someone with over 1,000 posts posted this I'd listen more. But some troll with 130 posts does not deserve to be listened to.

This thread should be locked.

so anyone without a 1000 posts should just f**k off is that right??? what kind of elitist sh*t is that?

smashey

Enough already. As far as I'm concerned, we have a great forum here that keeps all GAA followers happy without the need for splitting it. tennessee time, if you wish to pursue this, you can do so in the forum's forum.

Locked.