Santry race track?

walshb

I want to know if you can simply arrive at Santry and run or do you have to pay
to use the track, if so, what are the times and days

Thanks

scottreynolds

walshb wrote: »

I want to know if you can simply arrive at Santry and run or do you have to pay
to use the track, if so, what are the times and days

Thanks

And where is it? ...... I'm looking for a track close to Portmarnock to se for some intervals training

jinka

Hi Scotty

Forget Santry and go across the road to alsaa and warm up on the pitches. Then jump on the track. I have never once been asked if I was a member. Better still there are some great tarmac loops in Malahide park near the tennis courts.

scottreynolds

jinka wrote: »

.......Better still there are some great tarmac loops in Malahide park near the tennis courts.

Thanks I'm just back from a run into the Castle so thats a great idea. The park is about 2 miles from home so a good warm p

ecoli

walshb wrote: »

I want to know if you can simply arrive at Santry and run or do you have to pay
to use the track, if so, what are the times and days

Thanks

If you looking to just do a run i would say you better off sticking to grass better for your joints in the long run

jinka

Dunno about the grass.... Mite be better to stay on something level. Latest evidence says its actually worse to run on grass in terms of muscle and joint aches. The small loop near the tennis court is about 750mt.So not far of half mile.

Cadex

@Scott
There is a map of the Santry Stadium area on the www.clonliffeharriers.com website - it's on the Swords Road. During the week, there will be various clubs using the track at set times (e.g. Clonliffe would be 19:00-20:00 on Tuesdays and Thursdays and 11-12:00 on Saturday and Sundays). Fingallians also use it officially I believe an hour before the Clonliffe folks. If you don't interfere with them, you're fine. Also the clubs would use Santry Demesne (public park) which backs onto the stadium and offers some lovely routes to train and has been used for national cross-country championships. The ALSAA spot is good too, I've used both but as a member of Clonliffe would be more familiar with Santry.

walshb

ecoli wrote: »

If you looking to just do a run i would say you better off sticking to grass better for your joints in the long run

No, I want to officially do times for certain distances and the track would be ideal, as it's a set distance.

aburke

walshb wrote: »

No, I want to officially do times for certain distances and the track would be ideal, as it's a set distance.

Well if you official times, you'll need an official timer...

hurdler2009

Slightly off topic but I stumbled across this earlier and was unaware that it was even in the pipeline but the track in Santry is to be relaid in the autumn! I think that it may have been a better idea to invest the money in a proper indoor facility but I suppose we shouldn't complain about any money being invested in athletics! All in all, I think it will be a welcome improvement as the track had began to feel a bit flat!

Quote from Clonliffe Harriers site:

PUBLIC CONFIRMATION OF NEW TRACK FOR MORTON
Jun 28, 2009 [Noel Guiden]
Clonliffe club members will have been aware for some time of plans for the refurbishment of the Morton Stadium. The Club`s Committee have being working hard at Morton Stadium Management Committee level for the past two years to try and ensure that this happens, however, with the current economic situation there were never any guarentees, only promises. So the article appearing in Friday`s Evening Hearld (June 26th) quoting Mr. Senan Turnbull, Director of Community Services Fingal County Council; "It will be done to an international standard. Hopefully by the end of September we`ll have a brand new spanking track and we`ll get another 10-12 years out of that.We were lucky enough to get a grant last year and we hope to begin work in August or September" is the first public affirmation of a new track for the Morton Stadium and is indeed most welcome. Watch this space for updates.

thirtyfoot

To the OP.

Santry is usually very busy on Saturday and Sunday mornings. Its also busy on Tue and Thurs evening. Mon and Wednesady will have people around but not as busy and Friday fairly quite. Officially you probably should not be on the track but I'm not sure of the rules etc if you aren't a member of a club. ALSAA is just up the road and is probably a better bet as you are far less likely to get ripped out of it by a group of athletes flying around doing their reps.

aero2k

jinka wrote: »

Latest evidence says its actually worse to run on grass in terms of muscle and joint aches.

Can you elaborate on this? I do most of my running on grass or trails.
I have heard loads of people saying they find track running very hard on the legs, but I guess you can't avoid it if you're looking to do times for particular distances.
OP sorry for the hijack.
aero2k

Stark

Your legs need to adapt to running on hard surfaces. No point doing all your training on grass and then trying to race on the track.

thirtyfoot

aero2k wrote: »

Can you elaborate on this? I do most of my running on grass or trails.

You are grand, keep doing your running on grass as opposed to a track. A track is fairly unforgiving to be honest and when guys are injured will usually use grass as a surface to ease themselves back in (especially if injury was caused by running on the track or road). More fun too.

ecoli

Stark wrote: »

Your legs need to adapt to running on hard surfaces. No point doing all your training on grass and then trying to race on the track.

Your legs need to avoid track and road as much as possible as the impact of hard surfaces on a consistent basis can lead to injury. Many scientific evidence and coaches advocate 70-80% training on softer surfaces.
However i would like to read this new evidence? any links?

Stark

http://jap.physiology.org/cgi/content/abstract/59/3/710
http://www.springerlink.com/content/w435k06565027720/
http://www.labmeeting.com/paper/17576452/byrnes-1985-delayed-onset-muscle-soreness-following-repeated-bouts-of-downhill-running
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1332286
http://www.sportsmed.info/articles/doms.html
http://www.gssiweb.com/Article_Detail.aspx?articleid=725&level=3&topic=10

A lot of them relate to downhill running but it's a similar principle of muscle damage due to eccentric contractions on impact with the ground. The general consensus is you do damage first time round, but your muscles adapt and you're protected from future soreness.

Anecdotally I know plenty of people who have tried to run road races after doing all their training on grass and ended up dropping out or seriously struggling due to their legs seizing up from racing on the harder surface. They didn't have the same problem when they did a few training sessions on road beforehand.

(I do all my training off-road personally, but then I'm useless when it comes to road races vs off-road races).

thirtyfoot

Stark wrote: »

http://jap.physiology.org/cgi/content/abstract/59/3/710
http://www.springerlink.com/content/w435k06565027720/
http://www.labmeeting.com/paper/17576452/byrnes-1985-delayed-onset-muscle-soreness-following-repeated-bouts-of-downhill-running
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1332286
http://www.sportsmed.info/articles/doms.html
http://www.gssiweb.com/Article_Detail.aspx?articleid=725&level=3&topic=10

A lot of them relate to downhill running but it's a similar principle of muscle damage due to eccentric contractions on impact with the ground. The general consensus is you do damage first time round, but your muscles adapt and you're protected from future soreness.

Anecdotally I know plenty of people who have tried to run road races after doing all their training on grass and ended up dropping out or seriously struggling due to their legs seizing up from racing on the harder surface. They didn't have the same problem when they did a few training sessions on road beforehand.

(I do all my training off-road personally, but then I'm useless when it comes to road races vs off-road races).

4 of those studies relate to downhill running and the other 2 relate to DOMS. I can't see anything there that says running on grass is worse for your joints and muscles etc that jinka pointed out. Running downhill is a very different animal as your mechanics are so different to normal no matter the surface is and thats obvious to everyone I'd say. I'd say grass is very safe and the safest surface. Obviously if you run on the same small circuit on grass each time with a slope allround which throws you off-centre etc but most people running on grass will be running a varied route from session to session. Science may contradict this and I'd be interested to read this.

Training solely on grass and then racing on road is a different matter.

Science may contradict me but I can't find an article

Stark

Tingle wrote:

Training solely on grass and then racing on road is a different matter.

Well that's what I meant. Like I said, I do most of my training on grass/other off-road surfaces but I usually feel the pain if I do a road race, which is something I didn't experience when I trained on a mixture of grass/road.

Edit: I missed jinga's post previously. No, I don't agree with that. Personally I've found that adding uneven surfaces to my training has made me far more resilient to injury compared to when I used to run exclusively on even surfaces (whether they be footpath or manicured GAA pitch).

RealistSpy

How do you get to the stadium form Tallagaht, Square or City Center?

ecoli

RealistSpy wrote: »

How do you get to the stadium form Tallagaht, Square or City Center?

Handiest way if you driving from tallaght is out on the M50 and take turn off For Ballymun

RealistSpy

ecoli wrote: »

Handiest way if you driving from tallaght is out on the M50 and take turn off For Ballymun

Won,t be driving no car.

ecoli

RealistSpy wrote: »

Won,t be driving no car.

In that case i would say luas into town and the 14(i think) 27 and i think there another bus that goes by there but i cant remeber hope this helps

meathcountysec

ecoli wrote: »

In that case i would say luas into town and the 14(i think) 27 and i think there another bus that goes by there but i cant remeber hope this helps

16a goes right past stadium.

RealistSpy

Thanks guys I will get a bus from carlow to D.city centre the get 16a. Does it stop beside the stadium and what area is the 16a bus stop

meathcountysec

RealistSpy wrote: »

Thanks guys I will get a bus from carlow to D.city centre the get 16a. Does it stop beside the stadium and what area is the 16a bus stop

As far as I remember the bus from city centre stops just past the stadium. Ask the bus driver to let you out at the nearest stop. Returning the stop is back towards city centre.